Thanks for the starting the thread, Rugs.

The ratings don't matter one bit to me as far as AMC. I am enjoying the show for the first time since - well it has been so long I forgot. That is all that matters to me. ITAAnd the writing is better. Stunts always bring in a few viewers that don't stick. It even brings in viewers these days who quit their regular show just to check out the stunt. They never stay.

I know of many people who are back and I know many people on many different boards who are loving AMC again. In fact just about the only people that I know who are not liking AMC right now are the couple fan bases. It is the same people who are not liking Days right now too for the most part. I hear more general fans who are in love with Days and AMC right now.

AMC for the first time in a long time is not about just one couple and is not just about 6 or 7 people. It is more like old Agnes Nixon AMC than it has been in a long time. ITA

Ratings don't go up overnight - that just don't happen anymore. And ratings are never a clarification of quality. The truth for AMC will come in the coming months not by this stunt.

Just like the last few weeks have finally seen a rise for OLTL. Good consistent writing pays off in the long run and not in the short term. You don't alienate the fans of a show and expect them to come back and trust you overnight. That takes time. They have to learn to trust again.

I enjoy AMC I like their stories and the acting is excellent...I don't get it either. As for GH I don't like most of their stories I only watch for Robin/Emma, Luke/Laura and Elizabeth right now..since Alexis isn't on the screen much...I like Jax, Nik but for the most part their stories are repetitive for me this sweep. I find it boring even the car scene with LnL was reminiscent of the Hangman's bridge scene with Diego.

I peruse this site periodically and was curious. Do the ratings posted here include DVR numbers? Also, which numbers do advertisers really care about, those that include or don't include the DVR watchers?

^Ad's dont care about DVR.

live viewers, and most only care about the woman 18-49 demo.

I peruse this site periodically and was curious. Do the ratings posted here include DVR numbers? Also, which numbers do advertisers really care about, those that include or don't include the DVR watchers?

The ratings posted here include Live and Same Day so it does include DVR ratings if you watch it within a day (which I believe is 24 hours from original air time when it was DVRed). The ratings the advertisers care about are the "key demos" Ages 18-49 or even better 18-34 (they prefer a younger audience).

HH for week of 10/27

1. Y&R 3.4 (-.3)

2. B&B 2.5 (-.2)

3. GH 2.2 (+.1)

4. AMC 2.0 (-.1)

4. DAYS 2.0 (same)

4. OLTL 2.0 (same)

7. ATWT 1.8 (-.3)

8. GL 1.5 (-.1)

Edited November 7, 200817 yr by Lskreet

Wow CBS took a big hit.

HH for week of 10/27

1. Y&R 3.4 (-.3)

2. B&B 2.5 (-.2)

3. GH 2.2 (+.1)

4. AMC 2.0 (-.1)

4. DAYS 2.0 (same)

4. OLTL 2.0 (same)

7. ATWT 1.8 (-.3)

8. GL 1.5 (-.1)

Are these the correct?

Thanks for the starting the thread, Rugs.

NP, Toups

Are these the correct?

Yes, back in the day Lsk would post them early (comparitively) regularly and I believe they were always correct. Thanks Lsk.

Yes, they are correct. I don't post them as often as I used to but my numbers are always the same as Toups.

Thanks Lskreet

Sara Bibel talked about the dvr inclusion in her blog

Maybe viewers aren’t abandoning soaps. They’re just changing the way that they watch them. I got my hands on some Live +7 ratings for the first four weeks of the TV season. These are ratings that include DVR users who watched episodes within a week of the broadcast airing. The upshot? Almost every soap’s W18-49 ratings increase by double digits in the key Women 18-49 demographic. The most DVRd soap is the young-skewing Days of Our Lives which rises a whopping 27%. The second most “improved” show is The Young & The Restless which grows by 25%. Overall, soaps ratings are 19% higher when DVR viewing is included. To put this in perspective, this more than compensates for Y&R STD -16% drop in W18-49 and makes DOOL, the only soap to maintain last year’s W18-49 average, numbers far more impressive. Interestingly, General Hospital (+22%) and All My Children (+20%) are heavily DVRd, while One Life To Live (+10%) only outperforms Guiding Light (+9%). That could indicate that a significant number of OLTL viewers are primarily AMC and GH viewers who just watch OLTL because it airs between them. This low number is especially surprising since OLTL consistently outperforms AMC. Maybe OLTL appeals to neo-luddites.

Yes, they are correct. I don't post them as often as I used to but my numbers are always the same as Toups.

Thanks!

What are 'neo-luddites'?

From Wikipedia:

"The Luddites were a social movement of British textile artisans in the early nineteenth century who protested—often by destroying mechanized looms—against the changes produced by the Industrial Revolution, which they felt threatened their livelihood."

IOW, people stuck in the past who resisted change.

Edited November 7, 200817 yr by marceline

^^Ohhhh ok - thanks for the info! Haha, sounds like Bibel is kinda dissing on OLTL!