Oh my goodness, I must have been on DRUGS during this! I remember Cameron (especially all the "where's the body" fun) with fondness. Until you wrote this, I TOTALLY forgot that there was a Grace Turner angle. 2004, huh? I wonder what on earth I was doing then? (I'm thinking that I SO SO SO hated Brittany Hodges that I might have been trying to avoid any hint of her during this period).

Anyway, this whole thing proves that Y&R was moving in a -- ahem -- "different" direction looooooooooooooong before LML :-). 'Cause the murder of Frank could WELL have been a LML-era storyline too.

I love the name "VictorJrAngelBoy" . I take it we have an Adam fan here . I keep thinking he'll turn out to be decent in the end.

Lol I have faith in my boy. I don't want him to be a goody two shoes but I think deep down that he's just an injured boy who needs real love. His mom was the only one who gave it to him and now that she's gone he's totally lost.

Heather is just blah to me. I hope he doesn't end up with her. Lily could be interesting. Or Colleen (Either AL or TS work for me).

God almighty. Nelson's so right about recasting those girls.

I'm super pissed if Lily will be kidnapped. WTF? The victim role again? I was really hoping when she proclaimed that since she'd been trampled on the entire year, she'd actually grow a pair, that Christel would at least TRY to play the BEYOTCH and not some fancy-schmancy, boring socialite anymore. Alas, she won't. And to link Billy to THAT charade. Mon Dieu. Give the man to Victoria, first. (At least before he'll inevitably end up with Chloe.

Love Nikki to death right now. Also, love how all of the characters have been cunning recently. I think that was a major problem under LML. Everyone was a complete moron.

Finally, Jack and Adam and Sharon are delicious. Tuesday's episode had me salivating. And Sharon hadn't suddenly been pissed with Jack. This has been building since the Sabrina article. she specifically told him no more lying then. But all these little things built up. When Jack went to Mexico, Phyllis lay that sheet of suspicion and insecurity down about his whereabouts, the credit card company called about the Motel charge, then seeing Adam yell at Jack for being a snake and Jeffrey whispering about the deal. It's all slowly been adding up for Sharon. She didn't say nothing over the last couple of months because, as she said, she wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. I hope this is enough. I'm sick of Jack whining to Sharon about how important she is to him. My God, if she was, you'd respect her enough to not lie to her. Bastard. I hate Jack. God damn him!!

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I guess I'm in the minority in saying I love the Victor storyline. And I love that I actually hate Heather. She's not a pit-bull in my book. She's a friggin pest. But I love that the character's gotten this reaction out of me rather than the actress, which is more than I can say for other actresses on the show. I hope she continues to be a thorn on the Newman's side because it lends the show an air of realism and culpability.

Y&R got me thinking how strange it is that I do root for the wealthy snobs who make up this show. In general, I'd always side with Heather for stopping them for getting away with whatever they want because of their money. But not in this case. It's a strange feeling to feel for rich people.

God almighty. Nelson's so right about recasting those girls.

Love Nikki to death right now. Also, love how all of the characters have been cunning recently. I think that was a major problem under LML. Everyone was a complete moron.

I agree

Finally, Jack and Adam and Sharon are delicious. Tuesday's episode had me salivating. And Sharon hadn't suddenly been pissed with Jack. This has been building since the Sabrina article. she specifically told him no more lying then. But all these little things built up. When Jack went to Mexico, Phyllis lay that sheet of suspicion and insecurity down about his whereabouts, the credit card company called about the Motel charge, then seeing Adam yell at Jack for being a snake and Jeffrey whispering about the deal. It's all slowly been adding up for Sharon. She didn't say nothing over the last couple of months because, as she said, she wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. I hope this is enough. I'm sick of Jack whining to Sharon about how important she is to him. My God, if she was, you'd respect her enough to not lie to her. Bastard. I hate Jack. God damn him!!

Actually, hasn't this been building since the Senate race? I remember Sharon being disgusted with him even then.

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I guess I'm in the minority in saying I love the Victor storyline. And I love that I actually hate Heather. She's not a pit-bull in my book. She's a friggin pest. But I love that the character's gotten this reaction out of me rather than the actress, which is more than I can say for other actresses on the show. I hope she continues to be a thorn on the Newman's side because it lends the show an air of realism and culpability.

A few of us like the Victor story. I haven't seen him this vulnerable ever...and that is also interesting. He's not "weak" vulnerable, he is build-a-wall vulnerable...and that is totally in character. I agree about Heather, too. She makes me want to throw my shoes at the TV...and that's not a bad thing! Sanctimonious, holier-than-though b*tches can be AMAZING soap villainesses (from an older generation, think of Enid Nelson from All My Children). I view this as a terrific writing choice. The actress is not superb, but I feel she will strengthen and strengthen. Let's put it this way...there are some MUCH weaker actresses currently on the canvas!

Y&R got me thinking how strange it is that I do root for the wealthy snobs who make up this show. In general, I'd always side with Heather for stopping them for getting away with whatever they want because of their money. But not in this case. It's a strange feeling to feel for rich people.

I thought the same thing yesterday. I WANT these spoiled Newmans to get the better of law enforcement. What I don't know is WHY. It's not like they're nice people . It's just that law enforcement is SO ridiculous on this case!

Love Nikki to death right now. Also, love how all of the characters have been cunning recently. I think that was a major problem under LML. Everyone was a complete moron.

Y&R got me thinking how strange it is that I do root for the wealthy snobs who make up this show. In general, I'd always side with Heather for stopping them for getting away with whatever they want because of their money. But not in this case. It's a strange feeling to feel for rich people.

That was the BIG issue I had with LML, everyone was so f**king stupid and sincere and just...agenda driven. It was bullsh*t.

And I have ALWAYS been on the side of the rich, every soap, every time. The lone exception was Bobbie Spencer on GH, but then she was aspiring to wealth...I don't know what it is about soaps, Y&R in particular, but regardless of how good people are...if they're rich...I give them a pass.

Does that make me a terrible person?

I enjoyed today's CDN Halloween episode very much. The party scenes were actually not lame.

ETA: Nia Peebles gives an incredibly poignant performance tomorrow as well.

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I enjoyed today's CDN Halloween episode very much. The party scenes were actually not lame.

ETA: Nia Peebles gives an incredibly poignant performance tomorrow as well.

Today wa such fun. Phyllis-Nick-Sharon, Jill-Kay-Amber...all brought the comedy.

Meanwhile, Marge-Murph were surprisingly interesting (I'm wondering if Murph might be the start of a long-term romance for Kay...a "rich woman, poor man" story). I like the Sharon-Brad scenes too...I find they DO have a chemistry.

The young-set tomorrow looks like fun.

I agree

Actually, hasn't this been building since the Senate race? I remember Sharon being disgusted with him even then.

A few of us like the Victor story. I haven't seen him this vulnerable ever...and that is also interesting. He's not "weak" vulnerable, he is build-a-wall vulnerable...and that is totally in character. I agree about Heather, too. She makes me want to throw my shoes at the TV...and that's not a bad thing! Sanctimonious, holier-than-though b*tches can be AMAZING soap villainesses (from an older generation, think of Enid Nelson from All My Children). I view this as a terrific writing choice. The actress is not superb, but I feel she will strengthen and strengthen. Let's put it this way...there are some MUCH weaker actresses currently on the canvas!

I thought the same thing yesterday. I WANT these spoiled Newmans to get the better of law enforcement. What I don't know is WHY. It's not like they're nice people . It's just that law enforcement is SO ridiculous on this case!

That Senate race fiasco was in 2007, yes? I've blocked that year completely from my mind so I can't remember any subtle remarks or brief exchanges during that period. Sorta like LML slipped me some ruffies and I woke up December 2007...

Oh man, totally GET that building the wall/vulnerability side of Victor! So awesomely written. Also, sanctimonious is great. But I always have to remember that Heather's actions are a lot more base than that since she does hate the Newmans for how they mistreated Adam. The writers tend to go with her "Law enforcement will rectify all" angle for those scenes, which is a shame because vengeance is always fun to watch on soaps. So, if they could blend that in, I'd enjoy it all the more... not that I'm not loving it now LOL.

But, yeah, Vail's a great bitch that definitely needs time to mold her craft. She ain't there yet.

That was the BIG issue I had with LML, everyone was so f**king stupid and sincere and just...agenda driven. It was bullsh*t.

And I have ALWAYS been on the side of the rich, every soap, every time. The lone exception was Bobbie Spencer on GH, but then she was aspiring to wealth...I don't know what it is about soaps, Y&R in particular, but regardless of how good people are...if they're rich...I give them a pass.

Does that make me a terrible person?

OMG, I got so pissed at the VILE Jenny Humphrey on Gossip Girl last season because she did all these desperate things to become popular (Bobbie's equivalent, I suppose). Meanwhile, I'm jonesing for the ever-popular Blair and her more devious machinations to destroy Jenny. So, I totally don't think you're a terrible person LOL.

OMG, I got so pissed at the VILE Jenny Humphrey on Gossip Girl last season because she did all these desperate things to become popular (Bobbie's equivalent, I suppose). Meanwhile, I'm jonesing for the ever-popular Blair and her more devious machinations to destroy Jenny. So, I totally don't think you're a terrible person LOL.

Let's not lower Bobbie Spencer by comparing her to Jenny Humphrey of Gossip Girl...Bobbie was never desperate, she saw what she wanted and she went right ahead and got it.

But yeah, I am always on the side of the rich, powerful and devious...usually because they have a sense of humor and are nobody's fool!

So there, we are not terrible people.

But, yeah, Vail's a great bitch that definitely needs time to mold her craft. She ain't there yet.

Vail has definitely improved but I liked her much better when she was working at Jabot.

I enjoyed today's CDN Halloween episode very much. The party scenes were actually not lame.

I enjoyed the episode too. Billy's line to Chloe and Amber's line to Colleen were funny. LOL

Sabrina's shadow and baby rattle freaked me out. It reminded me a bit of that creepy scene when Nikki was having a nightmare of Sabrina back in August.

ETA: Nia Peebles gives an incredibly poignant performance tomorrow as well.

Yeah, she was good. Great scenes with Karen and Neil.

I also liked Eden and Noah's scenes. I'm starting to like this young couple in the making. Can't wait to see them in Paris.

Or Colleen (Either AL or TS work for me).

Finally! Someone who doesn't hate TS!

But that is in total keeping with the Character. Sharon can't be single and shopping it around, she has to have that hubby to fall back on while Sharinitwitheveryone.

FLOVE that nickname for Sharon!

Is anyone else having trouble viewing the Y&R webpage on CBS?

I have no problems reading the recaps on the other CBS soaps yet Y&R's is just blank...

FLOVE that nickname for Sharon!

I've patented Sharinitwitheveryone, so no one else can use it but me. JK.

Tammin Sursok's accent really came out during those scenes with Amber. Why can't they just hire an American actress to play Colleen?