Jump to content

Rituals


smadleyb

Recommended Posts

  • Members

It does have a low budget cable look to it. The acting is pretty bad. I will say the house in the closing credits is beautiful. Like a rip off of Southfork from Dallas. I noticed the episode was directed by Edward Mallory (I assume the same that played Bill Horton on Days).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 4 weeks later...
  • Replies 231
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

  • Members

Upthread I noted that I read the entire history on an SOD Tumblr and enjoyed it.  However, these promos are not doing it for me.  You know a show is bad when you feel the urge to FF at 30 second video.  It seems like Rituals was much better on paper than in production.

And, all that fur... 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...
  • 1 year later...
  • Members

@NadineC Thanks for sharing that. I think the clip may end with Clay Travis, not Jeff Robertson, breaking into the Willows. I may be wrong. Michael Weldon and Tim Maier do have a similar look. 

I believe this episode would be probably around 110-119 from February, 1985. This seems to be approaching the end of the show´s first batch of episodes ending with Eddie´s murder. 

It was nice to see Tina Louise´s Taylor. Taylor mentioned she was going to see Logan so I am curious if Lazenby was still around or if he was just on canvas, but the actor have left already. 

@Paul Raven I think there were only three sets of headwriters.

1) Gene Palumbo wrote the show from September, 1984 - February / March 1985. He is credited in the February 28, 1985, episode #124, available on YouTube.  

2) Ray Goldstone wrote the show from March, 1985 until early summer 1985. Goldstone is listed as the lead writer in the episode #141 credits on YouTube. He was also announced in Soap Opera Digest as succeeding Palumbo

3) Stacey Anderson and Steve Burkow early summer until September, 1985. 

The development of the show had many writers attached as you can see in the credits. Keel wrote the novel. Someone developed the original pilot from the book. I also have a couple pages of a second bible for ¨Rituals¨ which seems to be the first attempt to transition from the original faithful adaption to the more traditional soap opera with Keel´s characters receiving new names and slightly altered backstories. I don´t know who developed what other than I can speculate that the bible pages I had were reworked by Gene Palumbo into what ended up airing on screen because there are definite predecessors to the on-air ¨Rituals¨ characters in the few pages I have. 

Here is my source for Stacey Anderson and Steve Burkow´s work. It is Mary Ann Cooper´s Speaking of Soaps Column that appeared in papers the first week of June, 1985

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-dothan-progress-rituals-new-writers/130508521/

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Only from the clips online, but the shift from Gene Palumbo to Raymond Goldstone is pretty big. Out are a lot of the original older players (Logan, Taylor, and maybe someone else I´m forgetting) and some younger ones (Marissa and Clay) to be replaced by C.J. Field. The C.J. and Carter feud that takes up a good chunk of the second half occurs at that point. I believe it is Palumbo who brings on Lucky Washington (Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs) and pairs him with reformed spoiled princess Julia Field. I don´t know exactly when Burkow and Anderson start but there definitely seems to be a bit more social relevance or attempt to present real world issues with the radiation leak (a year before Chernobyl) and the surrogacy plot. I don´t know who wrote the white supremacist plot. 

Off the top of my head.. .

1) ¨Search for Tomorrow" 1985 had Jeanne Glynn & Carolyn Franz, a brief Jeanne Glynn solo period (a few weeks), Stephanie Braxton & Paul Avila Mayer, and Gary Tomlin 

2) In 2000, ¨Port Charles" had Scott Hammer, an interim period with no head writer, Karen Harris & Jonathan Estrin, Karen Harris solo, Karen Harris & Barbara Bloom, and James Harmon Brown & Barbara Essensten. 

3) From February  1991- February 1992, ¨Loving" had Tom King & Millee Taggert, Millee Taggert solo, Mary Ryan Munisteri, and Addie Walsh. 

4) In 1991-1992 on ¨General Hospital," you had Norma Monty, Monty with Linda Grover, Noma Monty solo (again), interim writers, Maralyn Thoma, Maralyn Thoma & Bill Levinson, and then Bill Levinson solo. 

5) In 1988, ¨Another World" would have had Margaret Depriest, Sheri Anderson, strike writers, Harding Lemay, and Donna Swajeski. 

6) ¨How To Survive a Marriage¨ had Anne Howard Bailey, Rick Edelstein, and Margaret Depriest in a single year I believe. 

7) It´s not well documented, but I do think that ¨The Catlins¨ had about three or so headwriting teams in 1984. I believe Steve Lehrman started the year, Maura Swanson and Robin Grunder at some point, and I believe somone else. I´ll edit this later. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

@dc11786 Thanks for compiling that list. Obviously sometimes there are circumstances beyond anyone's control that lead to a change and some of those writers were interim or additional but most of those shows listed certainly didn't benefit from all of the changes.

Some of those writers barely got a chance to implement their ideas.

Finding a writer with the right vision that meshes with EP and network mandates must be very difficult.

It would be great if some writers spoke about all the BTS stuff that goes on and how decisions are made.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Recent Posts

    • Actually that is not what happened. Nor is the timing right for it to have been. We learned from a WOST interview with Pete Lemay  in 2006, which can be found on YT, that it was Fred Silverman's idea to do the 90 minute show. I don't know how much you know about him but he had these amazing successes as head of daytime at both ABC & at CBS. Then he came to NBC where basically everything he touched turned NOT TO GOLD but to shite. Some of the most expensive shows ever produced up to that time were huge flops. Although even he, like a broken clock, could be right on occasion. However, as we know, he was not right about the 90 minute show. As a matter of fact, afterward,  NBC programmers, who worked FOR him, were asked why they did it & they were quoted as saying it was because they couldn't think of anything else to try. It was a stupid idea from a man who had reached the point where he was throwing anything at the wall to see if it would stick.
    • Tamara Tunie at Baltimore event May 10, 2025 https://www.lewismuseum.org/event/a-lewis-table-talk-with-tamara-tunie/ https://www.instagram.com/p/DJH0ZQayihs/ Reginald F. Lewis Museum of Maryland African American History & Culture, Baltimore lewismuseum

      Please register in order to view this content

      Clear your calendar for the Lewis Museum's post gala celebration! On Saturday, May 10 at 2pm, we're bringing the elegance, wisdom, and brilliance of Tamara Tunie to The Lewis! From her powerful performances throughout her career, to her bold new project “Beyond the Gates,” this is your chance to hear it all—up close and personal. Hosted by the always fabulous media personality LaDawn Black, this conversation will be real, inspiring, and unforgettable. Kick off your Mother's Day weekend and come on down to The Lewis. Come ready to be moved, motivated, and in great company! Saturday, May 10 2:00-4:00pm Reginald F. Lewis Museum Register today by visiting the link in our bio! #thereginaldflewismuseum #lewismuseum #thelewis #beyondthegates #tamaratunie #lawandordersvu                            
    • I stopped watching Another World in 1990. Simply, lost interest in the show.  I had watched the show from 1973 to 1990. The 90 minute show started the decline of AW.  NBC panicked with expanding AW due to the GH hoopla. As mentioned above, 1982 was a trainwreck for AW.  The introduction of the Shea family, the movie storyline involving Jamie, and Steve Frame favoring Rachel over Alice. The writers went into that direction due to the forgettable performance of Linda Borgeson. 
    • Please register in order to view this content

       
    • Ive seen that theory thrown out but the one thing against it is that Leslie and her family lived in Chicago. She only came back to DC last year after her husband died. Unless they say Alan made a trip to DC and died while away, she wouldnt know about that. However I do think the angle of her finding out that Martin was involved could work as that gives her leverage against Bill too for covering it up. She'd want to get revenge on him by threatening to have him disbarred
    • What a good write-up @Errol! Nice seeing the nod to Duplaix's lead.
    • The Egypt location shoot was cancelled because of the Achille Lauro cruise ship hijacking 
    • https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/composer-leonard-bernstein-s-children-request-his-music-be-played-in-the-kennedy-center-in-rebuke-to-trump
    • And, to me it is a little bit hilarious that AW fans all over continue to refer to it as Egyptian Dust Recently elsewhere I've been running polls. When did you stop watching AW or What storyline caused you to stop watching AW. You may be interested to know that sticking it out till the bitter end is winning by a landslide. Next highest vote getter is - no surprise - Frankie's murder. So that covers like 60% & next 20%. Then the votes drop way down to 10% and well below but a wide array of reasons are given, including but not limited to  Justine Lumina Rachel having twins at her age, how ridiculous Mac's death the 90 minute show firing JC, George R & Dwyer Hmm, I know there are a few more, in the 1%-3% range but I cannot think of what they are. Sorry, my bad. Should have made notes but I didn't know I would be posting about it. LOL!!  
    • A kind angel has added both episodes to the vault (UK Diva TV broadcast version). 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy