Jump to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

Soap Opera Network Community

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

Featured Replies

  • Member
8 hours ago, Forever8 said:

An episode of Loving has been recently uploaded from October 5, 1989. And in the beginning a piece of pop culture history news segment too.

What a treat, thanks for sharing!

 

2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Who is the man and woman talking about Jeff? The guy looks familiar to me. 

That's Dale and Jolie, of Trisha's first "death" fame (and thanks for the tag).

  • Replies 3.8k
  • Views 1m
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

  • Member
5 minutes ago, Kane said:

That's Dale and Jolie, of Trisha's first "death" fame (and thanks for the tag).

Thanks. I don't remember them. I wonder if the show had any more plans for them. They seem to be building something for Jolie. 

Just read about Jolie's end on the wonderful Loving blog. Geez. Truly haunting. I wonder if it plays onscreen the way it does on the page.

  • Member
2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks. I don't remember them. I wonder if the show had any more plans for them. They seem to be building something for Jolie. 

Just read about Jolie's end on the wonderful Loving blog. Geez. Truly haunting. I wonder if it plays onscreen the way it does on the page.

Jolie was pretty chummy with Curtis, so maybe that was the original plan. I could see things playing out with him recruiting her to help break up Rocky and Todd, only for them to fall for each other, at which point maybe events from her past would have come into play to come between them.

The episode with Jolie's death was on youtube at one point (it may still be). It's from November 1989.

  • Member
29 minutes ago, Kane said:

Jolie was pretty chummy with Curtis, so maybe that was the original plan. I could see things playing out with him recruiting her to help break up Rocky and Todd, only for them to fall for each other, at which point maybe events from her past would have come into play to come between them.

The episode with Jolie's death was on youtube at one point (it may still be). It's from November 1989.

Thanks. You're right. Turns out I had seen it. I knew nothing of those characters, so it didn't have an effect on me. Now that I know, the scenes of her struggling and begging forgiveness are more effective.

Interesting that they didn't intentionally (?) have Jeff kill her.

I guess this was the end of that Dale character. The actor is cute. Whoever cast Loving often seemed to have an eye for attractive men.

Edited by DRW50

  • Member
46 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I guess this was the end of that Dale character. The actor is cute. Whoever cast Loving often seemed to have an eye for attractive men.

I'm not sure, but I think that was Mark Kiely, who has appeared in a bunch of shows over the years, including "Beverly Hills, 90210," where he played one of the teachers at West Beverly High.

  • Member
11 minutes ago, Khan said:

I'm not sure, but I think that was Mark Kiely, who has appeared in a bunch of shows over the years, including "Beverly Hills, 90210," where he played one of the teachers at West Beverly High.

Thanks! You're right.

  • Member
14 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks! You're right.

You're welcome!  And you're right, too, about LOVING and their ability to cast exceptionally attractive men.  Too bad ABCD never thought to launch a "Loving the Men on LOVING" ad campaign.  Who knows?  It might've helped their ratings, lol!

  • Member

Thanks @TheyStartedOnSoaps it's nice to see all those promos together.

That first promo is odd if it is meant to introduce new viewers to the show - they seem to imply Curtis is also a Donovan, Roger too, and they don't identify several of the men featured.

Seeing Bryan Cranston doing his wacky dancing shows you why he would go on to spend so many years in sitcoms.

Edited by DRW50

  • Member
On 3/6/2025 at 6:43 PM, DRW50 said:

@Forever8 Thanks so much. I deeply appreciate the time you take finding these episodes. We have a ton of some periods (mainly starting around 1991) but this one was not around that I can remember. It sure is something I could use with everything going on now.

Smart to give Kate a roommate to remind us that she wasn't one of the Corinth elite...especially contrasted with Ava and Clay on a private plane. That shot of them on the floor was well done. As Clay talks about his background I'm reminded again of how much James Horan brought to Clay, but above all else, what a strong yet quiet presence he had.

Nice to hear Ava talk about her father, briefly.

I had forgotten until watching this that the real Clay genuinely would not know anything about Ava's background.

I briefly thought that was Paul in the wheelchair until I remembered that isn't the right timeline. I guess the show got a lot of use out of that thing. Jeff is so mustache-twirling to the point of hilarity, with the foot-wiggling and the dramatic collapse. 

Who is the man and woman talking about Jeff? The guy looks familiar to me. 

The scenes with the doctors talking to Kate about her surgery have such a touch of reality to them thanks to Nada Rowand and some tender writing.

And does anyone know who is playing the nurse? She looks familiar too. And the lady doctor too. @slick jones

@dc11786 @Kane @Vee @Franko @Contessa Donatella @Melroser @Paul Raven @Khan @chrisml @Joseph @Sapounopera

 

 

@DRW50   The lady Doctor is referred to a Dr. Rosen. There is a 1988 character named Dr. Rosen. A cast crawl at that time credited her as actress Mary Jay. I couldn't find a picture of Mary Jay to compare to the video.

The nurse looks familiar to me as well Dr. Blandell and Mrs. Waterford, but I don't know where from.

Nada Rowand is such an underrated actress. I would have loved to have seen her cast as a matriarch on another soap after Loving. She had earlier soap roles, but the character names  have yet to be uncovered..

  • Member

This is an episode which used to be on Youtube. I looked and looked and didn't see it at present (if I missed it, my apologies).

My copy did not have a date, although I am guessing someone here probably knew it. I didn't feel like going through all the posts so luckily the great Loving blog helped due to their listing the date as sometime in October.

Recap: October [date unknown], 1987 – Loving (1983-1995)

Edited by DRW50

  • Member

During COVID some of us Loving fans managed to get (from a kind fan) and watch a good chunk of the episodes from this infamous storyline but for various reasons weren't allowed to share them.  So I'm so glad that this fan edit of the story at least was just made now.

And though she wasn't credited as HW at the time, let's all remember this IS an Agnes Nixon storyline at least at heart--I have a copy of her lengthy story outline for it (including her reasoning for it) copies from her archives.  
 

 

  • Member
1 hour ago, EricMontreal22 said:

During COVID some of us Loving fans managed to get (from a kind fan) and watch a good chunk of the episodes from this infamous storyline but for various reasons weren't allowed to share them.  So I'm so glad that this fan edit of the story at least was just made now.

And though she wasn't credited as HW at the time, let's all remember this IS an Agnes Nixon storyline at least at heart--I have a copy of her lengthy story outline for it (including her reasoning for it) copies from her archives.  

Thanks so much for letting us know. I have always been interested in seeing more of this even though I am not a big fan of John O'Hurley, and just seeing more of this period in general. I do prefer episodes over clips but I can't exactly be demanding when this era is very difficult to find. 

Someone in the comments claimed the story killed the show because the first year had been seen as promising and this was a laughingstock. I wonder if that's true. I don't remember hearing the first year was so highly prized, although I do know this story was later used in some soap book or magazine summaries of why the show wasn't good (another was a cough syrup addiction, which I genuinely thought was true until I think some here debunked that). 

@Kane @Vee @Paul Raven @Sapounopera @slick jones @Joseph @dc11786 @Khan@TheyStartedOnSoaps  @Franko @Contessa Donatella @Melroser @chrisml

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Recently Browsing 0

  • No registered users viewing this page.

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.