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May 5-9, 2008

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Days lost 3,000 viewers?

That is pretty good compared to most of the other soaps. Does anyone have a theory about why more than half (five) of the soaps lost @100,000 viewers or more from just last week? I don't understand what could have happened especially since it was the first full week of Sweeps. It's more than soaps are poorly written and ineptly managed and produced shows because that didn't just start happening last week - what could have happened specifically last week to explain the big drops?

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Days lost 3,000 viewers?

It's just a nightmare all around. The fact that the best thing you can say ratings-wise about ANY soap is that GL gained a "few" viewers (comparatively speaking to the millions who watch) hurts so much, especially in the first week of May Sweeps, post-strike.

It's very telling. This audience is not coming back. Crikey, I need a drink.

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Do you think that the fan campaigns where producers, network executives, actors, or media writers receive gifts of value should be considered payola in order to promote a specific storyline, couple, or character? I understand sending in postcards and that sort of thing but I recently watched a youtube clip where Becky Herbst (and I am NOT singling her out by any means whatsoever. It's just the example I happened to see.) showed off a bracelet that was sent by a certain faction of her fans and I remember thinking how strange it was. I could see where receiving gifts of a certain monetary value by a faction of her fans might influence her support for one pairing over another. It could influence storylines and ultimately affect the careers of not only the actor involved but other actors on the show. Similarly if Guza, Phelps, or we could expand it to other shows like The Bears or Carruthers et al. were receiving similar treatment, could that actually be considered payola?

I do not. Well not when you send things to actors... but if you were to say send bob guza some gift that reflect liason yes. ya know what i mean? because actors just kinda act.. the producers/hw/execs make the show.

i also know that a lot of times when soap stars receve big gifts they often donate them.. i forget who, to be honest i think it was becky herbst or ali sweeney... got like a crib or something and donated it.

thats a very good topic tho.

1. Y&R 4,957,000 (-348,000/-342,000)

2. B&B 3,878,000 (-99,000/+91,000)

3. ATWT 2,851,000 (-98,000/-222,000)

4. GH 2,848,000 (-48,000/-759,000)

5. DAYS 2,696,000 (-3,000/+112,000)

6. OLTL 2,457,000 (-133,000/-750,000)

7. GL 2,389,000 (+37,000/-277,000)

8. AMC 2,367,000 (-101,000/-907,000)

O.M.F.G at GL being more watched than AMC!!

wow.. Y&R lost A LOT!

and i guess go days for losing the least?! lol.

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Probably B&B. I havent seen much of it but what I have seen I liked.

i agree with you there.

B&B is the best.

(but OLTL is right behind it...)

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The executives at CBS Daytime won't do much about Y&R, at least not until B&B becomes nr. 1. I wish they'd do something about the show already.

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Dixie's return and Jake's return did squat to the ratings. They went down. Possibly the fans are pissed about ghost Dixie and tuned out??

I think you're right. Most viewers online at least (and the one person offline I know who still watches off and on, my mom) wanted Dixie back alive. If a short-term appearance was the route Frons & JHC wanted to take, they should have let her be a figment of Adam's imagination instead of making her a ghost and compounding their mistake of killing her off in the first place.

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Dixie's return and Jake's return did squat to the ratings. They went down. Possibly the fans are pissed about ghost Dixie and tuned out??

I actually think it's more about the slanted writing with this stupid Ghost storyline. We already get Adam=evul Tad=all that is sacred and good, we don't need to be forcefed it by some idiotic cackling ghost

Seriously I think her return as a ghost is starting to beat out her return in 2006 for the worst......

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That recent dip for Y&R is really quite something..you know how much I love your charts Sylph. I literally live for them :-).

:D Thank you, Mark, I'll keep them coming. Here's what I've got for you (data goes up to 1996 and I have yet to add the seasonal data from 2000 onwards – if someone can point me to the exact posts where I can find these, I'd be extremely thankful!!)

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AMC last place..................This HAS to be B&E last straw!!

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QUOTE (Chris B @ May 16 2008, 01:08 AM)
I hope Bell and Griffith look at how bloody boring the show is and take notice! They need to do like ABC and roll out all the stars. Tricia Cast, Victoria Rowell, Adrianne Leon, Ashley Bashioum--list goes on. The current canvas seems so stale and like it's missing a major jolt. There are people in each age group that could be brought back to improve things. They also need to pick up the pace and raise the stakes with the story. This Victor/Sabrina [!@#$%^&*] needs to end. Put Victoria with someone she has chemistry with, not her fricking real life husband. Don't let a major character like Nikki marry such an unpopular character. Hell, why is he STILL in town?

Keeping LML's staff is holding the show back, but the stories are just as bad as the pacing and story structure which has only improved somewhat. This is the most disappointing show for sure.

Personally, I don't think "rolling out the stars" will save Y&R if the writing isn't there. It's all about exceptional storytelling. While a popular, returning actor or actress may get some press buzz and a slightly, initial ratings bump, if lapsed viewers tune back in only to find their fav trapped in a deadly dull or preposterous story, that viewer will tune back out, possible for good. And who can blame them. It's happened too many times. And the results have been the same. There are exceptions, of course. Angie and Jessie's returns on AMC seem to have kept the show from free-falling even farther. But what Y&R needs now is a repositioning of its popular characters, in stories that excite and interest and are grounded in the show's rich history. There's so much that isn't working these days, pairings that have no chemistry: Nikki and David, Victor and Sabrina, J.T. and Victoria. Even Nicholas and Phyllis have become deadly dull. I think Y&R is at a crossroads. They have an inexperienced HW, who's been out of daytime for twenty-plus years. She's inherited a bloody mess from the previous HW. It would take someone very seasoned to extricate the show from LML's residue. At the very least they need to bring in a co-head, someone with history with the show. They also need to remployee many of the breakdown and scriptwriters who were fired during LML's tenure. They've written the show for years. They know the history of the characters. They know it's about emotional content, not about witty banter and dialogue. It's possible to turn this ship around, but as many of the other flagging soaps have shown, once the audience leaves, it's difficult if not impossible to get them back. That's why it's critical that TPTB back now, swiftly and decisively. If Y&R continues to sink, the rest of the CBS lineup will feel the fallout, which will further wound the soap opera brand.

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