Ryan's Hope Discussion Thread

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I download alot on my phone and mac book I wonder if I could download it there.  I love audiobooks while I'm commuting to and from work.  

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In yesterday's Locher Room interview, author Tom Lisante mentioned Ryan's Bar Online and it's webmaster ---our own DeliaIrisFan! aka ItsnotDeliasfault on the SoapNet forum.

 

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Such a wonderful site, especially all the old articles. I was so grateful to find it after starting RH on Soapnet.

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There is a lot of Ilene WAS/IS Delia comments by many people in the book. To her credit, I have yet to read anything about Randall Edwards letting that get to her. On the show, Randall kept to herself. 

Both Randall and Roscoe Born were glad they didn't pair up Delia and Joe romantically.

The audience and Helen Gallagher did not like Maeve's dance contest storyline. 

There was some writer that wanted Seneca to come out as a homosexual.

Michael Levin wanted a romantic relationship for Jack and Siobhan. Claire and Paul decided against it.

Sarah Felder---There weren't really any new details about her firing  or Richard Muenz. Many liked and loved her. Ilene said Sarah didn't understand authority and didn't understand that she was not a writer of the series. Sarah could be very brusque (Ilene's word) with people and very angry.

The show had wanted Ann Gillespie to dye her hair brown to be closer to Sarah's hair color.  They put a rinse instead that would eventually wash out. Later on, and just like with Sarah Felder, the show told Ann they were cutting her hair. 

Once again similar to Sarah Felder, Ann had a temper and threw fits. Ann admits she was not the most mature person at that point in her career or as a human. Ann blew up on the set one time at director Lela Swift--- and also criticized the script --- two days later she was fired.  Ann wasn't happy on the show and now says she wishes she had handled things better back then.

Roscoe liked working with Ann. Rose Alaio loved her.

Louise Shaffer knew she was out when they hired Gloria DeHaven. She said the show didn't need two over-the-hill divas.

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Thanks for these tidbits. 

Ann never should have been hired in the first place, but that's not her fault. 

Seneca being gay would have made some sense.

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Big Randall Edwards fan here...I recall Helen being very fond of Randall and of course Roscoe married her, so she endeared herself to some (if not all).

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I don't remember seeing this mentioned here or anywhere (sorry if it was and I missed it) but I only just came across that Michael Hawkins (Frank #1) died almost a year ago. His obituary was done in his birth name and is really pretty blunt:

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/latimes/name/thomas-slater-obituary?id=38640120

Thomas Slater Obituary

December 26, 1938 - November 14, 2022 Thomas Knight Slater, 83, of Los Angeles, California, succumbed to cancer on November 14, 2022. Thomas is survived by his son Christian (Brittany), brothers Stu (Patti) and Bill, and grandchildren Jaden, Eliana, and Lena. He is predeceased by his parents and his brother Steve. Thomas worked as an actor, originating the role of Frank Ryan on Ryan's Hope and appearing in multiple Broadway productions. However, he was forced to give up the career he loved due to a severe decline in his mental health. He was estranged from his family and caused them considerable heartache; it is our hope that he finds the peace in death that cruelly eluded him in life. A special thank you to the social workers, hospice workers, nurses and caregivers who provided him with loving care and support during his final months. Per his wishes, Thomas's ashes will be scattered "between Shakespeare and O'Neill," which we understand to mean the Atlantic Ocean"
Published by Los Angeles Times from Jan. 13 to Jan. 14, 2023.

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I forgot to add that Kirstie Alley had auditioned for the role of Siobhan #2. Roscoe Born noted that she was taller than he was and if she got the job they wouldn't have hired him.

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Kirstie would have been a better choice. 

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Randall was a great. Randall and Ann Gillespie became close friends.

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I hope DeliaIrisFan is still around and pops back in soon.

 

There is also Sean's Ryan's Hope site. 

https://www.geocities.ws/ryanshope75/

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@safe Was Yasmine Bleeth interviewed ?  She was a teen when she started on RH and she dated Grant Show...bet she has lots to share.

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No, she wasn't. Grant Show was not part of this either. It would have been great to hear from both of them

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Michael Levin said Yasmine was very sweet and pretty. She was also described as amazing and a joy. Ash Adams adored her.

On the pairing of Ryan and Rick with Ryan and Yasmine being so young --- here were some of the comments from writers ,directors, and other in production were 

It was creepy

Yasmine did wonderfully being her first job---Grant did not make the paring work

Grant gave Yasmine a little more gravitas

The pairing never worked

Grant was also a bit of a problem on the set

 

 

 

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Randall Edwards used an internalized approach to her scenes. The Crystal Palace was her favorite storyline. She thought Roger and Delia were perfect for each other. She saw the Prince Albert script and said OK and just went with it and was disappointed Delia's past lives story didn't happen. She had fun dancing with Michael Corbett. She spoke very highly of Roscoe Born---amazing, intelligent, kind, passionate. She left to do other things. The press said the show offered her a lot to stay but Randall didn't recall them offering her a lot of of money. As for her brief time as a temporary Annie on As the World Turns --- she didn't think she could playing a straight up leading lady-type for any long period of time after playing a character like Delia.

 

Michael Corbett and the killing of Michael Pavel---Michael's recount of being told by Ellen Barrett and having her sound more sympathetic and him  appreciative of the heads up is a different version than he had on his website (is it still on his website?) back 15 years ago or so were he compared it to a "Devil Wears Prada" type conversation where Ellen was short and curt with him.  In the book, he said he knew a few weeks a head of time (which I think was what he said in a 1983 SOD interview) and online he said he only knew 6 or 7 days before getting shot.

The press liked Maureen Garrett and her character of Elizabeth Jane Ryan but the viewers didn't.  Roscoe Born said a lot of the core cast didn't like Maureen and Will Patton, either --- he called them outsiders. He added the other cast members seemed to not like most new actors brought in to the show. Ilene Kristen was crazy about Will Patton, though.

Before Roscoe Born had started, Paul Mayer told him, that when his contract comes up for renewal, don't re-sign. Paul daughter thought her father saw some star power in Roscoe and that was why Paul gave that guidance.

When Marg Helgenberger started, Roscoe gave her the same advice. Early on, Roscoe and many others saw a bright career for Marg away from the show. Some say Marg was quirky like Sarah ---some say she wasn't--- but all agreed Marg had that something special. The cast and crew loved Marg--- she was magic --- and even more so with Roscoe. Someone likened Max and Siobhan to Aristotle Onassis and Jackie Kennedy type relationship. Some liked the story and some didn't. 

 

 

Edited October 28, 2023 by safe