This is the Presidential Campaign Thread.

Barack Obama Vs. John McCain.

Edited November 6, 200817 yr by Toups

From USA Today:

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/...s-polls--1.html

Today's polls: Obama matches best-ever lead in Gallup

The pressure's on Republican John McCain as the presidential candidates prepare for a critical debate tonight in Nashville. Five national tracking polls show he's trailing Democrat Barack Obama by an average of nearly seven percentage points. He's behind nine points in the Gallup Poll.

The tracking polls are based on interviews conducted Oct. 4-6. We include here with our usual national trackers a new one from Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby. Special bonus: New polls of Florida and Nevada.

Click on each poll for information about sample size, margin of error and other details.

National tracks:

Gallup: Obama 51%, McCain 42%. "The nine percentage point lead in Oct. 4-6 tracking matches Obama's highest to date for the campaign, and the highest for either candidate. Obama led McCain by 49% to 40% near the tail end of his international trip in late July," analyst Jeff Jones writes.

Rasmussen: Obama 52%, McCain 44%, "the second straight day that Obama has led by eight percentage points, his largest lead of the year."

Diageo/Hotline: Obama 46%, McCain 44%, considerably narrower than yesterday's 47%-41% race.

Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby: Obama 48%, McCain 45%

Research2000/Daily Kos: Obama 52%, McCain 41%

New state polls:

Florida, Mason-Dixon: Obama 48%, McCain 46%

Nevada, Reno Gazette-Journal/Channel 2 News: Obama 50%, McCain 43%

For more new state polls, see Mark's post from earlier today.

My prediction was that the polls would shift back towards McCain. They have. Especially today...have you checked the poll averages at realclearpolitics.com? Take a look at the line chart. Obama is on a downward trend, while McCain is going upward. He has been on the rise since the Biden/Palin debate.

I followed your link, and scrolled down to the line chart. The red and blue lines both look like they're going up to me. Am I missing something? Has something changed since 9:45 this morning?

Never mind, I see what you are talking about now. What's more informative to myself, though, is that on the next page, under the electoral map, that yellow line pops up also, and shows that Obama has maintained the gap over the last five days. It's still too close to call.

Edited October 7, 200817 yr by cct

It sounds like somebody is confused and should go back to recipes:

Cindy McCain: Obama's Waged "Dirtiest Campaign" in U.S. History

Cindy McCain said today that she expects her husband to clear the record at tonight's debate and let America know where he truly stands.

McCain, who stopped to visit a half-dozen children at the Monroe Carell Jr. Children's Hospital at Vanderbilt today, said the presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama has "waged the dirtiest campaign in American history," and her husband Sen. John McCain will use tonight's debate to correct the distortions.

It sounds like somebody is confused and should go back to recipes:

Cindy McCain: Obama's Waged "Dirtiest Campaign" in U.S. History

Jeez. Unbelievable. These people will do anything to win the election, won't they?

Wales, I don't think she has ever read a recipe in her life. It's more like, she should go back to eating bon-bons and getting pedicures. She obviously hasn't been paying attention.

Palin Criticizes Biden While He's At Mother-In-Law's Funeral

While the presidential campaign has taken a decidedly personal and vicious tilt these past few days, one individual who has generally been left out of the fray has been Sen. Joe Biden. That's because the Delaware Democrat has been off the trail bereaving the loss of his mother-in-law to a heart attack.

As such an informal detente has been in place when it comes to attacking him. But on Tuesday, Sarah Palin broke the truce.

Speaking to a rabid crowd in Florida, the Alaska Governor was set to focus her ire primarily on Barack Obama. And, for the most part, she did, arguing that he was associated with domestic terrorists, tied to the heads of evil Fannie Mae and dangerously committed to hosting summits of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Then, however, she let loose. "Will [Obama] now claim that his ticket doesn't define higher taxes as patriotic? Remember that's what Joe Biden had said. Will he claim that he has just learned now that tax increases on small businesses kill jobs?"

Certainly the Biden dig was much softer than those aimed at the head of the ticket. But with the Senator having been off the trail for the past several days, Palin surely was aware of the elements behind his absence. Whether she slipped up or this was deliberate is another matter.

This whole election and the state of our country is scaring the ever living [!@#$%^&*] out of me. For someone to call out "treason" and 'kill him" at a rally at the very least should be escorted off the premised for trying to incite a riot and at the most get arrested for disturbing the peace. Why hasn't the McCain camp issued a statement saying to stop it. I feel like we are back in medieval England and someone is going to get their head chopped off. This is really serious stuff. My God, what if the worst thing happens and someone brings a gun to an Obama rally. This really, really has to stop.

What happenned to make this all about talking [!@#$%^&*] about the candidates? When did this stop being about the issues? For the Love of God, can we stop talking crap to each other and start having conversations about the issues and policies that are affecting the nation?

Honestly, I don't give a [!@#$%^&*] about who Obama knew when he was eight or what McCain did with the Keating Five as long as he learned something from it. I care about finding a damn job. Which candidate cares enough about me, your average thirty year old female, who got laid off because of the financial crisis on Wall Street. Who is going to clean it up to help me. Yes I am a selfish bitch and yes it is all about me.

I know that this post won't change a damn thing in this thread, but really, I thought I would try. Can we stop the mud slinging and rise above it all? Let's just stop.

McCain and Palin have dragged the level of political discourse way down. I don't even get this nasty in 2000 and 2004 campaigns, which were pretty divisive. The things being said border on the nonsense you would her in tinpot third-world countries with no democratic principals.

Edited October 7, 200817 yr by ReddFoxx

Its really disturbing to see how there are still groups in the USA that can show up at a Palin-McCain rally and scream such hateful things. What is even more disturbing is thatPalin and McCain are encouraging it. These are the two close minded bigots you want leading your country in the 21st century? Dear dear.

First of all, I want to state outright that I am an Obama supporter. I haven't posted as much on this thread that enough of you would remember. Think of this as my disclaimer.

Second, in no way shape or form do I believe everyone who is voting for McCain is prejudiced, racist, or bigot. There are many reasons to not vote for the man.

However, when you think about the fact that we are coming off of a weak administration like GWB and that Obama is not leading by a country mile, only one reason comes to my mind...race. When you look at the 18 million votes for Hillary and where she was strongest, when you look at where McCain leads in the polls by an overwhelming majority, when you look at the large gap between McCain and Obama among registed white voters, when you look at the overwhelming support people under 30 have for Barack, my thoughts go back to race.

I hope I am wrong.

This election will be tight; I have no doubt. I do not think the turnout of blacks will offset the turnout of people who will not vote Obama due to race. I hope that Obama does take the Presidency in January and that it will open the door to a long overdue conversation about race this country sorely needs. I become excited seeing the young white people who are helping us canvas here in Ohio. We know the hill we climb is steep, but I'm hoping maybe we can turn a corner...

Cindy McCain: Obama's Waged "Dirtiest Campaign" in U.S. History

Someone needs to readjust their wig.

Someone needs to readjust their wig.

no her designer shoes are too tight!

A man told today how he was shot three times in a London street for wearing a Barack Obama T-shirt.

Dube Egwuatu was buying a mobile telephone top-up card in an off-licence when the gunman confronted him and glared at the top, which carries an image of the Democrat US presidential candidate underneath the legend 'Believe'.

The man then launched into a tirade of racist slurs, shouting 'I f***ing hate n*****s' and urging 36-year-old Mr Egwuatu to leave the shop with him.

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'I couldn't believe it was happening - and just because I was wearing an Obama T-shirt. He was trying to make me walk somewhere quieter, saying: 'I've got something for you,' and 'I'm going to kill you.'

He added: 'Obama inspires me, his educational track record alone is quite unbelievable - that is why I was wearing the T-shirt.

'I did not think for one minute it could stir up such powerful feelings of hatred and I never said a word to him.'

Boy there were a lot of pages to catch up on.

Hmm what to say.

After reading quiet a lot this morning and seeing the two clips from The View I am starting to wonder if Casey and Elizabeth Hassleback are one and the same, if not they would make a great couple.

I do believe in the death penalty but only if it is proven beyond doubt that the person is indeed guilty, why should the tax payer pay for his/her upkeep.

On the economic's our stock markets are effect a bit, but the reserve bank slashed official interest rates by 1% which is the most the interest rates have been slashed by in 16 years. Our markets were down at the time and by the close of business they were up by 1%.

A man told today how he was shot three times in a London street for wearing a Barack Obama T-shirt.

Dube Egwuatu was buying a mobile telephone top-up card in an off-licence when the gunman confronted him and glared at the top, which carries an image of the Democrat US presidential candidate underneath the legend 'Believe'.

The man then launched into a tirade of racist slurs, shouting 'I f***ing hate n*****s' and urging 36-year-old Mr Egwuatu to leave the shop with him.

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'I couldn't believe it was happening - and just because I was wearing an Obama T-shirt. He was trying to make me walk somewhere quieter, saying: 'I've got something for you,' and 'I'm going to kill you.'

He added: 'Obama inspires me, his educational track record alone is quite unbelievable - that is why I was wearing the T-shirt.

'I did not think for one minute it could stir up such powerful feelings of hatred and I never said a word to him.'

OMG this is just horrible.

And what is being said at McCain/Palin rallies. These two seem to invite racism and encourage it where ever they go.

Palin is on my last nerves with bringing up the ayers/wright drama, things obama has repeatedly been asked about before and answered. Funny how when the numbers for McCain go down that they resort back to smears and distractions because they want the focus off the economy. Palin is now McCain's mascot who isn't even scheduled to do anymore interviews in the forseeable future. I was watching KO broadcast of 10/3/08 and I was shocked to find out that McCain and co had no faith in Palin's debating abilities, they didn't even have McCain people in the back to say that she won the debate and then she found out from an interview that McCain wasn't going to campaign in MI. For someone that is suppose to be McCain's VP she sure seems out of the loop. Its very obvious that she is McCain's mascot and only uses her when it serves him, thats why he won't let her go on anymore interviews.

And what is being said at McCain/Palin rallies. These two seem to invite racism and encourage it where ever they go.

Its really sad, because I used to respect McCain, the supposed MAVERICK. He's turned into someone that I don't respect and don't believe in. Palin, I never respected and I'm not suprised at any of her actions, this is the same woman that supported anti-american sentiments, yet she's now running for VP of the U.S.

Edited October 7, 200817 yr by EricaKane70

Its really sad, because I used to respect McCain, the supposed MAVERICK. He's turned into someone that I don't respect and don't believe in. Palin, I never respected and I'm not suprised at any of her actions, this is the same woman that supported anti-american sentiments, yet she's now running for VP of the U.S.

I used to respect McCain too. You know back in 2003/2004 when American sentiments against Bush were running so high, I always considered him a Republican that I could sympathize with and he seemed to really care about changing things. Well no more because its quite clear he lacks both the judgement, and the change necessary to govern the USA in these trying times.