1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

Thanks.

I don't mind Perry King here, although I thought he was stiff in some of his later primetime soap work (admittedly he was only meant to be a baddie or stiff in those).

Jean is doing the heavy lifting.

There are some good moments here, like the quiet reveal of how broke the family is, but it may have been too morose for where primetime soaps were heading.

That era sure loved the incest undertones...I don't even know if you can call them undertones here. I wonder if Perry and Mary would have been revealed as not being siblings.

Why is Melanie Griffith credited in that video?

You’re quite welcome and I agree with many of the points you raised. The incest line was wayyy too blatant lol.

And yes, I have memories from King on Melrose. Not so good lol.

Interesting to see the movie was written by Stirling Silliphant. Silliphant was in the twilight of his career by this point but of course no stranger to heavy and at times gothic melodrama from his earlier TV work—see Route 66 as the most prominent of his work. But I don’t if he still had the energy to deliver a weekly serialized series as opposed to episodic work.

44 minutes ago, Khan said:

I agree. Even KL would become less middle-class in the next year in order to keep up with DALLAS, DYNASTY and FC.

Thanks, @soapfan770 , for the tag!

You’re quite welcome. I’m sure if ABC had picked this up they would have probably ordered to be tooled more like Dynasty.

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Thanks for the tag @soapfan770

The 1980s had a lot of these soapy movies/miniseries that were pretty much pilots for primetime soaps.

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The Observer Dispatch Sun Jan 18 1981.

King of Sudsers Builds Own Fantasy Islands By JERRY BUCK

LOS ANGELES - Michael Filerman spent five years presiding over CBS' daytime soap operas. Now he is the man responsible for the explosion of nighttime suds. Filerman developed" Dallas" with creator David Jacobs, and at Lorimar Productions he is the co-executive producer of "Knots Landing" and "Secrets of Midland Heights" on CBS and "Flamingo Road'' on NBC.

"When the networks saw that this form was successful they began coming to us and saying, "We need to get on the bandwagon too,'" says Filerman. The only prime-time soap opera that has escaped Filerman's personal touch is ABC"s"Dynasty "

BEFORE the success of 'Dallas." the networks had made several attempts at nighttime soap opera. CBS tried with "Sons and Daughters" in 1974 and failed. The most successful of these was ABC's "Peyton Place," a sudser that ran for five years in the 1960s, up to three times a week "I think part the success of Dallas is that it's larger than life," says Filer man "Sons and Daughters' was a very middle class show and you couldn't take as much license with the stories you were telling. You couldn't have archvillain as with J.R

"And I think part of the success of 'Dallas' is not only that larger than life actuality but the glamor. You've got the beautiful clothes, beautiful home, and all the toys that go with it. 1 think that's very much why, and it came along at a good time". Times are tough. You can't afford to go out and see a $5 movie every week. So people kind of liked looking at the glamor and the wealth of the Ewings. And the knowledge that for all their monev and power there's not a lot of happiness in that household.

According to Filerman, the public finallv grew tired of the cop shows "I thank thev're tired of knowing how it s going to end. Seeing ear chases, helicopter chases. Supposedly cute repartee .between two good looking leads. He says: "The audience is interested in character relationship:. What goes on between people and among people, and not worrying how it;s going to end or how it's going to grow. People on serialized dramas change, their attitudes change, their characters change, their relationships change. And I think people are finding that's a little more interesting. l'm not saying that it mirrors life. No, it's drama and drama's not real life. It's "fantasy" ,and I think in these times we need a little fantasy in our lives. 1 think that has a lot to do with the appeal."

"DALLAS" has come under attack from some for its sexual content, but Filerman says such shows simply reflect contemporary sexual attitudes between men and women "We're living in a more permissive society." he says Filerman insists, however, that the shows are net so much permissive as they are romantic. "I think there's a lot of romance in "Dallas " says Filerman. "Certainly there's infidelity, but there's fidelity in a lot of other areas. I mean Joan Crawford, Bette Davis, Barbara Stanwyck, all these wonderful stars of the '30s and '40s, they made their reputations in movies about just the kinds of things we're talking about now "Yes, we deal with the "seven deadly sins, but I think we deal with greed as well as lust, power, all the things that we sitting at home like to fantasize about." He adds, "And when people take them too seriously, I've got to say it's their problem We feel we're providing the audience with a little hit of escapist entertainment. You can't take these shows seriously. I mean, if you do. then you're in bigger trouble than we are "

FILERMAN grew up in Chicago and got his degree in communications from the University of Illinois. He was working at the Commercial Clearing House briefing law cases. His life changed when he joined the Army Reserve and was assigned to the psychological warfare unit 'I had my degree and I wanted to get into television," he recalls. "I didn't want to go to some small town, I wanted to work in rny hometown and I got lucky. I met this guy in the Army Reserve named Fred Silverman, and he had a job at WGN-TV. He got Filerman a job at the station and when he went to New York for CBS, Filerman took over his job.

After a few years Silverman asked him to come to New York. Filerman said no. He said no a second time. The truth was he was afraid to leave Chicago. The third time Silverman called and told him,'lf you don't accept this time you should see a psychiatrist." So he rnoved to NewYork and eventually became head of daytime programming for CBS. There's where he spent all that time studying soap operas. Filerman worked for several other production companies in Hollv wood before ending up at Lorimar in 1976. One of the first things he did was develop "Dallas " Filerman agrees that the development of the prime-time soap opera has about reached its limits. The next step is parody, and Filerman already has himself covered on that. He has a series in development that pokes fun at the night time shows the way "Soap" does at the daytime serials. Filerman. a bachelor, is asked if he watches TV' when he goes home at night. He sighs and says, "I read scripts. That's what I do."

On 6/14/2026 at 7:35 AM, Paul Raven said:

Filerman. a bachelor

Ah yes. Of course, a "bachelor".

One of my great aunts suggested I use that term. It was more "polite"

But she was all that bad. When I asked about "confirmed bachelor" she said that meant I had a male roommate. And giggled.

I dunno, I kinda miss the days when we all would be more discreet about our personal lives. Thanks to social media, it's become The Age of Oversharing, lol.

Agreed. There was never a real need to bring ma or grandma into the fold.

On 6/16/2026 at 2:07 AM, Khan said:

I dunno, I kinda miss the days when we all would be more discreet about our personal lives. Thanks to social media, it's become The Age of Oversharing, lol.

I think we all know that if he had a wife and kids there'd be a short blurb about them though. It's not that he necessarily wanted to be private (which is something I do promote, because God knows we need to know less about each other), it's that he couldn't be open.

On 6/6/2026 at 5:20 AM, SoapDope78 said:

Another promo for "Married The First Year" (1979). If the series had ran longer would they have changed it to " Married The Second Year" ?.....🤣

Married the First Year always oddly interested me. The opening credits make you think it's going for something a bit more, well what we'd call prestige. And I like Leig McCloskey usually. I know it ran only a month but it's interesting that it sorta seems to fit in with David Jacobs desire to do something similar to Scenes from a Marriage which ended up being Knots Landing (which would premier that December.)

I suppose they could have pulled a James at 15 which was James at 16 for its second and final year?

2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I got to host an interview with Melissa Errico for a Sondheim discussion Zoom group I'm a part of each month. It took a bit of work, but she had come here to Victoria for a concert, and I was a big fan and knew how closely she had worked with Sondheim and she had been chummy with me. Anyway, it turned out to be an absolute joy--we chatted for THREE hours when her manager I planned it out for warned that we would only have forty minutes. Of course it was mostly about her Sondheim work and musical theatre in general, but I had to tell her where I first saw her back when I was in Jr High--she said she NEVER gets asked about Central Park West and what a great time she had on it although she absolutely hated how her character was written (she also talked about how it created a life long friendship with John Barrowman who she's done some musical work with, though this wasn't long after people were starting to hammer down on Barrowman for his, umm, well basically enjoyment for flashing people he works with so that did briefly come up.)

8 hours ago, EricMontreal22 said:

I got to host an interview with Melissa Errico for a Sondheim discussion Zoom group I'm a part of each month. It took a bit of work, but she had come here to Victoria for a concert, and I was a big fan and knew how closely she had worked with Sondheim and she had been chummy with me. Anyway, it turned out to be an absolute joy--we chatted for THREE hours when her manager I planned it out for warned that we would only have forty minutes. Of course it was mostly about her Sondheim work and musical theatre in general, but I had to tell her where I first saw her back when I was in Jr High--she said she NEVER gets asked about Central Park West and what a great time she had on it although she absolutely hated how her character was written (she also talked about how it created a life long friendship with John Barrowman who she's done some musical work with, though this wasn't long after people were starting to hammer down on Barrowman for his, umm, well basically enjoyment for flashing people he works with so that did briefly come up.)

Thanks for that, @EricMontreal22 ! I'm glad that Melissa Errico enjoyed her time on CPW. I didn't watch much, but I'd have to agree with her: the way they wrote her character was awful.

To me, "Married" seemed like a show that was way ahead of its' time. As a weekly (22 episodes) series on network television in the '70's, it wasn't sustainable. If it were to premiere on streaming today, however, with, like, 12 episodes per season, it might work.

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Melissa's character on CPW initially started out promising and she had a very unique presence on the show. The turn to the dark side started out promising with her agreeing to team up with the villian in order to further her career... but where the writing ended up taking her character happened too quick and too fast.