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That's more than fair. He deserves it & she deserves to be the doer. Good point! I'm still peeved that they spent one whole scene of Stephen Schnetzer's time with dadgummed Leo in the square. But Gwen's grievance eclipses everyone else's.

Can I kill him? Can I? Can I do it? We could make a mint auctioning off that day player role! Also Clyde!

From your keyboard to the halls of Soap Jesus!!! Why we cannot wait for April this year!

LOL!! Yeah, like, hmm, is something different? No? Okay. When he first switched from Ben to Alex I could not stand all the affectations & pretensions plus calling Victor Vic & Maggie Mags! But, that didn't last too long.

Good catch!

He doesn't generate enough interest in me to hate him. He just bores me. I figure he owes his career to looking good without a shirt on. That's fine for the people who enjoy that. I will say that I would prefer it if he was on a bit less.

No, Lynn Herring is still with the show. I suspect she may have taken some time off for personal matters. Wayne Northrop, you know, was her husband. RIP. He & his family apparently had great suffering before the end. I am astounded. AFAIK the only people who are at all sympathetic to Kristina, currently, are Mama & Papa. Where are these hordes of understanding people? Kristina, if you ask me, has been written off by most of the town. Okay, one, I forgot about Natalia. (Easy to do!) But, she's only making nice because of Sonny. Alright, I'll give you Michael but he's just being a good big brother. Still, that's only 4 people.

April or May

You're not wrong. It is different. It's much much more extreme.

That never bothered me since soaps screw around with ages the way they do. They certainly do not play Kristen as if she's that old. I think they're actually a hot, fun couple but I don't see how they could get past the awful things they've done to & about each other. They give co-parenting a bad name.

Yes, exactly that. I just posted that today in the forum where this discussion took place. A fan has said that in the Julie Poll coffee table book on AW she called L&F/FRFP "unofficial spinoffs" while calling SOMERSET and TEXAS as official spinoffs. I think Eddie's classification is more accurate.

Yes, it is open & thanks for that! @Toups

Brad needs to know you're his advocate!!!!

I really enjoyed Collier. I'll never forget the day he washed Jenn's hair. WHOA. Talk about showing intimacy, without any pretending at sex!!! That really did the trick.

When I saw on the calendar that tomorrow is the dubious anniversary of that dread day when CBS told ATWT to take a hike, I jotted down some of the episodes or clips in my Rumble acct. The account is listed as shallotpeel. In the vintage soaps channel there are episodes from 57 (2), 58, 60, 61 (3), 62 & 63. Then 76 and for '79, 18 episodes. Clips include: Lyla Sings Live, The Dusty Who Moment, Lily & Holden in the Bell Tower, Iva Runs in with Pitchfork and in Stunts, Recast Reveals there is 2 Scott Eldridges. There are others you can find by searching on "ATWT". If you want a link, PM me.

Thanks, makes perfect sense. My fault. I was thinking Mark Collier was a new Mike, not a recast. Lindsay Frost, yes, I knew her name. It was just on the tip of my tongue. Not good as Betsy? I thought she did okay. Of course, "okay" may be a low bar.

With Jagger, their reason was that they wanted us to believe Sonny's motivation for killing him. Yeah, right. But, I'm sure that was their intent. With Drew, I suspect it is to make him interesting rather than pretty dreadfully boring. Ya think? Since he's begun to act so awful I've stopped calling him Drewfus. Now, I don't think "out of nowhere" will hold up, sorry. Kristina has always, or maybe better to say, for a long while, has been impulsive, more ego-centric, probably selfish, IOW spoiled & also a bit like her narcissist father. But, the level they took it before was more benign. Now, it is way out of bounds!! Before Kristina may have been obnoxious. Now she's downright scary. And, this is coming from a major Kristina apologist!

Good point. Agree that it appears to be a kind of a default setting. Do you feel like Bristen is doomed to never get back together? What she's done to him over the years. His pulling a gun on her just last year. Etc.

So, just this week, I've learned something new (to me at least) about AW. In a discussion of FOR RICHER, FOR POORER I learned that 2 characters were on AW. Alan Cushing and Amy Gifford. Said to be friends of Rachel's from this nearby city that I think was an elite suburb of Chicago. So, it was a bonafide crossover but not a spin-off because the show had debuted many months before, named at that time, LOVERS & FRIENDS. Rod Arrants who later would become fairly famous as Travis of Liza & Travis, the Sentells, of SFT. Also can't forget TJ. Amy was played by the actress who later played Janice Frame. If you all knew this already, sorry to bore you.

Earlier in the episode I remarked that we'd just been shown a classic sister fight! But, then they took it another step & it was just too far. I was proud of Molly when she just looked at Kristina disgustedly & said, "We're done. I'm done." And, walked. Kept walking even though she could see & hear Alexis coming over to her. I kinda get them writing Drew like a sleaze, but why would they want us to hate Kristina? What could be a possible motivation? I mean, beyond the sheer drama of it all.

In a way yesterday's show was an expected letdown from the prior 5 days. As to Chad, I find him likable. I think most people are doing the best they can do. Chad is more than just civil to Cat. He is somewhat solicitous of her. I didn't understand why each "couple" got a room with only one big bed. But, then, once they did, why not have the guys bunk together & the gals bunk together? Too obvious, I guess.

I love Tamara Braun but Ava is a waste of her time, IMO.

Shawn Christian's Mike or Mike Kasnoff or wasn't there another Mike, also? Thanks some more!!

Thanks!!! This is great! I knew I could count on y'all!

Thanks so much!! You've made a huge difference.