Contessa Donatella

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@MaximThis does not relate to waking or sleeping. Instead it is a favorite song from my sophomore year in college. But, then, we probably fell asleep to it often, so I lied. So sue me. (I was the one of the 3 of us who had the hi-fi setup.)

Thank you. I checked CC for this & it gave me Lowe, Laub & Lau!!!!

I can testify to that as YT poofed me twice in 10 months. It's their fault that Another World Fan Bench video Rachel & Mac Vol. 1 no longer exists! Although I have to share blame for having a backup copy of everything but it.

Who can put me onto any & all temp Vanessa scenes that are known where they are? Thanks.

Yeah, it's all well & good to discuss 10 minute soaps in a theoretical manner. The thing is that these examples that we actually see are not at all what anyone would think of as a desirable goal, even in theory. In practice they are not cutting it.

More than once I have wondered exactly what Lin Bolen saw in this particular project that she was so determined to see it be produced. I found the opening to be visually off-putting. Nothing about it "grabbed" me. No character made me interested in what was going to happen to them. I wouldn't say that I hated it but also I definitely didn't like it or feel attached to it. I was definitely an NBC soap fan. I had watched both DAYS & AW since 1970. When I got my first VCR I daily taped the entire lineup which included Generations and Santa Barbara,

I just did a re-watch of "Tomorrow 1975 on Soap Operas". This can be found on Dailymotion and also on Rumble. Its been years since I first watched it. This was the late-late night Talk show hosted by Tom Snyder, RIP. For the time it was really a remarkable look at daytime. It was shot at 30 Rock in NYC at the studio where "The Doctors" was produced. Most of the show they are sitting in Steve & Carolee's family room & at every break they are playing the audio to the opening of that soap. His guests were: Joe Stewart, Producer at that soap; Mary Stuart, Jo of SFT; Agnes Nixon, creator & HW of AMC; and finally Bryna Lowe, who published a weekly newsletter that did summaries of the 13 soaps on the air, then. Things of interest: Joe Stewart revealed that his soap at that time was 10 episodes ahead. Two different people stated that 15% of their audience were men. Joe added that they were evenly split between the very young & the very old. Tom stated that 50 million people were watching soaps. He added that there are 5 monthly magazines devoted to these soaps. He also said there were 13 soaps on the air. Agnes said that what is different about soaps today is the pacing, being faster. Also when asked what a soap needs to be successful, she replied, "Believable, interesting characters." I was surprised that Agnes broke Godwin's Law. In talking about villains she said there aren't many Hitlers. What she meant was more gray characters not all black or all white. Several people talked about villains & their thinking that they were right. Tom asked if there were any taboo subjects left. Bryna spoke about homosexuality & how it hasn't been done yet. Among other things she said it had almost been done & that when it does happen on some soap, that it will take a long time to tell it. That it can't be just dropped in.

"A narcissist will blame you for what they did." - unknown

Just noting the various mentions of organ music, if it interests you & you aren't already following it, I would recommend Lance Jackson to you. His YT channel is https://www.youtube.com/@LanceJacksonOrgnplyr You won't be sorry.

I literally could not believe my eyes with early Jerry & early Maeve.

I find that there is something I must point out. So I had referred to Internet sources having errors. But someone posted ridiculing that idea & even suggesting I was making these things up. Now, that same person is on a rant about all the errors on wikipedia. I wonder which it is, what they said here, the other day, or today, in another topic. I suspect we all know this answer.

I personally thought it was very odd that the last time we saw him, what he was doing, was struggling to put on his shirt. Trina offered to help. He declined, saying he needed to be able to do it himself. Do they think they're writing some great story of one man's struggle contrasted with this sweet young thing who wants to help him. I confess I don't see what they seem to want me to see. And, I don't see that changing anytime soon.

I just re-watched "Tomorrow 1975 Looks at Soap Operas". I hadn't watched it in years. When Agnes Nixon spoke about Erica's abortion she mentioned that she did so without her husband's permission. So, just as Will found it pertinent here, so did Agnes Nixon then on late-night TV.

"Place shapes you. Where you were born - the country, the state, the side of town, even the house where you were born adds or subtracts from who you are and who you will become. Your language and your culture are, of course, big - ticket items, but in infinite other smaller ways, where you live molds and makes you who you are. In communication we refer to place as context; in argument, as locus, but it all means pretty much the same thing. Place shapes you. To a remarkable degree, life is a lot like real estate - it's all about location ... location ... location." - From Southern Fried Child in Home Seeker's Paradise by Jimmie Meese Moomaw

Thanks, Paul, for sharing this, I found it to be quite interesting. .

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I'm sure that to most people, at least it they are here in this topic, if they belong here, then it is more than clear why something like this would come up here. I mean a part of why this began was the Y&R live primetime special where they said two real egregious errors. I think we all realize that these kinds of events have a high probability of one or two juicy errors. I mean this is not an academic inquiry & I for one am glad of that.

In the recent past I know there's been talk of 10 minute soaps. 10 minutes long. I fail to see the appeal. I mean WHY? I fear that answer is WHY NOT. And, I'm sure we could enumerate many reasons why not. We already have directors who have no time to direct acting. What comes next?

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Living in New York City with Connie, Louise gradually absorbed the changes with being the author of a best-selling book. Her royalties, at least, were concrete evidence of Harriet the Spy's success. The regular checks made her self-sufficient and independent at last from her family. Her first gift to herself was a beautiful 1965 Mercedes Benz convertible with red leather upholstery. Harriet also gave Louise the clout to help her friends. She introduced aspiring writer and illustrator Jane Wagner to Ursula Nordstrom, and she lent money to Barbara Phelan, who wanted to get out of the city rat race--an ambition Louise shared. (I thought there was going to be more about Connie, but there's not.)

So glad. Me, too!

They are all over IG. Then there's all CBS is doing. Every day there's a little more. I love how they are promoting this!