P.J.

Was converting a 1986 episode of Guiding Light and did a double-take halfway through: Fiona Hutchison was playing a nurse named Molly Patterson. I was shocked as I assumed that her first soap role was on OLTL, but there she was and it seems to be her first appearance. It's not listed on IMDb or anywhere else online. I just uploaded it to the vault so everyone can check it out there. i know Fiona was on through the fall---she ends up having a scene with Vanessa and Henry around the time Vanessa is looking for Dinah. Re: Mel and her family---at times I think they simply dusted off the Grant family dynamic and threw it onscreen. Successful, driven older daughter, troublemaking son, doctor father and strong willed (if less social climbing) mother. I think they tried to weave Mel into the town (wasn't she friends with Harley and Blake?). But no, I don't really remember them working the parents into Springfield either. I don't remember if they came on as a family, or if the show just kind of slapped a family on Mel after they decided Rick needed a wife. Even the faux Bauers seemed more thought out than that. When Long introduced Billy and Mindy, we already had reason to care about him, he was Trish and Josh's brother and niece. Or at least it helped. Mel was already pretty bland--giving her a bland family didn't help. Gosh---I can't believe Remy was a character for that long. He must've been on the Frankie D plan.

I didn't like Mel and her family. Although I'm not sure it's anyone's fault, the show didn't do anything consistently with them. But Mel was a stick in the mud, and Remy was annoying.

To which Vanessa would retort: "At least I was having sex. Not simply pretending to. Jealousy is so last season, Nola dear." LOL.

It's up in the vault. 2-16-93, around the 27:30 mark.

Well, not totally. We can assume the Lewises had an evangelical background. They didn't talk about it much, but it did surface once or twice (i.e. when Billy named Peter, which was a Biblical reference--I SO wish I could find that scene). It was FAR less of a surprise to me when Josh became a pastor than when he once mentioned in passing that he protested the Vietnam War. THAT came out of left field--like, literally. 😂 Well, Josh protesting while at Berkeley I could understand. But it probably messes up the timeline somewhere. Lol. Especially since I believe they said he was 18 in 1977 during the Maryanne Carruthers misfire. Billy, I could see being one of those old time revival tent preachers. Maybe it's the fact Josh never seemed to feel strongly about much other than Reva. Lol. Purely speculation....but being targeted reeks of some personality /fan group clash.

Nope, me neither. It just seemed completely out of left field.

"Memory holed" is pretty accurate. I think the Oil Rig disaster is his turning point, but it's not like he did this great redemptive thing--he just kind of decides he doesn't have to be an ass. I'm not even sure writers after Curlee really realized Josh had been a sleaze. Ross and Vanessa would occasionally reference their earlier selves---from what I recall, Josh didn't. Then again, he was too busy putting up with (or reminding her of) Reva's BS.

Was Long writing SB at some point? Wasn't Krista T also some kind of loon on that show? RN was a psycho? Lord--save me. It must've been like Frankie D kicking a puppy---Earth666 stuff. Sigh--Carolyn Ann Clark--about the most reluctant 'ho I've seen on a soap. There should be honorary emmys for those actors who have withstood the scenery chewing of La Zimmer and lived to tell the tale. Honestly, I don't think Marland created a great, sustainable villain. There are short term ones like Doug Cummings and Henry Lange.

I guess what I was trying to say was that Robert Newman (while not Chris Bernau, Michael Zaslow, and IMO Jordan Clarke) was better than Marland gave him credit for. Marland treated him like Peter Boynton, ATWT's Tonio Reyes, a cardboard villain, shallow and smarmy.

You do (or at least I do) what Marland thought about Josh's turnaround/Robert Newman after Josh and Reva got huge. I don't think DM was very inspired by him either.

I don't know at what point Marland would've thought Kelly/Nola were endgame. As he said in an interview, he created Kelly/Morgan because that's what his neice wanted to see (and no doubt, to play off Scotty/Laura). Maybe he thought that would just be a summer romance, and Kelly/Nola would get involved? Then when Kelly/Morgan took off, he revamped? I don't think Marland would've ever considered Josh a guy to sweep Morgan off her feet. His Josh was a sleeze. I guess Quint could've either been a red herring where Henry's son was concerned. Or maybe a little more of a match for Vanessa as originally conceived. Instead of the purse holder he morphed into.

It's kind of hard to believe that Nadine and Maureen didn't know each other. I would've said they were about the same age in the early '90's. Then again, the soap convention would've been to make them friends, and I would've hated to see Maureen have to befriend that harridan. I'm not sure Quint was meant to be as quirky as they made him, but he had to have been slated to be Henry's son. No argument from me about Reva---but I know that's not the prevailing opinion.

It was hard for them to even work Annabelle in as a teacher. The Four Musketeers attended college for about a semester (aside from Rick's "accelerated" doctor course) and I think the next teens that went to college for any amount of time were AM/Harley/Dinah/Cam. Alex forced Henry and Quint to sell their holdings in Spaulding, claiming that the SEC was going to investigate Vanessa's kickbacks from the Jocelyn Electronics deal. But Quint was never interested in the running of Spaulding--Henry had offered to mentor him (which upset Vanessa on multiple levels) but he chose to continue his archelogy work. He was briefly a professor--Nola had a jealous snit and her "help" in the classroom was a series of calamities. I really don't think Kobe was interested in Nola and Quint. I don't think she was really interested in any of the Reardons, to be honest. She killed Jim's girlfriend, the haunting of Tony and Annabelle's cottage is lame, and Maureen was the eternal big ol' wet blanket.

They did not have a real direction for Quint after the end of his Silas Crocker mystery and he admitted he was in love with Nola played out. The Rebecca story was dumb. There was a point after Henry's heart attack that he and Vanessa started to bond, but it really didn't go anywhere.

Brittany was probably more popular in the role. It's not that Bonnie Dennison was bad, I remember the mags thinking she was good. I didn't like the stories for Daisy's "later" teen years (lol) a crush on Gus, getting pregnant by this really skeevy guy. And she was stuck in Cooperville. I don't recall her interacting much (if at all) with the Lewises, until after Beth Ehlers left. And by then it was so pronounced, I found myself asking why Daisy was calling Bill "uncle". I forget exactly when Meg went crazy....the end of '08? early '09? I think it was '09. I don't think Holden was back from the dead long before Brad died, for some reason.

Honestly, the Nicole/Vanessa fight is one of the few moments of consequence that's felt really earned since the show began. Other than some of Anita's scenes, it's easily the most memorable scene of the year.

I could see that reasoning re: Kelly/Morgan vs Nola. Especially knowing Nola was created somewhat on the fly. It is surprising Marland didn't give Vanessa stronger schemes and goals. Maybe he thought two (or three, I guess, with Diane) cold-hearted schemers was overkill, and Vanessa kind of jelled into the jealous adult woman/child. Maybe she would've headed back to Ross, as Ross and Carrie sorted out who and what they were after discovering her split personalities. I never blamed Vanessa for resenting Quint--he was such an obnoxious do-gooder, anyone would've hated him. LOL.

I get Lezlie, who always has story. (She's cheating on Justin with Mike, or something around this time.) Hillary's stories never seemed to go anywhere. I was trying to figure out why Nola or Vanessa weren't included. While Lisa had been airing for a few months (but oddly, both Kelly and Morgan are, and they must've started around the same time), Maeve probably hadn't even started airing when this was at the printers. Poor Janet Grey---that is one lousy drawing of her. Sure, Jerry looks sinister, and Stephen looks a little odd...but if they didn't list Janet's name, I don't think I could've guessed that was supposed to be her. Unless someone can think of someone else that might be.

That is one sinister interpretation of Jerry ver Dorn. LOL...just read the bottom, seeing it was in the June 28th 1980 issue. Odd that they'd have Hilary in the add and not Hope.

Roger always had a talent for manipulating women. And finding ones with daddy issues. That Christmas Eve is when they found out Beth was alive, so you can imagine she was also feeling Lujack's absence a little more keenly than usual.

Vanessa has story coming. The parasite is along for the ride, I imagine

Well, there's other warm stuff I choose not to embrace. LOL. which reminds me Lent's over, I can embrace my inner snark and piss and moan about **** with impunity!! cackle

Double post

Now I'm afraid to look at my utube feed. Eek. It's bad enough I'll see a bunch of **** crap suggested because I watch Vanessa's glory days.

It might've had something to do with Schultz's relationship/marriage to Larry Bryggman.