P.J.

Rick was also in on some plan to delay Ross. Cause he's the one that gets yelled at.

I can't explain the rationale behind never recasting Hope. Especially when they decided they needed a Bauer matriarch and brought Meta back. If viewers in the late '90s didn't know Hope, they sure as hell wouldn't have known Meta. While I'd alwayss argue a Bauer was relevant to the canvas, I really think what kept Rick around was his connection to Phillip. MOL was a fan favorite in his own right, but for most of his run, he was the foil to Phillip, intentionally or not.

Yes, it's up on utube and it's in the vault. I remember it for the Billy/Phillip scene. It's shortly after Vanessa leaves him, and it ends with Billy finding Reva/Josh and Phillip meeting India.

You're most likely right. I just associate the period with the HW. I'm terrible at remembering the rest of TIIC.

Also, remember, Long originally wanted Zas back as Alan. So with Ed/Mo on the outs (when she's inexplicably crushing on Fletcher), and if Zas had agreed to be Alan--yeah, I could see another round of Ed/Rita/Alan--and throw in a love child---HELL YEAH. I don't think it would've mattered having Peter with Lenore. Rita had been gone for nearly a decade. Peter was (if not the definitive Ed) a helluva lot better in the role than Van Vleet. I'm not sure they would've had romantic chem, but Peter probably would've been salivating to be handed such a plum story. But it didn't pan out, they ended up getting MG back, and then brought back a slew of fan faves the summer of '89.

While I never saw Kim in other roles, I can't even imagine her in some good girl/town sweetheart/scion from a good family type of character. Arguably, she'd have been a better fit as Rita, but Rita was certainly not a over-the-top emotional rip cord woman. If they were going to recast Hope closer to the 00's--Mary Beth Evans would've been good. She impressed me as Sierra on ATWT. Judith Chapman probably would have been a good Alexandra recast vs Marj Dusay. I actually like Marj, but there are times she leaned heavily into the more sitcom-ish acting. I don't know. Maybe he just didn't like the direction Ed was going after Roger's return? Because he is not a sourpuss until around Roger's return/Bridget's arrival. I've seen some where Ed is dick-ish during his separation from Mo, but under Curlee especially he just seems dour. It's just odd--the characters seem so revitalized under her, except, notably, Ed. I thought of Kate McNeil, who played Karen on ATWT. She's not technically available, she's not off ATWT until '84.

I would've loved to get Tom O'Rourke back. The scenes with Quint and Ben Murphy's character are on the 5/24/83 episode. (it's also the episode where a drunk Vanessa really rips into Nola.)

Now that you say that, Ben was on episodes of the show. He tells Quint that Rebecca had a tumor or something that led to her bizarre behavior.

That movie's awful. It would be interesting to see the ratings on it--if that was an experiment, then I assume it failed, because I can't recall any other movies tie ins being made. CBS always seemed to be a step behind; ABC was using it's primetime to tie in viewers across their schedule (I'm binging The Love Boat, and stars from their primetime make multiple appearances. About season five they threw in some of their soap stars like Lucci, Tristan Rogers and Richard Dean Anderson). Re Kobe "making a point"....you'd have thought that point would've been made already, as she'd fired Kathleen Cullen and Janet Grey. Arguably, maybe Janet wasn't as big a fan favorite as Elvera, but she'd been there longer. A big problem with the constant regime changes that when characters got "cleaned out", there wasn't a structure left to really welcome return visits. In '97, who do you bring back that adds to story? I think Don Stewart came back, didn't he? The Bauers had dwindled, and Alan-Michael wasn't there. They got Michael Tylo back, but McTrash had trashed Quint and Nola, and Vanessa's "dead". Billy's back, but Vanessa's "dead" and married to that [!@#$%^&*] lunkhead ****. '97 would have been the optimal time to bring on Stacey Chamberlain, but they couldn't even get that right...

The movie was The Cradle Will Fall. What a shitty thing to do. I'm not Elvera's biggest fan, but she deserved better than that. I'm not sure I disagree with not bringing back John for the 60th. Truth be told, one-off type returns annoy me. For example, while Adam Thorpe returned for Blake's wedding, it was to interact mostly with characters he'd never interacted with. Kelly didn't have a family base to interact with.

Oh, I vote the latter. Ain't no way Kim was aging in this time continuum. LOL.

I think Edmund's daughter's name was Lara.

Him and Gil Rogers. I guess a lot of actors moved on to other roles, but why Rusty (who's a fairly insignificant blip of a character) gets back a lot...*shrugs* I wonder if they even asked Rebecca Hollen for other events. Sigh--I'd have really been sad at the end if Vanessa had been stuck with that jerk **** for soap opera ever after.

Today is Don Hastings' birthday. God Bless Dr Bob!

Except for Gus' son Rafe. (who is arguably forgettable anyway.)

LOL...I remember Terrell Anthony (I think) said once he was demoted to the "children's table" at one of his cameos. I mostly remember Vanessa's there because she hustles away from the party to talk to Ed. If Dinah hadn't been recast or JvD had stayed, we probably wouldn't have seen Vanessa at anything other than an obligatory appearance at weddings.

Did Trish make it to the next one? 'Cause I didn't think Rebecca appeared after HB's funeral.

Lol...in the fan fic in my head, Maureen is married to one of Ross' sons. That way Ross and Vanessa will finally share a grandchild. Clarissa could have kids with either of Harley's sons, making a grandchild a Bauer or Spaulding.

Morgan would've been an excellent candidate for giving Josh a long lost child. Although God knows what later regimes would've done with her character ...probably had Amanda selling her sister's services, no doubt. Kelly and Reva? There would have a house full of mirrors. Lord knows who'd spend more time in front of them, checking themselves out. Lol. I never heard bushes. I heard public restrooms and cars sometimes.

The Lemays are recurring, and I can't even tell you the wife's name. I think they even changed the husband's name to Jim when they brought him to town in '99. Oops, my bad. I knew that. I believe Jerry tells a story about Zas mooning the cast during one of the courtroom scenes. It sounds funny, but I can imagine that kind of attitude wouldn't endear anyone to her.

Bev seems to be the type that didn't suffer fools. I'm surprised she even gave SOD the interview. By this time, she had earned the right to not sugar coat anything. She respected people as much as they respected her, and she'd felt disrespected by Phelps. There's an interview of her from Canadian TV on utube that's very interesting. (AW was huge in Canada, and this was around the time Texas! started or just after she left...I forget.)

A--it's nice to hear a reference to Hamp. B--Jim and Dylan had met. When Dylan came to town and found out Harley had given birth, he roped his girlfriend Sam into babysitting for Susan/Daisy so they could spend time with the little girl. The Lemays threw a fit when they found out. A-M kidnapped Susan/Daisy hoping run away with her and Harley, and then Dylan/Sam went on the run to avoid the police, who thought Dylan had done it. It was a major story.

I think the '02 wedding, Marah and Shayne stand up with their parents. I'm not exactly sure when Josh's wedding to Annie is--Billy might still be in jail. I think the Lorelei book kicked off P&G's brief foray into tie-in books.

Yes, the takeover is starting the fall of '87, as Reva works her way into Alan's orbit, setting Vanessa's teeth on edge and pissing off Alex. Phillip decides to be a "good little Spaulding" and take his lumps by working in Spaulding's publicity department. Alan hires Reva, but Vanessa is trying to get her out--Reva's contract needs to be approved by the board. Vanessa is sure Alex and Phillip with vote with her--but they end up voting with Alan to lull him into thinking he's secure in the chair. Alan and Vanessa's engagement almost puts a roadblock up (as Henry/Vanessa would vote as a block and keep Alan in control) but Van dumps Alan, and Henry gets Van to sign over her proxy to him. Henry knows Alan's bs'ing him about the broken engagement (telling him they will plan a wedding when Van is back) and Alex has alerted HB to the fact Alan is kissing Reva while engaged to Van. (HB of course, seems more concerned about "poor little Reva" who's knowingly kissing up Alan than Vanessa, who appears to be in the dark about all that....but I digress...) There's not a lot up in the vault from Jan-Feb-March '88, when the plan is coming together. There's episodes up around Phillip actually pulling it off though. I think the strike was from March to August, iirc.

I hadn't checked out the vault in a while, there are some new uploads. A couple are from May '83, one of which is Vanessa getting blackmailed by her PI, which I'd only seen in German...so YAY! There's always hope more will show up.