Gray Bunny

Sunday nights on FOX... I remember it well. Wasn't that their only night when they first started out in '87? I liked Herman's Head. I loved when Maureen McCormick guest-starred.... good Christ, I forgot about Babes, LOL. 90210 really helped broaden their weeknight broadcasts. I think when 90210 moved to Wednesdays, that was the first time they included Wednesday as an offering to their affiliates. Parker Lewis Can't Lose, Drexel's Class (starring Dabney Coleman) ... ah memories of my childhood. Of course, Married... with Children, Simpsons, Tracey Ullman, Duet, Open House, etc. FOX gave me my Must-See-TV growing up, with 90210 and Melrose Place, along with Party of Five, Models Inc., etc.

The high-waisted jeans above the girls' belly buttons were my favorite. Oh, and Cindy Walsh's wardrobe in general. Sigh... I'm watching this show now at work lol The first few seasons are just so wonderful

Agreed. I keep waiting for John Stamos and Rob Lowe to finally start looking haggard but they're hell bent on staying young forever. Even Don Diamont is finally starting to show his age... slowly... So sad to hear about Luke Perry. 90210 (and MP) was my childhood upbringing, watching it when I was 8 years old (probably shouldn't have been, but I've loved my dishy soapy dramas since I came out of the womb). I'll always be Team Brenda for Dylan

Yup. You said it in a nutshell. Another spinoff for LVP? LOL at the double whammy for the witchypoos. First their motives are outed episode 3; and now the one that "doesn't show up to do her job" gets rewarded yet again. Bravo knows who the fans love. Even in those WWHL polls, anything supporting LVP wins by a landslide.

Agreed. That's when the decline began for me, too. That cold, flat delivery thing she does when goes on about being offended by some dumb comment (Eileen, Teddi last year, LVP this year, etc.) has grown tired and unnecessary. At the end of the day, to quote Ramona Singer, she's just not a "girl's girl".

Agreed. Her continuous garbs of dresses that look like over-sized T-shirts are neither cute or flattering. She's a clown. Apparently "the gays" love her, but *this* gay is over the schtick.

For. Real. It definitely seemed pre-rehearsed when she so swiftly "deduced" that LVP's employees were doing her dirty work. Remember when Rinna was a good actress? Last night's eppy had me fired up, too. I'm just glad it was blatantly obvious right off the bat what Kyle, Rinna, and Teddi's motivations were. They were so thirsty to bring up this "elephant in the room" that didn't exist between LVP and Dorit. It's funny seeing that trio getting read for filth in twitterland. Kyle is so desperate to maintain her dwindling fan base. Meanwhile, it's team Vanderpump all the way. We know her, we love her, and to see this strong woman breaking down over something so personal, and then to see those hag vipers attack when she's most vulnerable is gross. And Erika's condolences letter, perfectly snap-shotted on her phone. Okay gurl... Was that photo taken in your bedroom or your husband's...?

LOL'ed at that smirk perfectly edited in at the end. Other than Erika's Krystle Carrington look in her talking heads, you could forget she was even on the episode. I enjoyed the episode overall. I appreciated the family life aspect with Rinna's daughter. I feel for Vanderpump and Ken with Giggy. I can personally understand the worry over your dogs, especially the very small delicate ones (see my toy chihuahua in my photo, my darling pride 'n joy). I wonder if this will be the year Camille is no longer revered as the former 'wife we all wish were full-time. What, with siding against Lisa Vanderpump, plus defending Brett Cavanaugh.... hmm, I dunno girl. We may need to sic the morally corrupt Faye Resnick back on her My God, that was a toxic episode. IMO, Teresa's behavior even outdid Nene at her worst or Bethenny last year. If she's trying to drive away what remains of her dwindling fanbase, that'll do the trick. She was turnt up and everyone, especially sis-in-law who still has to deal with her outside of camera life, was aghast at her ridiculous behavior. If I didn't know the circumstances of Melissa/Joe getting onto RHONJ, I'd be stanning for Melissa all the way. I *love* the way she has finally stood up for herself and her friends and basically anyone who's being treated unfairly by Teresa, Jennifer or Danielle. Unless Teresa is indeed pulling rank behind the scenes, this reunion guarantees a second year for Jackie. I too was proud and impressed and how she composed herself and came back with amazing retorts to Teresa (appreciated the "yes man" quip towards Dolores too). Teresa was ugly, insensitive, and stupid as all hell. God, she is SO dumb. Would Bravo finally be open to axing the last-standing OG of RHONJ? Tre's all up in arms over Jackie, when the real threat at dethroning her is Margaret, whose personality is fun and fresh, and she provides a NEW family dynamic, versus Tre's tired old crap from the last 9 years. Jennifer also went below the belt and you could see on her face she knew when she stepped out of line about Marge Sr. and people's children. BTW: Margaret's facelift looks great. Can't wait for next week!

Teddi looks like such a poser trying to be a big name bully. She's a nerd at heart and looks goofy trying to act badass.

... and once THEIR bank accounts are hit, some may finally see the light. At least, that's what's happened with my father. My dad flip-flops, mostly due to economic or financial reasons. He voted for Clinton in '92 and Obama in '08, but voted for Mitt Romney in '12 and would've voted for Trump in '16 if he had voted at all (at least that's what he told me; he may very well have voted). We've had a few heated arguments since that fateful day in late October 2016 when that bogus "email scandal" conveniently came back to light. He's on the Fox News bandwagon and anti-anything where there's a woman in charge (Hillary first, now he suddenly has issues with Nancy Pelosi having a fence around her own house...). However, just this past week as I visited my parents, he was on the phone telling off a conservative party representative pandering for more money, telling the poor fool on the phone that he no longer supports the conservative party because --- yup --- he now OWES 8K in taxes this year, something he's never faced in years and years. So all the other horrible, despicable, inhumane acts of the Republican party didn't raise a red flag for him until it affected his own pocketbook. P.S. I too was raised in a very strong Lutheran household...

100% agree and I didn't think I'd warm to Jennifer. Meanwhile, Jackie indeed became a non-factor. And with Teresa's blind loyalty to Danielle and Margaret's overall charm, humor, and ability to be friends with anyone (except Danielle), she was definitely this year's MVP. Plus, I love her family life and the openness she gives about their contentious backstory. And shoot, even Melissa endeared me this season (though I still will always give her and hubby the side-eye for the slimy way they joined the show...) . I agree, I like almost all of them and everyone looks great! Great makeup, hair and dresses. LuAnn's is my fave too.

https://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-11/videos/the-rhony-season-11-taglines-are-here NYC taglines are here! And they all got updated shots. They look great! Side Note: Bethenny does not have the last tagline; Dorinda does!

I love how NYC can still crank out hilarious catch phrases and remarks just by being themselves.

no worries. I know we both love our Big Apple bitches

And I'm totally cool with that. I'd actually love for her to have as much presence as Danielle has on New Jersey, even WITH talking heads. Re: NJ, as mentioned up thread, I am one who does NOT think Margaret is suffering the second season curse at all. We haven't had a real breakout newbie from New Jersey since Teresa's family joined in season 3. Yeah, Dolores is okay, but Margaret has personality and humor. Her one lil "mail order bride" comment was nothing to get all pissy about. Instead, it feels like Jennifer's "outrage" against Margaret and Jackie is producer-coaxed. Like "hey, you gotta cause conflict with your co-stars or else you won't last another season." Very forced, IMO. OMG the Countess... Everyone looks great.

:::knock knock::: yasss! The NYC queens return! No newbie, no official Jill return, just the core six with one loss from last year. Looks fun!

Nah, quite the opposite. Once season 5 hit, you had Roseanne & Jackie steady at the diner. Eventually by end of 5th, you had Dan working at the city garage. I'm talking about plots that squarely focus on money struggles. So much of these new episodes focus on it. Look at the rundown of season 6 by comparison... Darlene moving to college... Jackie sleeping with Fred... Jackie knocked up by Fred while Roseanne suddenly wanted a baby of her own... schmoozing to Florence Henderson (mother of "Elijah Minelli") for restaurant products at cost... finding old marijuana and smoking it ("is this the sink? am I shrinking?") ... Phyllis Zimmer having lunch with Dan and Roseanne getting pissed... NuBecky and Mark returning while Dan has a highschool football reunion... DJ crashing their car and Roseanne spanking him... DJ and Darlene outsmarting Roseanne when DJ is skipping school... the gay bar episode with Murielle Hemmingway locking lips with Roseanne... okay enough of recapping season 6. You get the point. Them struggling was a reason why they were in the situations they were in (not being able to afford Becky's dress for the dance; Roseanne sweeping hair at the salon, etc.), but not the plot itself.

I liked this past week's show, but I wish they'd take the focus off the constant struggle of money / jobs / bills / medical needs. The original was never this heavy about it ALL the time. They had plenty of other things they'd joke about, fight about, etc.

Atta girl Margaret! Usurp Melissa's spot as the important lead.

I like that their Christmas tree and decorations are still up, haha. I don't know if it's because they're airing these out of order of how they filmed them, or if they're just subtly saying the family is too lazy to take it all down right away.

To be fair, it was one of the first things (levitating). She first levitated on Christmas Eve 1994. The show ended on that note and picked up the next episode with her still levitating. She didn't do it again until around May when they all walked in on her doing it (haha, that sounds funny) - John, Kristen, Stefano, Tony... right after John found Kristen on the rooftop of the penthouse building.

Oh man, that's pretty funny. I think it's around Season 3, judging from the hair, makeup etc.

I'm in agreement with all things New Jersey. This is one of their best seasons in a loooong time, but it is weird not having Danielle talking heads just to try to understand the crazy that goes on inside her stretched head. And yes, Jennifer is all sorts of irrelevant and uninteresting. I still like Dolores, but she's riding too hard for Teresa's famb-il-y. Jackie is a strong new addition, and Margaret continues to be full of win. I didn't mind the Debbie Downer comment(s) about the rain; it was Danielle's over-the-top offended reaction that was too much. Danielle and her man have already split, right?

I felt the same while watching. Their old-school trailer trash is stopping in for a visit, plus we get to see plenty of LVP. And of course, the forever fan favorite Camille Donatacci Grammer! Of course, after the past few seasons, we fear a letdown, yet there's always a sparkle to BH that draws me in.

Hush, lol. I said that because the Gentry bar closed over 10 years ago when I was just a wee lil baby gay