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"Roseanne's Family." "The Conner Family." Where's Sandy Duncan when you need her to keep the show going? I suppose Roseanne owns too much of the show, though...

I'm very disappointed to say the least. "Love the sinner, hate the sin," but damn lady, I can't stan for you anymore...

I'd have to disagree there. The numbers were still phenomenal for 2018, and political discussion was only showcased for one single episode.

I want to compare them to a Porsha (dumb) versus Sheree (broke), but they're both broke. I'm amazed at how dumb Robyn is.

She sure did and Bethenny said she'd give Omarosa 10K if she were correct. I wonder if she ever paid up.

I have grown to love this "Christmas at Dorinda's at The Berzerkshires" tradition. As a total Christmas whore, the holiday porn is total heavenly overload for me, lol. I enjoyed the lightheartedness with Dorinda, Carole, and Ramona. First of all, I'm *finally* giving a damn about Carole. Secondly, it's funny to see her and Ramona finally getting along (Carole used to be so dismissive of loopy Pinot Singer). I concur with you all in that Bethenny has met her match in a verbal smackdown against Carole. Carole isn't getting flustered and tongue-tied as the rest of them do. She's remaining calm, standing her ground, and making her point heard. Bethenny's responses weren't even solid answers and made her look stubbon, determined to be mad at Carole for something, no matter if she pinpoints exactly why or not. Sonja getting rid of some pets is a step in the right direction, I guess. It'll help with the upkeep, or lack thereof, with her house. Her new talking head is much more flattering; she looks like she was born anatomically female again.

I hope next season will help fill in the gaps of the last 20 years, such as Andy, Jerry, The Lunchbox, Leon, etc. Another thing about Crystal which was pretty much forgotten about except for that one episode in season 6 - she is married to Dan's father. I'm assuming Ed died in the last 20 years. I always thought it strange when Dan mentioned "I haven't spoken to my dad in 2 years," at Darlene/David's wedding, when Ed was supposedly living right there in Lanford with Crystal since they got married. Side note: I wonder how Crystal's son Lonny turned out?

Potomac Season 3 has mastered what makes juicy, salacious, messy reality TV so good. This show is giving me everything Beverly Hills didn't. Other than watching Kim Zolciak die at the reunion, Atlanta was pretty ho-hum this year too. Thank goodness we have New York and Potomac to lift our spirits in Spring as we head into sunny summer. I really need to do a google search on Ashley's husband's gay dalliances abroad... unless someone here knows the Cliffs Notes?

What's the tea? I haven't the energy to follow Twitter wars and back 'n forth threads.

Potomac was SO good on Sunday. I echo what everyone else said. Love the Young Bucks vs. Geriatrics. The 3 youngsters have such a great fun camaraderie. Thank goodness we have Ashley on this show to stir the tea, bridge the communication gaps, plus showcase her own real-life drama. I am finally coming around to finding Gizelle an annoying hater. Her tagline is dripping with irony because nobody's talking about her. Her romance (is the dude checked out already?) isn't the topic of discussion, her kids are doing fine. What IS the word on the street about her? Nothing. Oh Monique, your drinking habits are starting to resemble some of our favorite New York City ladies. Hire a nanny, grieve the loss of your unborn baby, and slow down. I'm anticipating a friendship breakdown with Monique vs. Charriissee down the line. Charriissee will side with the old hags and resent Monique for siding with the younger, prettier enemy.

Oh I'll never stop enjoying my dislike of that couch stain. But you summed up exactly why she's perfect as a "friend of": no personal or interesting life, but can stir up drama among the main housewives. The fact that she has history with the "elders" of this series helps make her personal digs more biting.

This is a great group of women to love-to-hate That wig sliding off was LOL hilarious.... Charrriiisssee still has that perpetual sleepy stank face.... Robyn paying someone for decorations that are pretty basic & standard is a waste of money that should be saved.... Ashley's problem is the only organic problem on the show (well, the Hugers' money woes are real too, but someone is being evasive about the whole ordeal) .... Monique continues to be fabulous.... Candace (I'm not spelling it however she does) is cute but is too thirsty to reveal too much about her personal life, her finances, her man's brown dong, etc. This doesn't charm you?

Finally caught up on NYC. I'm sticking with Team Dorinda. I don't find her to be a mean drunk, but rather a blunt drunk. It's got to be exasperating, whether drunk or sober, to put up with Sonja's delusions about her own life and the frivolous mean-nice chatter that Sonja blurts out. Very telling that Ramona now considers to be closer to LuAnn than Sonja. OMG, Carole. Great, you ran a marathon. So have I. So have thousands upon thousands of others. You got a toast and a cake. Now shut up.

That's remarkable. These days, high numbers for reruns is something only CBS shows can boast (who knows, maybe half their viewers forgot seeing it the first time 'around...). She was close to No. 1 every single half-hour.

Call of death for Kim Zolciak Biermann: Sunday, April 22nd 2018 at 8:59 ET / 7:59 CT. That was one of the most satisfying reunions I have ever had the pleasure of watching. Every single person (except Sheree, who's next on the chopping block) came for Kim, which was loooooooooong overdue. I was so proud of Cynthia throwing out those zingers as sloth continued her side digs about Cynthia being irrelevant or coming to others' defenses. You could totally tell Cynthia was through being nice to sloth and came right out with the rest of 'em, reading her for filth and making zero apologies about doing so. NeNe, Kenya, Kandi, Cynthia hell even Porsha. They all came for Kim and had the receipts (and Bravo had the clips!) to back it up. It was delicious. Reality TV trash at its finest. And I gotta give props to Porsha (whom I've never been a fan of) for calling out Sheree for trying to dodge being in the hot seat when they called her out for not being loyal, failing at her "bone collector" job, etc. Porsha's quips and cheeky smirk at the end was brilliant. Wow, those stupid racist comments at the end, when all of Wig's chips were down... that'll be her undoing. God-willing. "She has to get back to Tardy for the Party!" lol I hope it's the last season that dies a slow painful ratings death on a Friday night.

Finally caught up on Beverly Hills. Wow, what a lackluster season finale. Kyle is a victim again, wash-rinse-repeat. A fight that stems last year's flimsy "pantygate" storyline. Oy. Ladies and producers, y'all gotta pull this show back together before it comes a non-factor like New Jersey. I know they've got it in them. They've got the star power and recognition. They just need to stop worrying about fan reaction and thinking of the newest gif-worthy moment in their talking heads.

Ah heck yeah! Can't wait

POTOMAC: Meanwhile, I can't fault Ashley for stirring the pot (for the sake of the show) without being a nasty friend (Gizelle and sidekick). The new dynamic revealed about her mother is interesting and organic. Now that we know the whole deal, Ashley needs to serve her mother a strong ultimatum: the dead-beat man leaves or you're cut off from your son-in-law's money. Robyn is indeed the most foolish housewife around. Right up there with Jesus Jugs. Monique can do no wrong in my eyes. She married well, has a fun, positive energy, and gorgeous. No wonder the elder castmembers gotta hate. I wonder if we'll learn more about Monique's hubby's relationship with his mom. It's good to see that his father showed up for the birthday event, even with the crusty mother staying at home. NYC: Absolute beauty. I loved last night's show in the Hamptons. Again, love the dynamic of these 7 women who have genuine relationships with one another. Love seeing Luann and Bethenny on each other's side again. Love seeing a common ground between Luann and Ramona as they see Sonja going off the rails again. It's sad but completely understandable to know the "Ramonja" friendship has taken a backseat in recent years, but who can blame Ramona? Even she is more level-headed and grounded than sloppy Sonja. Just when I thought Sonja had found clarity, we see she's more delusional and rambles on nonsensically worse than ever before. Dorinda is gonna go IN on Sonja next week and I cannot wait. Sonja is really making an ass of herself. Oh, and the switching dynamics of Bethenny/Carole as Carole migrates towards Tinsley will be juicy. I liked the open honesty of how Bethenny explained that no matter what Luann says or does, Carole will automatically discredit Luann simply because it's Luann. Just as Bethenny will always question Ramona's "sincerity" when she shows kindness or Rapologizes. I'm actually finding myself liking Tinsley a lot more this season. It really helps that she's developed actual friendships with other castmembers, versus other younger castmembers who were just kinda there (Jules, Kristen). I hope we get to see more Dale. P.S. Whatever makeup/hair magic Ramona's glam team is working, keep on doing it. Well done!

Currently, I'm not looking at the "politics" of it; I'm looking at the characterization. But, as others have pointed out, people can change over the years in real life, and therefore fictional characters can change over time as well. Most people probably aren't dissecting the nuances of the characters, but being here on SON where we dissect our soap characters, I'm dissecting the "Roseanne" characters, as I'm one you could consider a die-hard fan of the series.

Exactly. P.S. It's potpourri, dear

I agree about it going against Roseanne's character. There's a few characteristics they're forgetting from the original. As you said, Roseanne was against spanking because her own father used physical violence against her (something they didn't introduce until the 4th season, but it still remained throughout the series). Also, in the first episode of this reboot, the family prayed. The Conners were never a religious family. See the Season 6 episode titled "I Pray The Lord My Stove to Keep." DJ discovers religion and asks what religion they are and Dan spouts off all the different denominations of their families. DJ: So what are we? Roseanne: Uh... we believe in being good. So basically we're good people. Dan: Yeah, but we're not practicing. The only time I recall them praying was after they won the lottery, which didn't happen after all. One other tidbit I'm not fond of is dumbing down the characters because they're from small-town, USA. Roseanne, Jackie etc. were always aware enough to know how to pronounce something like "fabergé egg."

That WWHL was a total shi* show and I loved every moment. It's the one time I wish WWHL was an hour so he could actually ask a few questions for each Housewife, past and present. Here's my take on Rinna vs. Vanderpump... I think they both actually like riffing on one another. Rinna's can sometimes come off as mean-spirited, and granted I have not checked out any her social media stuff where she bashes LVP, but I think they actually like the banter, especially LVP. I think they actually really had a fun time during Rinna's first season and the start of her second (remember when they took that trip together to check out that busted up pony?). I just love the delicious side eye Vanderpump gives Rinna when she's in the room. If Rinna *is* truly mean-spirited towards LVP and still has a geniune ax to grind (or just bubbling jealousy), it certainly doesn't phase LVP in the least at this point.

Tonight’s WWHL in LA has Dorinda and “a night of 31 doorbells” so it sounds like a Housewives extravaganza coming through the door!

I echo what y'all have said re: Kenya vs. Marlo and Sheree vs. anyone. Marlo's tired ass already seemed played out when she uttered her first dig at Kenya. Yawn. Kenya for the win. Sheree losing a competency test against Porsha is when you know your goose is cooked. They all called Sheree to task for her inaction with Kim and she was a bumbling idiot who tried and failed at deflecting. And the She by Sheree? Honey, give it up. Andy keeps asking you because "She by Sheree" and "Who Gon' Check Me Boo?" are the only things you're remembered for. Next time he asks, tell him plans are on hold indefinitely or completely done or SOMETHING. But instead, she gives lame ass responses about new lines coming out next season. Stop. "WHERE IS YOUR SCOOTER?" OMG, that line from Nene in next week's show had us ROLLING. Next week should be good!

That's how I see it. Granted, I think she looks like a damn fool being so coy and saying one thing, but the camera shows other things. Or just not being honest and clear. But whatevs, it creates drama for this goofy show. In terms of how she protected herself financially, major props to her. You keep on going with your separate bank account and separate tax filings. You never know what tomorrow will bring.