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It would. Naturally and organic through characters that do it or good actors. Look at Maxie. Still had the seriousness that scene needed, but Maxie was still hilarious. And yet...there's been a lot of that this year on the show of things that are right there in front of the writers and yet they don't take the better, organic and more soapy way to do it. Which is a shame because some of those boyfriends had real potential.

Oh yes!!! People have been mentioning it here and there. I can't wait to arrive at those scenes myself. Sooooooooooo excited. I would be down for a quad. He needs to be getting ready for the murder mystery that might wind up coming his way. But I digress...lol. It isn't a nice feeling at all. But remember...rejection is projection. He needs to be getting ready for the murder mystery that might wind up coming his way. But I digress...lol. It isn't a nice feeling at all. But remember...rejection is projection.

OOPS. Not Reading Rainbow...

4 months to go. Wow.

I I agree. MM has been for the most part better since his return. But he still has his moments as I sit here and play catch-up. And he definitely gets on fire when he's with AL and ZS. Well I am only ahead because I fell sick and had time. And lord has it been a chore. Ugh. Again. Happy for your oncoming break though.

I have. Often. Short version...slapsticky humor...which usually in the case of this show is out of place in the context of the show. A good example...during the Holly/Sasha reveal...that was new information for the audience and SHOULD have been played straight and serious to even get the audience on the writers' side. INSTEAD it was being played silly, perhaps campy, and Holly being glib about it...that is slapsticky. Compare the above to Holly's next day scenes where she was telling Felicia and Maxie about the Holly reveal and that was played on screen completely straight and serious. Holly had mixed emotions over it, Felicia was trying to be a good friend, and Maxie was there for some snark and glib that was not at all out of place and IN character. It was giving soap. And in the overall context of the show...did not feel out of place at all. That is what I mean when I say 'wacka wacka' humor. Very. It can be maddening at times because they actually do have some good things. It really does. You get me! Thank you.

NY The fact that I can sum it up in one word is saddening. Whimper. I liked that Rebecca was finally opening up more. And that she finally was checking Brynn. And then last week, they save their confrontation to this week. And that ended in a bit of whimper. I would say for now. Cuz the vibe that Rebecca was giving was that she would be watching Brynn moving forward AND would pounce if she kept on with what she was doing by coming for her. Then the other cast members trying to keep this growing feud going was a case of them sensing they didn't have anything to show on this trip. There was also Raquel finally meeting her mother after six years. And THAT was good. It showed so much. It also continued why Raquel was a good addition to this cast that was giving nothing on this trip. The setting itself was giving more than I felt the cast was. Now the next new episode though...? THAT looked good. But...another misstep.

RHOP Another lowkey episode with a great cliffhanger. But like I've been saying about a lot of things this week and last...still enjoyable, but the momentum this season had has been lost. Personally, I believe that the momentum will blow up again since La Dame vs Mia is in play still and we still have the cast trip coming. So this episode was a little bit of everything. I've already said that I loved how this season was allowing the ladies to have their own stories, and they were being threaded throughout the season. However, this one felt like filler. And it made it feel uneven. But thankfully Jacqueline was trying to be relevant which gave an overarching arc throughout the episode. La Dame wanted to have a couple event. Jacqueline wasn't invited. So of course when Mia mentioned she might come by herself, she was going to invited Jacqueline around. That thirst was real. It was good to keep the episode anchored to something, but still... LA DAME. It is weird to comment on her in light of what's going on with her in real life. But pre-that, it was nice to see her setting up for a HW event. And she was in her bag by not inviting Jacqueline, being there for Stacey, and feuding with Mia. And there was the talk. The one she had with Ray. It was interesting to see her feeling a way about him...only for her stuff to be exploding in real life where he was being a good husband like she had been a good wife during his tax issues. GIZELLE. You know what? I thought Gizelle was joking in interviews when she mentioned that she was still seeing guys she met during the speed dating cuz GIZELLE. So I was HAPPY to see her on her date with Hot Chocolate!!!! I about fell out. Girl DOES have a type. And just watching Gizelle was something different for her. And how oblivious she seem to be to the fact that the guy was devouring her with his eyes. He really seem into her!!! I was like...how does she not see it??? lol. And then she took him to the couples event. Gizelle...is giving. ASHLEY. And not to be outdone, Ashley brought her Jack Harlow. And if Ashley is going to do anything, it'll be get a dig in at Karen. WENDY. Not a thing to say. Sadly. STACEY. lol. Everyone coming for Stacey and TJ was something else. I can't decide if they are trying to open her eyes or just give her more drama for the show. And it was nice to see Stacey's aunt to flower out this relationship between Stacey and TJ. KEIARNA. HELLLLLLLLLLLL-HO, KEIARNA'S BROTHER!!!!! YES, PLEASE!!! Outside of that, Greg continues to come across as someone who doesn't want to be filmed. I continue to feel that will be the potential conflict for Keiarna as an individual storyline. MIA. God, I hate that blond on her. And I loved everyone getting in on her because she came to the couple event without G OR Inc. Of course, I felt she was going to use Jacqueline as her date, but I guess we will see more next year when the next new episode airs. Last new episode on a whimper.

Your mom ain't the only one who swoons. And like Antoyne said...when Isaiah actor gets that look...mmmm *swoons* I admit that as much as it seem like Drew is being written into a corner, CM is making him very love to hate. CM hasn't played Drew like Drew was since he appeared in that prison with all that scruff. So if they are going to do something with Drew....at least we are getting Drew Q. And there was some development to this point. And yes, CM has great antagonistic chemistry with SB's Jason. Love that the simmer it had throughout the year has finally started to boil over and the Qs are right in the middle of it. Then again...whoever wins against Jason?

Agree. I wil at least said the cgi did not look bad in the Ian/Jordan flashback. But it's an eyesore otherwise.

You would. 😜 Grateful, unless he is involved with She of the Beautiful Dark Locks, I want to say that I'm in the DisLike Sonny crew...but I will admit he only seems to get me out of that crew when he's in scenes with Dante ONLY. It probably was. It was the first time they gave Gio something different to play and it gave the first sign of organic conflict between Gio and Trina if the writers were planning on putting them together which is why those scenes stood out. Gio definitely idolizes Sonny while Trina's friendship with Ava runs deep. Once Gio learned the Sonny/Ava history, he felt a way about Ava getting him to work at the art gallery when he was looking for exposure.

Yeah, that at least is still clear...her love for Jason and Carly. They would probably mess it up, but one can dream. Yay! Good to hear. That might be because most writers...or at least their ideas...do have certain characteristics that can stand out...for better or for worse. I've mentioned for a while things that I liked and things that I don't like in the writing style since the New/Old Writers have taken over. And as the weeks and months have gone by, some characteristics do stand out. And I thought it was very interesting over the last day or so, episodes that have EK's name at the top of the episode have a certain bit of characteristics to them (for me scenes with more emotional resonance as I said yesterday) versus when CVE's have a certain bit of characteristics which happen to be most (note...not all) of the things that have bugged me a bit (as I call it the wacka wacka slapsticky humor) about the style in the writing. But that's me with my writer hat on and picking on me not picking up on that before the last day or so. But my posts stand for themselves so I ain't about to go over every detail of my reasoning since it's just a page or two back. Liberty was simply responding. And I also thought it would be nice now that the New/Old Writers have been there for a good minute to have a discuss on them and their 'individual' episodes so to speak. Regardless of the breakdown writers and script writers, the plotting is still noticeable enough to be noticed IMHO. So depending on writers' name does make a difference.

Oh, yes, I've been down an online hole on it as I'm formatting and watching a movie. The backlash she's getting for those videos. I'm speechless and shocked. I don't even want to post them here. And I can't even watch the Thomas Jefferson one. But yes, she looks horrible. AND the reunion has not filmed. And I guess we know it will definitely film before her sentencing on January 29th. They are going to tear her apart.

RHOP Wow...they released the Body cam of the DUI, too?

12-16 Oh my God! Don't tell me that Mariah is about to get a story. Not that it's the first time she's been kidnapped. lol. I'm happy they played the beat of Alan hypnotized Sharon. And yes...another plot movement in Sharon remembering that she did not run the Giggly Heffa off the road. Finally something!!! And I liked that Sharon is willing to do it again to see if Heather was really killed by her. Go on plot...THICKEN. That said...I could have done without those Jordan/Ian flashbacks and that horrible cgi, but at least it explains how they came together. It should have just been done sooner than now. Billy and the Giggly Heffa was background noise until she gave Billy a reason to back down from losing to fighting Victor. That resonated actually. And we know how I feel about Billy and his woe is me act.

RHOP

Yeah, it seems like all the soaps lost their November momentum. It's sad to watch.

Meh. He stays having 'issues' with Jack. He can go away.

Isn't that what she's 'known' for? I wouldn't mind. I liked that one week where there was an episode of Gio/Trina talking and there was a spark. And then the episode before that was a scene where Trina/Kai were talking...no writing gimmicks...and they had a little spark too. So I feel it's possible and I would love to see Trina in the middle for a change.

Indeed. You're right. I meant EK. Haven't had my sarced coffee as of yet. lol.

Oh, lord...don't tell me they are trying to pit Kyle against Billy already.

12-13 Uneven. But I guess if I had to choose after playing unexpected catch-up on this past week how I would go with ER vs CVE as lead, I am going to have to go with ER with her Carly stan self. Because the episodes where her name is lead in the credits usually have some form of emotional resonance to their writing regardless of the stupid stuff that runs through both of their writings. I don't like the 'Where's Charlotte' storyline, but I did like the Dante/Lulu scenes. AB played that mix of feisty Spencer, being a friend to Dante over being in love with Sam now, and of course adjusting to it all very well. And I felt those scenes were allowed to breath as two people who loved each other once trying to relate to each other again. Love the fallout scenes at Q Manor. And as I saw mentioned...yes, Tracy and Ned's reactions were the total highlights. I also enjoyed them ripping Drew to shreds. I enjoyed Carly going off. I felt Michael was the weak link in some good scenes. He only brought it at the end. And speaking of stupid stuff in the writing? Of course, I'm talking about that sharp return to the wacka wacka humor 'style' just forced into all the above good scenes per Ava, Ric, and Lucas. As I was wondering what was going on Ava, Ric, and the bounced cards...in walks Lucas. And I rolled my eyes at the rl meet-cute cuz MW and VH were ATWT actors though duh they are related on this show...taking me out of scene. Cuz again, did they really have this many scenes under OldLucas? But the revelation that the reason Carly is broke is because of the Cassandines can only mean Nik is being petty OR Val is coming. RME. And silly continued with Trina and Kai. They just can't do gradual on this show, can they? Like seeing Trina. Those scenes were bad. So Dex is dead, dead. And I found the Joss/Anna scenes where Anna just popped up, though she had been at the hospital weirdly jarring. And EM was oddly underwhelming. But Liz's face when she realized that what was happening with Dex is the same as what went down with Sam was priceless. And Nina/Willow vs Carly as the coda. Can't say I hate that. A classic Friday cliffhanger cuz it's Nina vs Carly really...with kids in the middle after a good fallout. Overall, a good week though. Does that (scarily) make ER the stronger writer? LOL!!! Them facts. And it's funny you said that about O'Connor given what I just wrote. And perhaps it is just because I had the idle time to notice the writing style after all this time of watching and observing, but yeah, I definitely have grown to dislike CVE's writing style. And now it's a case of two evils here lol.

Okay, I vaguely remember that last part, but thank you both for the tea all the same. So they really were sitting on a possible story that wrote itself per usual (Trina/Gio) and just kept making things up then. Same.

It seem like he might be Trina's new love interest to me, but they rarely played them together and lost the potential for organic conflict with them on different sides of Sonny vs Ava with his loyalty and history to Sonny and her history and friendship to Ava. But I do wonder if that was really the original plan. I would be curious.