Juliajms

What's your point?

I lived in Tampa (well, Brandon) for about 6 years and never noticed. Not sure I would have put it together though. Haven't noticed it here in Nebraska, but I'll be looking now.

Click on your own name. From the drop down menu pick "ignore user". Then type in the user name. Unless that was a rhetorical question. I couldn't tell.

This situation in Aleppo is horrific. It's really sad to know that people needed a place to go and we have barely lifted a finger to do our part.

We are so f*cked.

Ugh. I'm watching CNN, why do they give Richard Spencer so much airtime. You can report on what's happening without showing him speaking. I'm glad Whitefish Montana has rejected him, but do we need to keep seeing him?

Looks like the people who thought Trump was screwing with Mitt were probably right. I can't feel bad for the man. Maybe his heart was in the right place and maybe it wasn't, but I'm not feeling sorry for anyone kowtowing to Trump for power.

@Khan Well, you aren't disliked by me. I'm not necessarily surprised that white women are racist. I got my undergrad degree in Virginia and lived in Tampa for awhile, so yeah, I've seen it. I'm surprised that more white women didn't respect themselves enough to try to smack down the virulent misogyny he represents. Yet, here we are and I wonder if any amount of facts will change that in four years. I feel like I've watched the unraveling of a society based on reason and fact.

Trump also didn't have a single thing to offer black women. He offered non white males the continued power of the patriarchy and white women continued white privilege. Really it was more like the illusion of those things, but people fell for it. I still can't believe so many white women voted for this man, but it does tell you the state of feminism in this country. It's pretty damn sad. I guess some people don't mind that they are completely disrespected as long as they can believe they aren't at the bottom of the totem pole.

And the sad thing is if the US does get nuked, it will probably be the end of human life on our planet. Trump may not know what the nuclear triad is, but his cadre of generals do. At least most of us in the US (except victims of voter suppression) had some voice in who became president, the rest of the world didn't.

I'm pretty sure Trump is Steve Bannon's puppet. It's hard to believe he came up with his nationalist agenda on his own. I read some article on how Steve Bannon sees the world, after that I could see his fingerprints on so much of what Trump says at those f*cking rallies.

I really wonder if the planet will ever recover from the Trump administration. The stuff with social security is almost as scary. I just feel really sad for the very young, the old and disabled right now. Anyone vulnerable is about to get screwed. At least those of us who are able bodied can usually figure something out.

OK, so then what was the median income of Trump voters? It seems to me people want to scapegoat the poor even though the facts don't support that.

The people who live in trailers, get foodstamps, medicare and disibility deserve what they are going to get. I'm just saying there is a big difference between blue collar workers and people living in poverty. The poor aren't really known for voting in large numbers which is why they are always getting screwed. I disagree. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/

Who would move to NYC and take a position making $70,000 though? You do that when you are 22 and have a degree and are willing to sacrifice to get ahead. People who aren't wealthy move and commute when they want to have families. Same as SF. I had coworkers who would drive two hours just to get to work when I lived there because they were married and didn't want pay $3,000 a month for an apartment. I don't think many of these people were Trump voters. Do you vote to burn it all down when you have hope? I don't know. I guess I just have to stop trying to figure out exactly how and why this happened and just accept that it did and here we are.

You're preaching to the choir friend. I think it's pretty decent money as well. If you want to make more than that you are probably going to have to have a marketable degree in most cases. Plus you have to figure these people are living in the rust belt, so it's not like they are living in a high cost of living area for the most part. I see a lot of people on twitter railing against "trailer park trash" for voting for Trump, but I'm pretty sure that's a misconception. It's not the working poor who put Trump in the white house, it's the blue collar middle class. Also, I think more educated republicans (including white women) voted for Trump then people originally thought would. Sadly, I think it's the poor who will really be hurt the most, not that Trump will be doing anything for the middle class either. I think the best we can hope for is that we avoid a stock crash and ensuing great recession part two.

One thing that struck me is that the average Trump voter had an income of something like $70,000. So it's not like it's necessarily the people who lost their jobs were voting for him or if they did they found new ones that pay a living wage. Once I saw that number my sympathy for these people evaporated. But at the same time more than those people voted for Trump. He couldn't have won otherwise.

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I feel like they are going to do a lot of dirt and get away with most of it.

Here's some good news. Biden's "cancer moonshot" bill was passed. If you read the details it's not all good news, but I'm still happy for him and I think this was an overall win. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/joe-biden-cancer-moonshot-bill-232342

^ Totally agree. Any time they cross that line into violence they need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. I know that I can't fully understand what black people go through when it comes to these groups, but I do take my child to the Jewish community center most days. You can bet after what happened in Kansas there are days when I've sat in my car and wondered if it's really right to take him to a high value target. I'm more afraid of a white supremacist with a gun than I am a jihadist. Still, I get that I have a choice and no one is going to randomly assault us at Target because of our skin color.

I guess I believe they have the right to exist. Isn't the whole point of the 1st amendment to defend thought and speech we not only disagree with, but may find abhorrent? Recently, it's certainly crossed my mind that I wouldn't mind following the European model of restricting hate speech, but at the same time seeing Trump in charge makes me wary of restricting people's 1st Amendment rights. Also, in the age of the internet I don't know how we could stop them from existing even if we were inclined to do so.

^ Yeah, it seems like a mistake to let 1 million people in and then put a restriction on their religion. I read she's trying to send 10% of them back, but still.

In other news, Angela Merkel is calling for a ban on the burqa: http://www.theatlantic.com/liveblogs/2016/12/news-today/509687/12272/?utm_source=atltw

I agree with you and I think it has happened all over the country. Sure, it's a little more shocking in places like NYC where you think people are more cosmopolitan. However, I've lived in many parts of this country and there was a pretty strong veneer of acceptance for the most part. Of course racism is always there, but now it's emboldened. People are just flat out coming out with it with no sense of shame and they even feel justified in committing acts of violence.