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Not exactly on topic, but has anyone ever clarified JKJ status? Is Phillip not ever coming back lol?

I mean, obviously, it's not the norm for a couple to have that disparity in looks/physique/whatever on a soap. Not that I don't think PD isn't attractive or anything, but KS is a very good looking guy. But I got onboard with Craig loves Nancy and everything about her because that what was shown onscreen. I could maybe buy Nancy keeping her head in the sand about this because she was so happy she had a hot husband, but that's not Nancy. She was confident, secure, funny, intelligent and never cared about what people said. These are fictional characters but to make Nancy's whole romantic life a lie really sucks for her. That's devastating. Whether Craig is gay or bi or whatever he owed his life partner (who I assume he does love) the respect of telling her he was confused or attracted to men because he obviously didn't wake up at 55 one day to being gay. I have no problem with this particular story being told but it really does [!@#$%^&*] on 2 characters that were fine as is. This feels like a story for shock value more than an organic story and I don't think we are going to get much of Nancy's POV. Could you imagine being 55, 60 whatever age Nancy is supposed to be and starting over in the romance department? That would be an interesting story, but we know the story is going to be Craigs wacky hijinks with Leo or some [!@#$%^&*]

No worries. I just thought you were saying everyone that liked Nancy and Craig were regular women having fantasies. And true to life my husband of 15 years is on the bigger size and sometimes people ask me why I am with him, so that's a little triggering for me. Looks aren't everything...but that wig still needs an intervention

That's seems very rude. Not directing that at you specifically. I am a slim white women that appreciated that representation. But of course people will think its fat housewives🙄

I don't know. I don't want to offend anyone but I find this story soooo disappointing. Not because Craig's gay. That's fine. But because I really liked what Nancy and Craig represented. They were were a love story that went beyond looks and it's seems demeaning to end it this way. Not because of Craig's journey which should be told, but because of what they previously represented. Listen, they suddenly wouldn't make John or Steve gay. It feels cheap to make Nancy the patsy on this not knowing her husband was gay for like 75% of her life and also because she is regular size. Craig can go out and find a foxy man, but Nancy gets left with the wreckage. It feels a little gross. I may not be saying this right but it just makes me feel for Nancy and her bad wig lol. It just feels like of course the heavy girl's hot husband was gay all along. Half the cast of Days bings all the time as gay/bi/fluid and they make it about this couple.🙄

Have you tried to watch the content he creates? I can't even watch it enough to find out his new job. So someone spoil me. Real Estate/Flipping? Online re-selling? Branding his own product for cbd? Crypto trading? All of the above? I mean, he probably shouldn't have 'passed' on Beyond Salem lol

It's been a long time, but I do think when they introduced Craig they said he was a cheater and married his wife for her money. But they backtracked on that once they cast PD as Nancy. There was talk from Nancy taking away her daddy's money if Craig wasn't chief of staff or something like that in the very beginning though.

We don't know Leo is in love with him. Craig just is. And I know Leo has made comments about John being a silver fox so it wouldn't be against his type

That was the first thing I thought of when I heard this rumor-now truth. I would totally be okay with the show putting that into the context of Craig knowing he was attracted to men for a long time to give it some sort of history to this brand new behavior. It does makes sense if you think about it. He was weirdly obsessed with Mike's love life. It would be a shame if a serious situation had Craig being in love with LEO. I don't doubt it, but he would leave his wife of decades for LEO? Leo's fun in certain situations, but he wouldn't be in this one.

Of course it happens in real life. Probably a lot more than people know. But for Nancy/Craig there has never been an indication 1. That Nancy would know or condone cheating 2. Nancy would suspect he would be cheating on her with a man 3. Craig has ever been attracted to men I mean this has just started and maybe the reason he was so obsessed with Mike back in the day is because he had a secret crush on him. I agree with those who said NB and KS were good. I never thought they were bad, but they were pretty good today.

That's very true. He's been with Nancy since they were teens and they are like 60 right? It's awkward, but you would think he would have that sort of trust with someone he's been with that long. Even if he's gay he doesn't have to do that to someone. It's two separate issues and I feel like the cheating aspect will be swept under the rug.

I haven't watched it yet and I said I would give it a chance, but it probably would have been better if this all didn't occur in the span of 3 episodes. I obviously remember Nancy and Craig, but they haven't regularly been on our screens for years lol. Some lead up would have been nice. I would have to assume Craig is bi because he enjoyed and loved a woman for years. It would be a real shame for him to just be gay and closeted for years. If they are going to do this it's unnecessary to crap all over Nancy and Craig's 40 plus year relationship. I know it occurs in real life all the time, but before last week there was no indication Craig and Nancy didn't have a loving, healthy relationship.

Watch at your own risk! It starts at the beginning. Lucky is technically fantasizing about the pills, but Carly is being really sexy about it lol

I just don't think Carly is supposed to be the pinnacle of womanhood as a character (I believe Jax said that exactly to her and I died in my soul lol) especially for people who are blood related to her. LW is a stunning woman, but part of Carly's insecurities come from being the poor, scrappy, underdog. I get it's not exactly true now after years as a millionaire, but it's the motivation I give to her when she bites any women's head off that comes near Jason, Jax, or Sonny.

Oh I know it happens. My friend and his sister are both gay so that was 2/2 for that family, but I am imagining Sami's reaction to it all lol. You know Marlena would be thrilled lol

Yeah that's true and that's disappointing because I like Johnny as a villian. I said somewhere in this thread that it limits the fun, sexy, scheming stories we could have had with Johnny. Saddling him with the devil is not like saddling Marlena with the devil. Johnny's a pretty blank slate. Marlena was always good.

Do you think Sami's head would explode if 3/4ths of her kids were LGBTQ? For all we know Sydney is too lol I have known a Tripp in life lol. It was a white preppy guy. I think it might be an east coast name? It's a stupid name, but I have heard it. But I have never met a Roman or Marlena in real life, so it's not the most out there name I guess. Tripp Johnson does sound vaguely like a porn name though.

I think it could be Whitney before plastic surgery? Does anyone know what his first wife looked like? Or honestly, it could be a girl he took a pic with. Weren't they part of some MLM thing that had retreats and stuff?

Sarah brown doesn't look the most natural but TB and LW look great. Gross. I did sort of like Spinelli back then though. I really did enjoy Georgie/Spinelli and early Maxie/Spinelli.

Honestly, if I had my way I would make Johnny a (non-devil) villian and keep Tripp the good guy. I think there is something smarmy about Carson Boatman that works better than Lucas Adams as a villian. Obviously they both could be villains but they are the only two men in this age range right now so that probably wouldn't work lol

I forgot Spinelli had a thing for her. That was during her mini-Carly period though. Carly also had multiple men fighting over her and an entire group of guys at Jakes fantasized about her including her own cousin Lucky. That was a dark time..

Even if Tripp gets jaded about love and unwilling to open up to his future new girlfriend Joy Wesley lol. Or he could start being self destructive and turn to drinking or he could become a manwhore and we can watch shirtless Lucas Adams run around town sleeping with all Salems ladies. I wouldn't want him to change himself entirely. Soaps need good guys like him.

Lol. Her and Maxie had a slew of forgettable leading men at the time. I get they were young ingenues but every single one of those love interests (outside Johnny) were interchangeable. Weren't they at one point fighting over (not gay yet) Lucas? Or was that Maxie and Georgie and really creepy? Even with Dante, there was a time period where all Lulu did was talk about Dante and seemed to have no life of her own, but to be fair I think that was the time period on the show EVERYONE talked about Dante all the time. That only stopped when VM came back and every single character had to talk about Brenda for entire episodes. Poor DZ, Dante is with Sam now. He gets all the cold fish or women that were in love with his dad. It's weird to say the show wastes Dante when 10 years ago you couldn't go a day without Dante or hearing about Dante. That really has nothing to do with JMB/Lulu, but it got me thinking about how much I liked Dante back in the day. Probably the last great hire GH had.

Fair, but it doesn't make Tripp the dullest person on the show lol. He sews okay? I just don't think all hope is lost with Tripp. He needs more of an edge, but he hasn't been actively boring us for a decade and half. They could make him more a villian or he could slip into the Mike Horton sort of role. Honestly the Allie/Tripp/Chanel/Johnny story is the first time I have been interested in him so we will see where it goes.

The season is pretty bland to be honest. Lala does earn her check, but she's also just randomly making drama. There is a lot of James and Raquel and drama about a new bar by the Toms. Charli was the only newbie kept and she was highly edited out. Danica, and everyone else was cut after last season- a couple of them for racist remarks but I honestly can't remember their names. The reunion is great though. I probably would just recommend you watch that.