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Sonny. She started having an affair with him and got knocked up with baby Lila who could have possibly been Jax's but wasn't. She hooked up with Jason later. It was clearly a Brenda plot literally that was foisted on Sam. She gets knocked up by Sonny and falls for Jason which is where the show was headed with the Brenda stuff until VM abruptly left.

Yes, V left with a multi millionaire that Chloe introduced her too. I think his name was Simon. I agree it was probably way too soon to put Jax/V together after the whole Sonny/Brenda saga, but if MB and VM both left the show with Sonny/Brenda married I think it would have been okay eventually. Ugh....those Jax/Sam promos were a lot. And it was so soon after VM left. Obviously it worked out for KeMo, but I don't think any of that promotion helped her cause at all. I don't even think Sam/Jax were the worst, but that promotion and pimping was just asking for trouble especially since I don't think Jax as a character came off very well after the whole Brenda/Skye non wedding debacle. But KeMo/Sam's success is a case where the show tried really hard and it was a failure and they worked around it to make Sam viable. I mean, I personally think Sam is the worst but she's been on the show for almost 2 decades and has fans, so whatever. Print ads seem to be a curse, but all those couples looked very pretty together lol.

So I am continuing with the Possession and tbh it is starting to drag a bit. I do love how everyone tells Marlena she looks like crap and she does, but RUDE. And her ridiculous glasses ha ha! Marlena slinking around town so un Marlena like trying to seduce Father John is pretty hilarious. John really can't figure this out. Those two crazies! MarDevil would have gotten his soul if Kristen didn't cock block it lol. The one thing about the Possession that is slightly unclear is that is the Devil manipulating John to remember his sexy times with Marlena or is he just realizing his love for her again? It seems like clear manipulation, but I think JER is going for rediscovered love. I just don't know if I should believe John is still attracted to Marlena or if the Devil is making him attracted to her again. Obviously, history would say he's still attracted to her, but the show makes it confusing right now. Kristen still has a chance! John found a new nanny. Don't like this baby Belle. I like the one from Aremid better. OGBrady is still adorbs even though I don't think he talks. It came out Mike gave away Marlena's security code! I thought that just faded away, but it didn't. I think I might skip ahead to the exorcism because I am kind of bored with all these false alarms. Idk, Devil, is a Fake Priest's soul really worth all this? Why does the Devil even want John's soul? He in general isn't very religious at all except for these 12 months while Marlena is possessed.

Oh Angel. That was a rough storyline. I don't think she even deserves the credit for being a Brendabot. She wasn't even Hannah level. She was much lower. I find Angel Boris to be a highly unlikable actress and it was just a miss on every level. As far as Hannah, I don't think LV was given much of a chance after the Sonny/Hannah pairing tanked. I think they tried a lot with her in the beginning, but MB was pretty vocal of his dislike of the pairing and I think GH just cut their losses instead of seeing where she could possibly go. At least LV got a husband out of the deal lol!

Seriously, I used to think Sami/Roman were hella creepy. She was acting like his new wife and it was just almost incestuous. I also think it was really crappy of Roman to allow that behavior. He was 100% justified in being angry at Marlena but he seemed to take joy in Sami/Marlena's fractured relationship and did little to help it. I didn't hate Sami (and I mostly have always liked her), but she really only gets a year or two limit on being mad at John/Marlena. After that it's annoying. Like where's your daddy when you gave birth? Will was kidnapped? Multiple Austin/Carrie/Sami weddings? Near death via Austin's car? There were no cards, letters, or phone calls, but Roman is still the best! Ugh.. And I never called my father "Daddy" and it creeps me out when adults do it lol. It might just be a personal thing for me.

I am trying to remember her intro and it was all about that weird story where people thought Jax was a drug dealer and the awful tin man saga. I remember she liked to draw lol. Honestly, she was just a casualty to Vanessa re-signing last minute. Sonny and Brenda leaving together was a done deal and VM screwed it up so they just went back to Jax/Brenda and that breakdown nonsense. How I wish VM decided to leave in 97. I like 98 Brax, but overall not worth it. They at least gave V a happy ending, so I guess it's fine. She was a good C character. I don't think she would have held up that well as Jax's love interest though. But Jax doesn't seem to have a particular type (except women that loved Sonny first lol), so I don't think it was a stretch for him to be attracted to her. He's not Sonny zoning in on any petite brunette he can find lol. V was fairly solidly involved in the Sonny/Jax/Brenda/tinman stuff and I remember her being good with Ned for some reason. Although by the time she officially left the show I think I forgot she was technically still on it. She was sort of wasted, but at least they completed her arc if you will.

It was such a mistake to hire LV because she literally looked like Lily/Brenda had a baby and she was the result. Everything was similar from the hair to the body type. Sonny's an idiot for not figuring out she was an FBI agent from the jump. The show would have been much better served if they hired someone that didn't look like a replacementBrenda like Chloe. I really thought V and Jax were going to become a thing, but perhaps that all got dropped because VM decided to stay last minute and Brax was back on. I like the actress, but again, I think she looked a lot like the actress that played Miranda and that threw me off. I don't see any similarities between Chloe/Katherine except they are both blonde and interacted with Ned lol Lol! She's was pretty and I think she looked a lot like Miranda so it would vaguely fit Jax's type.

I think LV's biggest curse is she looked so much like Vanessa Marcil. I know KeMo is considered the ultimate Brendabot, but Hannah should have worn a stamp of her face saying "Brenda's replacement" lol. I know that was literally why Hannah was brought in from the FBI but it was a lot. I thought LV was pretty decent with AJ and Taggert, but at that point she really was such a flop and Sonny/Carly had taken off. She left town after finding out Roy was her father to go to Alaska lol. The show did try with her. Chloe was just less in your face as a Brenda replacement and I think I wanted Jax to find love moreso than Sonny so I liked her. I am not saying she lit the show on fire with her presence, but I liked her. I loved V. I never got why the show completely dropped the Jax/V romance. I never thought Chloe was a Katherine replacement lol

I always think Perry King is an unsung hero of Spelling soaps. From Brooke's dad/Alison's hubby on Melrose to the Patriarch in Titans. I remember him and Victoria Principal. I also remember Casper Van Dien because he was so bad lol.

From my understanding, and I believe it comes from Drake interviews, Isabella was to be a part of the affair storyline. SG asked for a ton of money and they let her leave thus the Isabella cancer story and the affair was put on hold for about a year. I believe there were concerns that Deidre looked too old for Drake, which maybe she did, but it certainly evened out over the years. I think once they gave them a kid it was endgame for them, but I think Days/NBC was open to trying John out with others because they could always just re-hire Wayne and do RoMar again. I feel like there were periods in the early 90's where the show really went with Isabella/John and Marlena/Roman. Marlena/John didn't really interact much after the Tale of 2 Romans until the Pit. I like Roman/Marlena because Wayne and Deidre had a nice comedic chemistry as opposed to the angst that was always Jarlena. Roman was written into a corner though. He just treated Marlena badly and his kids to the point you were okay with Marlena banging John. I think Roman's anger over the affair rang true, but I don't think his departure did. I don't believe he would have left his kids again and I do think he would have forgiven Marlena eventually. Those were pretty extraordinary circumstances they were all playing out and I think Marlena would have done anything to keep Roman and totally keep John out of her life.

Lol I almost said everything except Charles in Charge. I remember Aaron Spelling really trying to make her a thing with her appearances in 90210 and she always annoyed me. Like David was going to pick her over Donna lol. I don't know something about her bugs me. Tbh, Ingo wasn't terribly memorable in Titans either, but he looked hot.

Pacific Palisades was boring. Sorry Finola! Titans was much glossier and had more potential. I agree the primetime soap was dead by then but I think the cast was pretty good. Josie Davies has always been a miss for me in every role though.

Yeah, I thought the cast was good and the promos were good. The writing wasn't great, but it wasn't really given a chance. I think it could have gelled given a full season. So Ingo and NLG are 15 years!! apart in age. I didn't realize it was that much. He was still a fairly hot commodity in 1999/2000 so I could see network interference on that and maybe not IR. To be fair, I never thought Alexis looked that much older than Jax and it never bothered me.

Thanks for finding that! I knew it was there I was just using stupid keywords I guess lol. Everything really lined up overall with the Brenda return stuff as if GH actually thought about it. Jax burning the test results in 1998, the arms dealer rescuing her, Brenda's tendency to love shady characters like Sonny, her fear of going insane etc basically worked. Jax is apparently the world's worst private investigator since he literally had her in 2000 and came up with nothing until she showed up at his door 2 years later. I am not going to lie. I liked Titans lol. I was bummed it got cancelled so quick.

For some reason I recall hearing he thought Alexis was too old for Jax but I could be wrong. I don't think they said Mr. Alcazar, but they did say she was with an international arms dealer so it generally tracks. Her saying, "i am worth the wait" is so soapy and is why she is my queen forever lol. I can't find it on you tube, but I am 99.9% sure it's there somewhere.

Wasn't Ingo against the Jaxis pairing as well? Or am I just projecting Ingo being difficult even in the 90's? I have always thought Jax/Alexis were great together and it's a shame it will never happen. I liked Chloe much better than Hannah. I liked her with Stefan too and Jax really did her dirty so I always felt bad. Leaving her for the ghost of Brenda was mean. Jax wasn't wrong, but he doesn't learn that til a few years later. I wouldn't have killed Chloe off. She was a likable, basically normal heroine and Tava Smiley was a charming performer. On another note, I am not sure if it was unspoiled or I was just unspoiled, but I flipped my [!@#$%^&*] when Vanessa appeared to say those couple of lines to escort Ingo off the canvas. I was not expecting that at all even though the anvils were there. I just figured Jax was gonna chase after Eva Longoria's fake Brenda off screen. I'll give Guza/Riche credit, that was pretty good.

It's stupid, but Chloe got her company's money left to her by her uncle but she had to get married within a certain time frame to keep the money. Since Chloe was falling for Jax she decided to marry Ned instead to not put pressure on a still grieving Jax. I am pretty sure Ned/Chloe are low key related and I am not sure why he agreed to this since he was with Alexis at the time. Anyhow, something happens when Ned/Chloe try to get married (I think the aunt shows up?) and Jax/Alexis get married instead and then Ned/Chloe later get married. Chloe gets run down by a car that Helena was driving and gets a tumor or blindness or something and Jax/Ingo leave her for a cameoing Vanessa Marcil/Brenda. And then Chloe gets strangled by Stavros. Listen, the story was dumb af, but it gave us our first glimpse of Jax/Alexis which was a favorite non-pairing/friendship of mine and I totally think the show should have gone there with them. I also enjoyed Ned/Jax. They were a cute foursome, but Jax/Chloe did look like Ken and Barbie. I think it was a little too much too soon for Jax/Sonny as we got Chloe/Hannah at almost the same time and they didn't go over well with an audience still missing Brenda, but it is quite possibly the only the story Jax had that had nothing to do with Sonny.

That seems like very poor planning on Jarlena's part to give BOTH their nannies Christmas off lol, but thanks for the explanation. I vaguely remember Gina/Hope being the nanny and then we got Brady/Belle's regular nanny Chelsea back eventually. I am actually ashamed that I knew Belle/Brady's nanny's name off the top of my head lol Yeah, Deidre and Wayne seem to lose some of their romantic chemistry for sure. They still work well together, but the writing was clearly stacked against that pairing and all for John. I think Eileen was a big enough name and a decent get for Days that they may have ran with John/Kristen. The story just got very muddled with Tony and the Possession seemed to build John/Marlena back up, but Aremid is where JER went all in with the pairing. I think Eileen/Kristen worked better with John/Marlena because the whole situation is OTT. Wayne's Roman was just more down to earth as a character. I can't see him battling devils or hanging out in the underworld of Paris. I've always wondered how Isabella would have fit to all of this if Staci Greason would have re-signed her contract. I believe the Affair was already planned with or without Isabella and I just have always wondered how that would have played out.

That and the mixed married stuff is the only non Brenda/Carly stories I can think of. His only non-Sonny related pairings are Skye and Chloe. It's weird they never re-paired Skye/Jax after VM left. I appreciate he is one of the few characters to be able to call Sonny/Jason out on the regular, but Jax needs to re-evaluate his life and maybe go find Skye or Miranda and hook back up with them.

And Jax generally plays second fiddle in his own romantic pairings too. None of his romantic relationships gave him the main point of view. The only time I thought the writing was with Jax was in 1998 when MB was gone and they re-paired Jax/Brenda. That's the one time the writing seem to be on his side and gave him a solid point of view. He mostly sat back and waited for the girl to cheat on him with Sonny. Jax has been a character with wasted potential for years, but Ingo is lucky he made a 25 year career out of being the third wheel in a Sonny triangle.

Well, Shawn and Belle would full on be committing incest as well as Brady but I would full on be onboard if Brady was Brady Brady lol

Lol I still love Sami bringing it up. The entire town is like it's been decades and we are cool with that, but not our Sami She will just bring it up casually on the reg. I wish she'd sell Belle on the black market again

Perhaps, and that's where the devil/religion came into play, but I don't think he lost sight of the endgame in Jarlena ever. It's clear he adored them. And Good god Marlena has suffered more than most for [!@#$%^&*] on a conference room table and marrying that man approximately 20 years ago

I would personally put Dee up for the win in 1980. I feel like that's her strongest work. But I would absolutely put her in the 1995 nominees....

The Tony/Andre [!@#$%^&*] is tedious, but I do love the epic plan of it all Dee pushed for Wayne and I think it was a mistake. John should be Roman. The two characters are entirely redundant to this day.