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Cameron/Joss fumbling around for their first time missionary style might be a niche porn thing, but I doubt it's that big of a deal. Like everyone said, in the age of being able to get porn everywhere, I doubt their milquetoast love making would even cause a stir. I guess it's embarrassing, but it's terribly boring overall.

It does right? Ali does have more of a baby face, but we watched her grow up, so I know how old she should be. I am no fan of Belle and never have been, so to me MM always looked too old for the part, but yet too young to be Claire's mom lol. It just will never work right for the part of Belle although it's too late now to change it. It is what it is, but they never should have aged a character that had such a critical timeline of birth. EJ might be the most egregious case of SORASing, but you can reference his birth without giving any sort of age or timeline really. When Belle yells at Sami for kidnapping her as a baby you think Sami must have crawled out of her crib to do so lol. Re: today's show- Johnny referred to Belle as his "cool" aunt. Shade on Carrie. Obviously, Sami has poisoned Johnny's mind. Carrie will always be cooler than Belle.

Belle's aging will always be problematic, especially since they reference the babynapping all the time..and MM looking the same age as AS doesn't help. Lol! I just googled it and they are only a year apart. And Martha doesn't read younger than her age. She doesn't look bad or anything-she just doesn't look like she's younger than her 40's. And the last iteration of Claire was about 30 as well.

I think it was a specific choice for Julie (perhaps some of her off screen antics back then?) and I am not completely sure having a grandchild aged her as much as the show made it out to be. I think Hope's aging made her feel much older with Doug/Julie playing stern parents. Marlena had a grandchild about a year after her own daughter's birth. Sami was a grandma in her 30's, but it was a decade or two later. I am fine with Marlena aging vaguely. Again, I think she was too old when she arrived just to be paired with Don so it wasn't creepy, so I was fine with backing off on the aging. They have stated Marlena's age though a few times in 86 RoJohn said she was 35 and in 1999 they said she was 50, so the show did kind of follow DH's age for a bit, but I am fine with ageless lol. I assume Sami is 45ish and Carrie a little closer to 50, but then I assume Belle is in her 40's as well which isn't right and Brady looks the same age as Sami, Eric, Carrie, so I am not sure. That does throw off Marlena and John's age though because Sami/Eric/Carrie weren't born when John was 20 lol-even if he's not Roman-I assume they are at least close in age.

Umm..yeah. Marlena was claiming to be an older mom 12 years earlier with Belle. I would allow a 1997/98 Jarlena pregnancy, but not a 50 plus Roman/Marlena pregnancy in 2005 having sex one time. Deidre Hall is ageless and fabulous, but she wasn't on the right side of 50 on that one lol. Although I will say DH looked stunning from 2005-2006 with the longer hair during the Alex North story.

DH had a sort of timeless quality in the 80's that she could play 30-35 for an entire decade and played about 40 for the next decade. Pairing her with Drake helped because he was younger as well and Roman's job made him an easy fit for action/adventure stories. The show wasn't wrong for investing in her. I always thought they made Marlena too old in the beginning (regardless of Dee's age) and I was fine with de-aging her. JC did not age well at all unfortunately. It did put SR in a corner because she looked much younger than him. SSH was hampered by the aging of her son and grandson, but also the pairing. Doug is much older than her. And while it's an obvious supercouple pairing, I can't see them fitting in well with the supercouple/action/adventure stories of the 80's.

So...no one is going to tell Shawn his wife is getting an exorcism? Jarlena are waxing poetically about how their love saved Marlena from the devil, but they aren't going to fill the love of Belle's life in on this? That's so stupid. If we are going to do this can we at least pretend to try to do it right? Although John running into the townhouse to grab his box of Exorcism gear in front of Chloe/Brady did crack me up.

The show definitely de-aged Marlena, but she was a very easy character to transition into the supercouple/action/adventure role because of her pairings with Roman/RoJohn. She was probably one of the only characters from the 70's that had the ability to evolve that way-hence her popularity. She also read a lot younger because Marlena had young children. Mickey/Maggie had adult kids/adopted kids and Mickey/Maggie aren't going to run off the Stockholm to find missing bonds. The show had an embarrassment of riches as well with Bo/Hope, Marlena/Roman/RoJohn, Steve/Kayla, Kim/Shane etc., so I am sure they weren't worried about Mickey/Maggie, Doug/Julie, Tom/Alice at the time. I am not sure if that was right for the future of the show long term, but I do think it was the right direction at the time. It's not like investing in Marlena was a mistake lol.

The Hayes's refused a poor guarantee deal and complained about being pushed out so they left and maybe? overestimated their worth at the time. The show was just moving in a different direction and they didn't want to be just Hope's parents.

Truth. Brenda and Jagger were pulling out condoms out of their wallets 30 years ago. And now it's so awkwardly de-sexualized. It's weird because that's not how teenagers act at all these days. Brenda, Karen, Robin weren't hoeing it up. They were just having sex and it's digressed so much. These teens aren't even drinking let alone stripping at Sonny's club🤣

I went down a rabbit hole and this might be my favorite montage of all time. What are yours?

He doesn't know. Apparently Marlena is keeping Belle sedated until John answers the phone? Because he has a ton of better things to do? He and Marlena spend numerous hours without talking? It's been clear the last few days Marlena hasn't even notified the occupants of the house. It's one of those plots they should just not mention and pretend things are all happening at the same time, but are going out of their way to explain Marlena is just being really weird.

Joss to me is like Belle on Days. You want them to be so much more than they are, you know? Belle has always been boring and so has Joss. They have so much history to build on and act out as teens, but don't. I think Eden is a capable actress, but very, very bland. She looks the part of Carly's daughter but just doesn't bring it for me. Carly and Jax are such big, iconic* characters it's a shame their daughter is so pedestrian. *I consider Jax iconic still despite Ingo

Brenda's set and Liz's set still felt like real teens. Joss's teen set felt like really sanitized teens. You want Joss to be more than she is as Carly/Jax's daughter. She should be a spoiled, rebellious brat and she's practically saintly. It's not like Joss couldn't move out of that later. Brenda was an awful teen, Liz was bratty-they became heroines. It's a character evolving. I hope Spencer/Esme really do shake this up. I think GH desperately needs a gay/bi teen (obvi-Brenda's son) to help this along as well. These teens just seem so lame. It's 2022. Brenda/Jagger were having sex in the Nurse's office 30 years ago. This is the age of streaming. I am not suggesting Euphoria, but Joss and co aren't any fun at all.

As far as teen scenes I prefer when the actors are slightly older. Sure Brenda and Jagger didn't look like anyone I went to high school with, but it wasn't creepy watching sex scenes or them doing more adult stuff. They were in their early 20's and it did show, but there was no Andrea Zuckerman in the room. I think it makes it easier to transition the characters into adult stories as well. Sure, Brenda was about 22 and had been through 2 major relationships, marriages, and engagements, but they also didn't saddle this set with kids and marriage at 18 like shows tend to do as well. I would say Emily/Nik/Lucky/Liz/Zander were more wholesome, but just as successful. I feel like with the Joss set they were super young IRL and we were waiting forever for them to do anything but face tragedy and multiple family problems. Even young looking KMc was allowed to have sex. These teens are wholesome without any fun.

These guys...were a great teen scene I think KMC was the only actual 'teen' but I don't think anyone was that old.

Definitely. I always thought Crazy Luis was a better character though. I guess not a character with any long term potential but I thought TK was fantastic as a psycho and had great chemistry with VM, TB, and RC plus he was very scary.

For sure. I was just thinking about continuity for the OLTL characters at the time. I don't think it would be hard to bring Luis or Lorenzo back. I actually think TK is pretty hit or miss, but did have really good chemistry with the people on GH.

Sorry. My bad-I had to look it up. They were brothers, but not twins lol. Luis was older. I knew it was something stupid like that, but I guess better than cousins. OK. Got it. I still think there was a feasible way to bring him onto the canvas though, even as just a lookalike with Sonny/Jason not trusting him. And maybe Tomas did something awful when he was undercover that made him indebted to the organization and Tomas could still be a foe for the Corinthos organization. At least TK had proven chemistry with the actors on GH.

Is there no way he could have been a presumed dead Luis who lost his memory or was deep undercover? Or a third Alcazar lookalike? Luis/Lorenzo weren't brothers IIRC, but cousins. I know, I KNOW. Great minds😍. Call us Frank!! lol I loved those primetime episodes. The best was Night Sins were Sami caught John/Marlena and Carrie got a face full of acid.

Yeah, I honestly don't think it's a personal attack. Just more of the way Ron views the characters. To be fair, though, Julie/Maggie have not been considered viable for a long, long time (except for that weird period when DH was fired and Maggie was the thing). They have been by and large supporting for years. Marlena and Kate have always gotten much more favorable, modern writing. I never really understood the Kate love, but it's obvious why Marlena still gets it.

I don't think so? I think both actress go with the flow these days. I think both are always very positive and seem happy to be working.

Sorry, Beth was who I was thinking of. I just said Dinah, but I think she did too.

That was bad and insulting. But wasn't it mostly Dinah making the digs?

It's strange because RC doesn't do that to men on Days. He goes out of his way to say Victor and Doug are super active and spry. And of course I want to articulate this delicately, but BH is a 96 year old man. John Aniston clearly has back problems and mobility issues. BH is looking fabulous for his age, but I don't believe Doug is a racquet ball champion. SR is much younger and looks and acts it. They have painted Julie into a old, grumpy, slightly racist lady as well like you said. But on the flip side Kate, Marlena, and Anna run around town fighting evil and bedding younger men. I do think it has to do with who they are paired with as well. Tony, John, and I guess Roman are more viable and younger.