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Do you think had they done the faith/frank/Jill story when Catherine hicks had played Faith..it would have worked better?

I think you mean Lynne, not Quinn. Quinn was tamras 1st target in season 3.

The faith/frank/Jill triangle signalled to me that it was probably best Labine was burned out. It was plot driven and totally undercut the Faith character. I still recall one scene where Jill said she was done pretending she was ok being in the same room with them...she knew that she said she could..but she real8zed it was a pipe dream. I always thought Jill was too good for Frank though Seneca wasnt any better for her. It was a crime that foe about 18 m9nths while Frank was off the canvas that she hardly did anything of substance...as if the show viewed Jill as not complete with Frank in the picture. Delia played by RE was almost a different character...more ditzy yet resourceful in an odd way. I liked how Taggert wrote Delia before Labine came back and tied her back to roger...her dysfunctional abuser.

Rhony does need a little shake up..nit major but some fine tuning. Carole adds nothing to the show...she isn't doing anything...time to drop her at last. Tinsley just didn't fit either. So id drop those two...and add maybe one new housewife. I think every season should add or take out a housewife to keep it from going stale. Rhoc benefited from an overhaul going into season 9...and it's time for another one for season 13. No to Gretchen or Lizzie. Maybe drop one or two..and keep it at 5 or 6. Dandria...where did they find her? She's perfect on Dallas. Maybe OC needs to steal the casting director from Dallas for season 13.

I was watching YouTube's of Robert and Katherine..probably near the end of their relationship. She fit in well with Sean, Tiff, and Anna. However, you could tell the actress was playing up the insecurity her character felt about her relationship with Robert. Oddly, I thought her and Anna fit better as friends then either did with Robert. It made perfect sense that the two broke up because Katherine would always feel doubt about Roberts love for her. It is telling that within six to eight months after the break up scenes between Robert and Katherine that he and Anna remarried. My late mom watched in the 80s...and she was team Holly...but she loved Anna with Duke.

I can see your reasons for wanting Gretchen to come back...however... It's been proven that a housewife coming back really doesn't work as well... examples below... Lydia on RHOC Dina and Jacqueline RHONJ Bethenny RHONY. Sheree RHOA Time will tell if Nene will be a bust. I do agree with @Nothin'ButAttitude that Lizzie should be recurring...she handled Vicki, t amra, and meghan...but she's so private that a friend of role like she had in season 10 would be perfect for her. And she actually has a business and a degree in merchandising so her being a designer worked.

I kind of wish Lynch and company had some interference...because it was a beautiful 18 hour movie..but no real payiff...but at the same time, I do admire him for not catering to fans...though I wish Audrey fate wasn't left up in the air. Was she in a coma, in a mental hosipital..or worse...dead.

Actually I wish they would film less together...im old school housewives format over the current one that requires drama, shade and Cattiness all the time. Don't get me wrong..drama is good but.balance is key. I'm not even Gretchen is coming back foenjust one episode. She should be a one season and over housewife. If she loses Slade, gets an actual job, maybe married someone with kids...i could see her coming back...but she brings nothing other then to rattle Tamra..and that isn't hars to do. Peggy does that already without even trying lol

So confused...almost like a reset or a different timeline?

On paper, Carol seemed like a typical ingenure...bland and insipid...yet seeing her in clips...she was anything but bland. Didn't she leave in 1982? I often think Marland would have done well with her.

Next week Meghan is back to being Nancy Drew..excited I'm also read8ng Tinsley novel that was written in 2012...light and breezy...what Carole Radizell tried to do with the Widows Guide..but didn't quite succeed.

My guess is that they paired Hogan (show hog) with Patti to tie him to Jo...since 1986 was when the show started focusing back on Jo again. Didnt they deage Patti when the last actress came on to play her? I think the character would have been 40 at least...and the shoe could habe cast a 40 year old and still paired her with Hogan..who was late 30s.

I wouldn't have a problem w9th RHOC being an island..because most of season 3 of RHONY had two islands with Jill and friends on one island..and Bethenny and friends on the other island..and it was one of their best seasons ever. The difference was that jill/Luann were friends....and ramona/Alex were friends. I can't believe she by she ree has been revived.... http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEV10HtKZZEpEAsydx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTE0dWVpZWM2BGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDVUkyRkJUM18xBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1504126088/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fthejasminebrand.com%2f2017%2f08%2f25%2fsheree-whitfields-sheree-t-shirt-line-nordstrom%2f/RK=1/RS=P.Gbi5NShjLke78gEOy2qn3TXlo-

Ever since Audrey did her dance at the start of season 1, I've always wondered if she was connected to the spirit world...not that she's a spirit..but has a connection with it. Glad to see she does...im just wondering if she's in a coma..or if she is also on a journey to get back to Twin Peaks as well?

a preview of tonights RHOC...i so can tell Peggy and Tamra will be life long friends after this lol http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county/season-12/episode-8/videos/is-tamra-going-to-give-peggy-a

Wow...where did this Brooke go? Im getting more and more why the original Donna quit...all she became in the last year of her stint was a talk to for brooke.

I agree that Andy adores Shannon...in fact, he seems display genuine concern for her during her WWHL visits. Vicki seems a nightmare behind the scenes....and I think the show would be fine if she left. The show might get a new leash on life if she left. Almost everyone I know hates Vicki..and message board comments are just over her. DALLAS I like the new housewife dandria...her mom's inability to adapt will cause the company to go under...maybe as a way to ensure her daughter d oesnt inherit it? RHONY Wow on Tinsley not voting...but I give her props for admitting it...moreso then Ramona, s onja or luann pleading the 5th.

Margo stays around till mid 1992. She has a story arc coming up with her brother Jake, her family, then has a brief flirtation with Taylor's ex husband before she leaves.

Someone posted on a different board that Andy Cohen kept Vicki on the show after season 10 to redeem her and see if she could win back favors with the others. I could see his reasoning but after she again blew it in season 11...he should have cut ties with Vicki. If he and the show fired Gretchen for making up the proposal and not owning her part in things then certainly Vicki should be fired (im not even a fan of Gretchen, but I can see the double standard at work).

I think over time she found out...felt humiliated and didn't want to admit she was wrong. I think the show is veering into Lake Bass territory And the only resolution will be to clean house for season 13...and I think it's time Vicki needs to take a break.

It says a lot that Ed and Norma had the epic longing love story that hopefully will end happily...but considering the twist at the end of season 2 where their future was up in the air...we still have three episodes to go. Gersten hayward, there was talk by fans when the original show aired that she had a link to the darker forces in Twin Peaks...eith her playing the piano during a haunting closing credit. I do wonder what happened to her sisters Donna and Harriet. It's ironic that Shelly was in An abusive marriage and she managed to break free thanks to Bobby..and Leo getting shot and eventually dying (we assume)...yet her daughter Becky ends up in an abusive marriage and might not be as lucky. Sins of the parents are repeated by the children. I still think it's glaring that Annie hasn't been mentioned except in episode 7 in the missing diary pages. How odd that a last minute character with No plan except as a fill in for Audrey has left a hole in the show. My theory is maybe she is like Dawn from Buffy the vampire slayer...someone that can appear and no one realizes she appeared from out of thin air...and can vanish as if she never existed.

If she hadn't starred on Santa Barbara, she wouldnt have gotten the part in The princess Bride. Sometimes the snobbery of some actor astounds me.

I recall lilibet quit just before the patty shooting Jack event. I often wonder if Patty would have last longer beyong late 1984 if she had stayed in the role.

A little too toxic...maybe Danielle had nothing to give but drama hence why she is just a friend. Brandi on BH should have always stayed a friend since she xouldnt offer anything but drama.

From watching YouTube's from 1981 to 1989...id have to say the following.. love Angie/Jesse. Greg/Jenny were kind of boring hence why Lisa then Amanda were used as onterlopera...cause on their own..the couple was boring. The anticipation of them getting together outweighed the actual coupling. The fact she was killed a few months after they finally got together is partly why they are so memorable. Had she lived...i have no doubt they would have either left town or broken up. Loved Dottie...loved her early friendship with Jesse...even loved her whimsical mother Edna. I did think she and Tad were a true couple...thiugh I did like that she eventually worked for Erica and became buddies/roommates with Greg before briefly dating Andrew. She left for greener pastures...nowadays she would have gone crazy and tried to kill Hilary or kidnap Tad...she loved Tad but realized he didn't love her in that way and broke free to find herself. Hilary...is it weird I liked her better once she and Tad broke up...and she and Skye were rivals at work and over Mitch? A shame she left just before Tad came back...wpuld have been interesting to see if tad/dixie would have happened if the actress playing Hilary hadn't left. I liked how Eric was isolated from the canvas from 1981 to 1984 before her marriage to Adam Chandler reconnected her to the canvas till 1986 when her adventures with Jeremy/Natalie isolated her again till 1988/89. In the 1990s, she was more integrated with the canvas. On y and r...that type of isolation wad the norm..but AMC was more about the cimmunity..smaller town...more close knit..where pine valley was just as much of a character.