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I think they got boring couple because the story was cut short by Cast's exist so the writers weren't able to fully develop and flesh it out. If I recall.. this story was based on a 'A Star is Born' where she's aspiring to be famous and meets someone famous... they fall in love.. he helps her develop her talent and confidence.. then she ends up more famous then him.. and then they break up. I do think that the part of the story that cut off was her finding her first born since the book was all about that (with flashbacks to Rose and her losing her first born).. then Nina was written off due to the actress leaving. Plus, Nina was support in the Tricia/Vicky/Ryan story.. with Nina being the first one to discover Tricia wasn't dealing with a full deck and warning Victoria and Ryan before leaving the show. I was in college during this time.. and all of us (men and women) liked Nina and were bummed that she was leaving... she was the everywoman character.

I liked how they introduced MJ... and I'm glad the relationship between Carolee and her was answered right away. MJ isn't related to Carolee except through marriage and I loved that there was a reference to how young MJ reminded Carolee of herself several years ago. Lastly, I liked that Carolee got to display some whimsical humor. At least the Pollock's knew to keep some of the sarcastic edge to Carolee... I'll be curious how Depriest saps the character of that last strand of the old Caroleee.

1998 to 2001.. the Kay Alden era... she took what Bill Bell did and updated it by quickening the pace yet still hitting all the beats. Plus, she started interacting the characters outside their story bubbles unlike Bill Bell.

Bringing Mona back helped make the show less about the Doctors/nurses long term. She was a one note character..imho.

Anyone would be a notch above Andy... all outer looks and nothing inside.

I liked today's set of episodes.. where Penny and Mike came face to face. Both bonded over having difficult relationships with their parents.. and you could see a kinship there. I think the Pollocks were pretty good.. but I do agree they did like to drag out a story.. but soaps in the 70s generally did drag out stories with huge payoffs. We all have to remember what we are watching is from the 70s, not 2010s. After seeing Andy/Stacy in their brief scene... I'm rooting for Penny to break them up... is that bad? LOL

Is it possible that Cendella is listed because he wrote the episode for the day? I also wonder if the show was auditioning replacements hence why you have him, Deborah Sherwood, and Lanie Bertram credited? I knew Depriest didn't follow the Pollacks right away because I think she was on LOL during this time.. so it will be interesting to see what stories Cendella uses and what Depriest/Marland add.

I was surprised that Kristen/Brandi were such long time friends because the two were as different as night and day until I realized that Kristen married and lived on the East coast with her husband... plus her young daughter had medical issues.. and I think all of that has to change someone. Plus, it was the one time that I thought Brandi was likable because she was with someone that loved and accepted her for her long before either one of them got into the Bravo cameras. Jules kind of fascinated me because she marched to the beat of a different drummer, but I think given what was going on with her in her personal life.. it was best she didn't come back for another season. Still, Carole and Bethenny's bewildered expressions were priceless (I had read an article about how Eileen would give the same bewildered looks whenever she and Kim Richards filmed together during Eileen's debut season on RHOBH.. shame none of that filmed material ever was shown.) Cindy... no comment. In regards to RHOBH, Rinna the last few episodes is the Rinna I remember in her own reality show she had years ago.. and reminded me of the Rinna we saw in the first half of season 5 before Kim's limo meltdown. Kyle and LVP will never truly be close friends like they were back in season 1 and 2. While LVP is no angel, I still say Kyle isn't all that innocent and in some respects I think she is more lethal then LVP. Anytime I've seen Kyle pose for photos.. she gives off this superior look and has this evil smirk whenever the cameras pan to her when the other women are speaking. She's a wolf disguised in sheep's clothing... and given her circle of friends, it says who she is as a person (LVP also has a sketchy crowd of close friends as well.).

I agree.. I think if Carole or Bethenny stopped being on the RHONY show.. the friendship would go away... while Heather/Carole seem to still be friends. Plus, Heather/Carole seemed less mean girls while Carole/Bethenny answer where Regina George would look and act like once she hit over 40. To me... if I hung out with Bethenny.. I'd be exhausted after an hour ( I kind of feel for her ex husband even though he wasn't a saint because she's so draining to be around). Heather.. I could see having fun with and not be exhausting. But if it's a choice between Tinsley and Heather... no contest.. Heather! Tinsley has this vacant look in her face like the light is on upstairs but no one is home.

Heather and Bethenny had an interesting dynamic. Once Heather realized Bethenny didn't like her, she moved on..then Bethenny whined that Heather w asnt trying to be down to her. They were alike yet different. Bethenny was funnier then Heather...but Heather was warmer then Bethenny

So how long does dippy Stacy last for?

Her Penny came back in January 1973 and left in October/November 1974 after she was proven innocent of murder.. and after she had an emotional charge showdown with Althea. She caused quite a bit of trouble for Althea, Nick, Ann, Toni, Mike, and her step father John during that time period. She just recently returned in the April/May 1975 episodes announcing she wants to start college and become a doctor.. not because she cares about saving lives but to be better at it then Althea... plus is obsessed with that singer Andy. I'll be curious to see what other mischief she gets into in this stint.

As June 1975 is coming to an end... we can see the next stories taking shape (whether the next writers maintain this or not.. will be interesting to see). I will be curious to see what Anna Stuart said was the reason she became disenchanted with how the show is writing her character... I think it had to do with how the show resolves the Mike/Toni/Alan story. At this stage of the story, the writers are making it seem like Alan/Toni are end game with Mike as an obstacle for them to be together. I know the Pollacks are getting close to leaving.. and I'd always wondered how they would have resolved this story... and will we get a scene of Matt/Maggie eating humble pie because they thought Greta was crazy (good use of history with the rabbit bite and mental issues she had after her sickness)... and I'm curious to see if Penny will interact with Mike again... since her crush kickstarted the whole story that is playing out two years after it started.

I think the reason the Laura story is voted the worst story is due to how the story loses any sort of direction. I think it was just starting right when the strike happened.. and I think it was resolved/ended during the stirke.. or right after the strike was over (not sure of timeline). I know Marland had left a bible that the scabs tore through in lightening speed when I think he had the bible written for a year plus of story.

That's cause Rinna had actual stuff going on in her life. with her family/daughters... and her two acting gigs on The Middle/Days (she was good on the Middle.. so warm and charming... proves she does know how to act

I don't think she was on long enough to be considered a failure... I think the writers hinting at a Carter/Lucy pairing is what colors people to her character. I know Kellie Martin had a family member sick, and she couldn't be on a medical show while that was going on so she asked to leave. I figured she'd die.. but I was still surprised at how it came about. In the earlier seasons, I would say Maria Bello's character D'amico (not sure if the right character name or not) was more of a failture then Kellie Martin's character.

Eva was a dud on y and r and she's a dud on RHOA. My only guess was that acting didn't work for her so why not be a reality tv star.

It does look like Atlanta needs a shake up... starting with casting women that actually like each other because if the current format of contrived gatherings/vacations continues... it looks better if the women actually enjoy being with one another. Back in the day, the women didn't have to know or like each other when it was more about their day to day lives... but Atlanta needs to emulate the NY model if it hopes to succeed. BH and Dallas are more a hybrid where some of the women still like each other.. but we get glimpses into their individual lives. OC and NJ need to go back to the day to day stuff with some shade/drama thrown in.. because both shows were focused more on the family aspect then the drama. I've never seen RHOP so I don't know where they fall on the spectrum.

I know RHOC was doing some try-outs in late January/early Feb.. and rumor has it this person is a front-runner. https://www.inquisitr.com/4766953/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county-season-13-gina-kirschenheiter-reportedly-added-to-cast/

About time NY is getting a new trip. With all the real life starting going in...please no contrived conflicts. That's what killed the franchise for me.

My problem isn't with the Capwells.. but with the lack of balance. It's all Capwells with little to no focus on characters outside the Capwell sphere. Which is why I'm enjoying the early Julia episodes before she gets sucked into the Mason vortex.

Too much focus on the Capwells... no wonder the show never got true ratings success. And I actually don't mind the recast of Santana... she certainly wasn't wishy washy like Gina G was... but agree, she wasn't intense or meloncholy like Ava was.

So on the AMC board, they were talking about restaurants/eateries/clubs that the characters in Pine Valley hung out at.. and it made me think about the establishments for Guiding Light. I think I recall The Blue Orchid in the mid 80s (had a very sleek 80s look to it), The Blue Moon, Towers, Company, Millenium (I liked how over the top it was..like the original owner Drew).. but I don't recall a lot of new establishments that came about in the final years of the show.

https://www.inquisitr.com/4773484/could-the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey-be-canceled-show-is-reportedly-on-hold-ahead-of-season-9/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+google%2FyDYq+(The+Inquisitr+-+News)&utm_content=Yahoo+Search+Results http://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/one-of-the-real-housewives-of-orange-county-will-not-return-next-season?cid=soc_fb_RHOC_RHOC_Dish Thoughts?

Karma is a funny thing. That's all I have to say about the Mario story. R hobh, I think I get why Rinna was watching season 1 of R HOBH to see what worked and made that first season stellar. In shirt, genuine friendships, organic conflict, fun vacations, and people actually enjoying being around each other. Plus, it was filmed in the old format of having their own day to day lives (L VP at the DMV was both funny, offensive, and cringeworthy...yet it was real and not scripted). Teddi...poor Teddi. Like a deer caught in headlights. If she's smart she will bail on coming back next season.