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AMC:The Murder setup

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Yeah David has no idea those two were together that night, so if he is the one who set up Zach, he also set up Dixie without realizing it.

I do think Zach and Dixie planned something for Madden, I don't think they found him that night. Madden's blood could have been planted, and Zach's fingerprint was definitely planted, cause there was no way they could have gotten a 10 point match of Zach's fingerprint with all the mud and water and things that were in coffin.

I don't even think Zach and Dixie were together that whole night, I think they went their separate ways after a few hours

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Don't throw your mouses at the screen, but thinking like MMT, Its Cindy Parker, who is not die after and discovered she didn't have AIDS and Greg diagnosed her with the diease and he could turn out to be Scott's real father.

or maybe the killer could be Cindy's twin Karen

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Lol, I bet it's Myrtle, but then again she has a thing for Zach so I doubt she'd set him up.

I'm to the point now where I couldn't give a flyin f. I bet it's Greenlee though. She had all the motives in the world to kill Greg Madden. I'm surprised no one has questioned the diagnosis he gave Greenlee. I bet he lied to her too. That alone is enough for her to kill him.

LoL Ryan.

I think it'd be pretty amazing and brilliant if it were Greenlee - great way to have her come back and I never thought of it. BUT unfortunately, unless she has an accompliance in Pine Valley, there isn't a way she could have done it. She wouldn't know about Kate, or care about Kate - the murderer has to have concerns about Dixie and Kate....which makes me wonder WHY this killer would be framing Dixie now if they were all about finding Kate.

So I guess that means the real killer isn't the one framing Zach, Dixie, and JR. So there are 2 questions: Who killed Dr. Madden, and which suspect is framing these people?

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Whodunit?

Who cares?

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I still believe that Jamie did it and JR knew about it. JR could be setting up Zach because I think he is bothered that Dixie is relying on Zach not thinking that Dixie would be implicated as well. JR knows that he's on borrowed time with Zach (Zach told him that outright) and thought he could solve his problem, maybe send Kendall into a tailspin where he could be her shoulder to repair that friendship, and insure that his brother doesn't take the fall for his "wrong execution of the right idea".

I believe that MMT wants Jamie to have a few more layers and how better than to have him perpetrate this act for the right reasons? Jamie is Tad's son and Kate's brother. Jamie was close with Amanda and is dating Julia. Both of them were targets of Madden's god complex. Jamie had to act fast to keep Amanda from going through with the surrogacy and getting Kate would help his brother out of his alcoholic descent into homicidal dementia.

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I agree with Janet, so all the rest could get off the hook.

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I'm sorry but this storyline SCREAMS plot driven. I don't see ANY of the All My Children characters getting THAT twisted to put a living, breathing man into a coffin and bury him alive.

That's waaaaaay too extreme no matter WHO did it in this storyline.

Erica, being a recovering addict, would NEVER have dabbled in buying pills off the internet to drug someone on live television.

Jamie -- studying to become a future doctor whose oath is FIRST DO NO HARM?!

Julia -- after murdering someone in cold blood and having pangs of guilt over it no matter how justified she thought she was in doing it as vengence for Noah?

JR -- oh, sure! I mean, between drunken binges and coming up with plans to kill his wife with a pile of cynder blocks, had the time to strategize and develop this plan.

Zach -- he never gets his hands dirty. He plays mind games and makes YOU trip over your own damn self.

Dixie -- Well, I wouldn't put it past her. She's a completely different shape shifting character ever since she came back.

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I can't bring myself to care. I'm either bored with or over just about every character on the PV landscape right now and it makes me sick.

I agree the Madden Murder mystery is totally plot-driven and so much groundwork layin' for possible cast changes, already re-written and likely to be again, imo.

We've been lead down the McTavish Road of Mystery too many times and know by now that the culprit is likely uncertain at the beginning of a storyline and subject to change many many times before the mystery is "solved." If you can't count on the clues your provided to mean anything, then the writer's breaking the rules of the mystery game and the wondering who's done what to whom is just a waste of time, imo.

Janet has been and will continue to be Mct's ace in the hole. Janet's been laying low and McTravety will fall back on that easy out if she can't figure out how to fix whatever unfresh hell she's created by the "climax" of this mystery...if Janet wasn't her perp all along.

But again, the X factor is which actors are staying and which are going.

Lawdy! I. Want. My. Show. Back. I'm barely if at all watching/paying attention and then not even everyday.

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I think the person who buried Greg Madden is his very own "son" JOSH. The twist???? Josh did it while in a fugue state just like his mom Erica and sister Bianca once were while committing heinous acts. He's also probably the one setting up Zach and Dixie and again he has no memory of doing that either. It all makes sense when you really think about it. Factor this in with those upcoming scenes where Josh re-enacts Madden being trapped in a coffin and you can conclude that Josh is unhinged at least on some level.

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Haha - I just thought about this, but what if it were AMANDA during one of her 'blackouts' that was hardly explained or given closure to.

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If the killer is someone the viewers do not expect then that list would include:

Erica

Adam

Brooke

Josh

Babe

Erica, Adam and Josh would have no problems setting up Zach and Dixie. Brooke would not set them up but she would want to help Tad.

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I think it's either David or Josh. Josh building that coffin and getting in it, is possibly a big clue (or it may just be a big red herring, lol).

If it's gonna be a shock, it'll probably be Josh. I do like the Greenlee theory, and agree it would be an excellant way to reintroducing Greenlee (hey maybe Greenlee's been laying low and sneaking around in disguise). I think that the Soap Secrets special showing Rebecca Budig(Greenlee) quite a bit, may have been a huge clue to a possible return.

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I think it's either David or Josh. Josh building that coffin and getting in it, is possibly a big clue (or it may just be a big red herring, lol).

The Josh In The Box wasn't even a red herring -- it was McTavish trying to find a way to get Babe and Josh in an emotional space. Josh had no interest in finding Kate and he still thought Greg was his father. I doubt Josh would bury his own father alive to get information on the whereabouts of a sister of two men he hates (JR/Jamie).

Josh isn't Ethan. :mellow:

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I hope it IS Greenlee - and Rebecca is back to play her. Then she can kill off Ryan's 'true love' Annie (at that time) and then that'll be her revenge. That way we don't have two actresses on the show that look like Rebecca/Greenlee - and Tad will get custody of Kate/Emma - as Annie and Terry will both be dead :) Please...let it happen.

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I hope it IS Greenlee - and Rebecca is back to play her. Then she can kill off Ryan's 'true love' Annie (at that time) and then that'll be her revenge. That way we don't have two actresses on the show that look like Rebecca/Greenlee - and Tad will get custody of Kate/Emma - as Annie and Terry will both be dead :) Please...let it happen.

As we saw from Frons in the spoiler section, he loves Ryan too much for that. The question is who loves Ryan more, Frons or Erica? ;)

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