4 hours ago, Maxim said:

A twist doesn’t fix months of mediocre writing. I believe that if you need a twist to save your ass all the time, then something is amiss.

That's how I feel, and I see this happening all over the place. Some things -- like Vernon and Sharon -- aren't even real twists. We ALL know what's really happening. Do these writers think they're fooling us?

If the Vanessa and Joey story gets a twist -- that Vanessa is setting up Joey for a takedown -- I can't see it as satisfying, because we're getting MONTHS of her slobbering all over him with no insight as to how this takedown would take place, with no regard given to her kids or to her community standing and reputation.

-- Nicole is so busy that she can't make it to Martin's for tree decorating? She can't stop there for 20 minutes to see her grandkids?

-- WTH is up with continuity? Eva was dressed in all white at the country club with Ted. Then we see her at Uptown in a COMPLETELY different outfit with a different necklace and earrings. Really???

-- The Febreze product placement was bad today. Nicole is spraying the stuff heavily while Carlton is sitting right there on the picnic blanket?

-- Samantha helping June at Orphey Gene's -- essentially working there -- is stupid.

Not sure this belongs in this thread....

Did any of you see the Maurice Johnson (ex-Ted) interview on You Tube? It's an exercise in toxic masculinity. The guy is flat-out homophobic, and I am GLAD he was fired/recast/whatever.

I would not be surprised if there were reasons he was let go that are tied to his anti-gay and misogynistic attitude.

16 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

That's how I feel, and I see this happening all over the place. Some things -- like Vernon and Sharon -- aren't even real twists. We ALL know what's really happening. Do these writers think they're fooling us?

If the Vanessa and Joey story gets a twist -- that Vanessa is setting up Joey for a takedown -- I can't see it as satisfying, because we're getting MONTHS of her slobbering all over him with no insight as to how this takedown would take place, with no regard given to her kids or to her community standing and reputation.

-- Nicole is so busy that she can't make it to Martin's for tree decorating? She can't stop there for 20 minutes to see her grandkids?

-- WTH is up with continuity? Eva was dressed in all white at the country club with Ted. Then we see her at Uptown in a COMPLETELY different outfit with a different necklace and earrings. Really???

-- The Febreze product placement was bad today. Nicole is spraying the stuff heavily while Carlton is sitting right there on the picnic blanket?

-- Samantha helping June at Orphey Gene's -- essentially working there -- is stupid.

The way they do the product placement, rough and without much thought... is how they plot the entire show basically. If they just learn how to do it in a funnier... or more elegant way... it's going to be way less absurd.

2 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

The guy is flat-out homophobic

Never missed him even for a second. Quite honestly... don't ever remember him.

19 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

Not sure this belongs in this thread....

Did any of you see the Maurice Johnson (ex-Ted) interview on You Tube? It's an exercise in toxic masculinity. The guy is flat-out homophobic, and I am GLAD he was fired/recast/whatever.

I would not be surprised if there were reasons he was let go that are tied to his anti-gay and misogynistic attitude.

It was in the History thread but it might as well be discussed here. Hopefully this will end the lamentations for this dude. He's done.

57 minutes ago, Vee said:

It was in the History thread but it might as well be discussed here. Hopefully this will end the lamentations for this dude. He's done.

He's really trash.

I also have no use for his interviewer, who pushed back at nothing and treated him like God's gift.

With any luck, this will end his career and we'll never see his ignorant ass in anything again.