8 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

It’s been a great binge. I’ve also just gotten to the anniversary episodes on Days of our Lives and I’m obsessed with the 60’s flashbacks.

I know! I'm not at all liking the tonic shift story-wise, but I can't deny it is holding my interest in spite of it. Of course that could be cuz Laura is centered. And now I'm getting Marco/Lucas.

Ooooo I heard about those.

I see even with Rory in the role they still have Michael as decent enough to try to help Brook Lynn keep her marriage together. I'm glad they aren't painting him as a devil but I wish he'd just put a foot in Chase's ass.

The scene where Chase was in full delusional mode and accused Dante of trying to protect Michael out of guilt, followed by Dante suspended him, was very good. You can have "good" characters who are still deeply flawed. I hope they keep taking Chase out on that ledge.

1 hour ago, Taoboi said:

Seriously, I can't believe they not only took Drew's one redeeming quality aka Scout away and not even being shot has changed him.

That's my issue with the storyline, too. Whenever you shoot the bastard, either he dies, or he "sees the light," so to speak. So far, it looks as if we're getting neither. If anything, I think Drew has grown even MORE obnoxious since getting shot, if that's even possible!

Of course, I'm also the only one in the universe who thought "Who Shot J.R.?" turned out to be a tremendous waste of time as well, so don't go by me, lol.

16 minutes ago, Khan said:

That's my issue with the storyline, too. Whenever you shoot the bastard, either he dies, or he "sees the light," so to speak. So far, it looks as if we're getting neither. If anything, I think Drew has grown even MORE obnoxious since getting shot, if that's even possible!

Of course, I'm also the only one in the universe who thought "Who Shot J.R.?" turned out to be a tremendous waste of time as well, so don't go by me, lol.

Lol. But very.

I didn't want him to lose his edge, but I wanted something, anything. It's almost like the writers were toying with the audience cuz they knew what they were doing was leading to a murder mystery and they got offended the audience were that savvy so...NOPE.

1 hour ago, Khan said:

That's my issue with the storyline, too. Whenever you shoot the bastard, either he dies, or he "sees the light," so to speak. So far, it looks as if we're getting neither. If anything, I think Drew has grown even MORE obnoxious since getting shot, if that's even possible!

Of course, I'm also the only one in the universe who thought "Who Shot J.R.?" turned out to be a tremendous waste of time as well, so don't go by me, lol.

He really did become even more of a damn bastard after being shot. Typically after a character is shot I don’t find myself wanting someone to finish the job but every day Drew is on I’m like why didn’t the shooter aim for the head once he was on the ground 😂

2 hours ago, Taoboi said:

I know! I'm not at all liking the tonic shift story-wise, but I can't deny it is holding my interest in spite of it. Of course that could be cuz Laura is centered. And now I'm getting Marco/Lucas.

Ooooo I heard about those.

Seeing Susan Flannery as Laura Horton was wild. I was so used to her butchy Stephanie towards the end of her run on B&B, it was wild to see her young and feminine.

3 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I did want to see where Mulcahey was taking Nina (I assumed he was taking Ava into a body bag). It's clear Korte does not care.

I'll probably always mourn what I think he was doing with Drew and Nina as a real, viable couple further down the road, despite their previously being two characters I couldn't care less for. His Drew (which the current one was birthed from) was a more nuanced, still increasingly gray character who could launch schemes and be a cad, but there was still rooting value for the two of them there. Now, as you say, Nina is a total afterthought. But PM clearly relished writing for Watros (I can't recall if he ever had before).

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I always get irritated when I see Michael being such a Quartermaine now and interacting with his family but still claiming Sonny. It’s one of the really dumb things the writers have kept up despite the brief period after AJ’s cold blooded murder that Michael cut out Sonny. Knowing all the history between AJ and Sonny including the murder, there should never be a world where Michael forgave Sonny let alone gave his children the Corinthos name.

It is certainly a writing choice to have Charlotte super attached to the man that violated her mother. Like are teenagers really so stupid to not know the things done to Lulu are wrong? Like seriously both her kids don’t give a single flying f.uck about what Britt and Valentin did to her and it’s such a confusing writing choice that they seem to double down with on a weekly basis.

27 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

I always get irritated when I see Michael being such a Quartermaine now and interacting with his family but still claiming Sonny. It’s one of the really dumb things the writers have kept up despite the brief period after AJ’s cold blooded murder that Michael cut out Sonny. Knowing all the history between AJ and Sonny including the murder, there should never be a world where Michael forgave Sonny let alone gave his children the Corinthos name.

It is certainly a writing choice to have Charlotte super attached to the man that violated her mother. Like are teenagers really so stupid to not know the things done to Lulu are wrong? Like seriously both her kids don’t give a single flying f.uck about what Britt and Valentin did to her and it’s such a confusing writing choice that they seem to double down with on a weekly basis.

You are so right about all of this.

11 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

You are so right about all of this.

I’m currently getting caught up and it’s all so maddening. This show could literally be great with some minor tweaks as it already is pretty watchable on a daily basis. But some of the things these writers double down on are just infuriating for me and remind me why I stopped watching for years.

Tuesday's episode was pure soapiness.. Poor Portia; she can't get a break. I loved the courtroom scenes. The MEK character is still a bust and so not needed.

6 hours ago, Antoyne said:

He really did become even more of a damn bastard after being shot. Typically after a character is shot I don’t find myself wanting someone to finish the job but every day Drew is on I’m like why didn’t the shooter aim for the head once he was on the ground 😂

Hehe. Same.

6 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Seeing Susan Flannery as Laura Horton was wild. I was so used to her butchy Stephanie towards the end of her run on B&B, it was wild to see her young and feminine.

Hehe. I bet.

Awww Nina and Drew...the way they were under PM was truly perfection. And glad I called that.

I think the closest now to organically paired similarly is Dani/Andre on BTG.

4 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I always get irritated when I see Michael being such a Quartermaine now and interacting with his family but still claiming Sonny. It’s one of the really dumb things the writers have kept up despite the brief period after AJ’s cold blooded murder that Michael cut out Sonny. Knowing all the history between AJ and Sonny including the murder, there should never be a world where Michael forgave Sonny let alone gave his children the Corinthos name.

Well if Michael ever falls out with Sonny again, you know Rory will bring it. :)

4 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I’m currently getting caught up and it’s all so maddening. This show could literally be great with some minor tweaks as it already is pretty watchable on a daily basis. But some of the things these writers double down on are just infuriating for me and remind me why I stopped watching for years.

VERY. I've been picking on it since I started regularly watching again. I give these writers credit that their second year is better than their first, but they still have annoying writing tics that I don't like. And you can tell which HW likes which story, too, which makes it worse when it's a potential good story and one likes it and the other one tries to wreck it.

I thought yesterday was finally exciting over in trial land. And while I do feel bad for Portia, I am not sure what she was expecting. Once she was subpoenaed this was bound to happen.

My issue with Drew is that he is practically a cartoon villain. There's no subtlety to him at all. I don't want him to go back to being a hero, but he doesn't even try to be likeable in public or even in front of Willow. The shooting shouldn't have changed his personality. It should have made him wiser though and made him keep his villainy less obvious.

16 minutes ago, carolineg said:

My issue with Drew is that he is practically a cartoon villain. There's no subtlety to him at all. I don't want him to go back to being a hero, but he doesn't even try to be likeable in public or even in front of Willow. The shooting shouldn't have changed his personality. It should have made him wiser though and made him keep his villainy less obvious.

I do miss the nuances that led up to him being like this for sure. It very much is giving cartoon. Though to be fair, this writers have Tracy being one note sometimes and JE still elevates their writing. There is more to Tracy than grumpy grandma.