Man, Slezak's still got it!  Especially that scene in tomorrow's previews - wow.  To confirm, because I was working while watching so maybe I missed it, but did Ronnie spike her own tea or did someone else? I couldn't tell if she purposefully got drunk or if someone got her that way.

I'll have to figure out why Nina and Willow are on shaky terms as mom/daughter.

I'm guessing the WSB is like some spy agency or something?

Great episode today! I loved seeing so many of the show's veteran actresses (and Erika Slezak) in a room together for the tea party scenes. Those kinds of big party scenes have mostly disappeared from soaps as budgets have gotten smaller, so I'm glad that Frank was able to work his budgetary magic to give us this one. 

But I have to say that Dante really sucks, both as a cop and as a brother. (And how does that whole "I'm still working on a murder investigation where you're one of the main suspects, but I'm interrogating you as your brother not as a cop" thing even work?) Michael looked like he was about to punch his sanctimonious big brother, and I wish he had. 

56 minutes ago, alwaysAMC said:

I'll have to figure out why Nina and Willow are on shaky terms as mom/daughter.

I'm guessing the WSB is like some spy agency or something?

The WSB has been around since the early '80s. It's the "good" spy agency, introduced through Robert Scorpio, IIRC (Anna's ex-husband, Emma's grandfather). Anna was both WSB and DVX (the "bad" spy agency). I'm sure someone else may know more. Faison, father of Britt and Nathan, was also DVX, I believe.

Willow and her sister Nelle were sold by their grandmother Madeline when they were babies. Nina didn't learn that Willow was her daughter until several years ago. They were never close, as Willow saw Nina as a bad person, but started to become closer until Willow learned that Nina had repeatedly slept with Drew last summer. (this was at the same time as Drew began his relationship with Willow, but Nina did not know)

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20 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

The WSB has been around since the early '80s. It's the "good" spy agency, introduced through Robert Scorpio, IIRC (Anna's ex-husband, Emma's grandfather). Anna was both WSB and DVX (the "bad" spy agency). I'm sure someone else may know more. Faison, father of Britt and Nathan, was also DVX, I believe.

Willow and her sister Nelle were sold by their grandmother Madeline when they were babies. Nina didn't learn that Willow was her daughter until several years ago. They were never close, as Willow saw Nina as a bad person, but started to become closer until Willow learned that Nina had repeatedly slept with Drew last summer. (this was at the same time as Drew began his relationship with Willow, but Nina did not know)

As always, you're the best!   I see why they're on shaky ground now!

Omg Ronnie cutting loose today was EVERYTHING! Erika had me cracking me up. Did I miss someone spike Ronnie’s drink or did she just want to get drunk? I’m fine either way 😂

Loved how Michael handled Dante today. RG has this darkness about the way he portrays Michael and I liked Dante verbalizing this shift since his return.

Any day Willow and Drew lose is a good day for me.

Poor Portia, of course Jordan figured out she’s pregnant already lol.

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-- Chris McKenna (Brennan) lost some weight and looks good.

-- I just asked last week: Can Laura Wright EVER do an emotional scene without screaming and yelling? She doesn't know the meaning of nuance.

-- Laura's remodeled kitchen already looks out of date.

-- The tea party at the Q's was fun, and I had to laugh at those salmon sandwiches. Doesn't everyone at a gathering want fish breath? And Portia gagging on that mushroom Olivia gave her?

-- Drunken Ronnie was hilarious! When she read Tracy for filth, I just about lost it! Erika Slezak can do it all.

-- Regardless the logic/content in Dante and Michael's argument, the acting was top notch, especially from Rory Gibson. He has really reinvented the Michael character in all the best ways.

-- The previews for tomorrow? Excellent.

-- Coming off Friday's Emmy win for Best Drama, this episode showed us why.

2 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

good.

-- I just asked last week: Can Laura Wright EVER do an emotional scene without screaming and yelling? She doesn't know the meaning of nuance.

Even Carly at 11 should have layers in her performance, and she used to bring them for the most part. I think part of the problem is outside her relationship with Jax, her Carly was primed for confrontation at all times during the first few years she played her. She doesn’t play quiet rage very well, and now the filming limitations bring out some of her worst instincts.

But I will take her going for the walls over MB mumbling and struggling with basic dialogue.

12 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

But I will take her going for the walls over MB mumbling and struggling with basic dialogue.

Same. LW has never not come to work. I would drop her for Sarah Brown returning as Carly in a hot second if it was up to me, but she has always done quite well in the role. The show fails her, she's never failed it. And with two specific exceptions she's had romantic chemistry with virtually everyone they've put her with.

Edited October 21Oct 21 by Vee

29 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Even Carly at 11 should have layers in her performance, and she used to bring them for the most part. I think part of the problem is outside her relationship with Jax, her Carly was primed for confrontation at all times during the first few years she played her. She doesn’t play quiet rage very well, and now the filming limitations bring out some of her worst instincts.

But I will take her going for the walls over MB mumbling and struggling with basic dialogue.

Your last line is exactly where I’m at with her. She’s not phoning it in and honestly I’ve just accepted Carly is loud 😂

Yeah, I might hate when Carly gets on the loose, but LW has NEVER phoned it in. 

I don't think it helps that there is no one for Carly to show vulnerability with. The character is so ossified. Losing a child should have had much more impact on her than it has.

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

I don't think it helps that there is no one for Carly to show vulnerability with. The character is so ossified. Losing a child should have had much more impact on her than it has.

This 1000%! The truth is the show had the trifecta of Jason/Sonny/Carly on our screens so much for so long, you would think there would be some in story evolution to them. But truthfully, Jason spending time with the Q family more is the only thing of consequence that has happened between the three of them in a long time. I’m not saying they didn’t evolve at all, just very little, and nothing seems to have an impact on them today.

Speak on that. Re: Jason and the Qs. And also he has been coming across more as a father than he has since the days of young Michael IMHO.

1 hour ago, titan1978 said:

But truthfully, Jason spending time with the Q family more is the only thing of consequence that has happened between the three of them in a long time. I’m not saying they didn’t evolve at all, just very little, and nothing seems to have an impact on them today.

It's the most evolution any of them have had in years, and ironically I think it only started to come about out of necessity, and partially a byproduct of them having no safe haven for Steve as all his first year return stories and chemistry tests flopped. If they're smart (which they occasionally are) they'll continue to play the angle of Jason as Guardian of the Qs (with Tracy) hard.

Edited October 21Oct 21 by Vee

Very.

 

BUT a good and well-deserved evolution. It's just a shame the potential from the beginning of Jason's return didn't get used cuz of...reasons. But still...his potential lives on. And him being the Guardian of the Qs should continue it thankfully.