4 minutes ago, Vee said:

It's the most well-developed of most of the storylines tbh lol. More of the core characters should be woven in. I still credit Guza for how Vanessa has developed.

I agree that Vanessa is totally a Guza character.. and the actress provides different flourishes to her scenes depending on if she's acting opposite Joey, Dani/Nicole, Bill/Hayley/SPS, and Doug.   She acts flirty/sexual with Joey, caring friend with Dani/Nicole, snarky with Bill/Hayley/SPS, and being concerned/wistful with Doug.

Now... Silk Press Sheila in this episode had her acting campy (like Gina Demott of Santa Barbara fame) with Eva and subtle/hopeful with Anita.   I think the campy stuff is a front in order for SPS to protect herself from getting hurt.   The actress does try to infuse some layers in the character.. but she can only do so much with writing that veers into camp.

1 minute ago, Soaplovers said:

Now... Silk Press Sheila in this episode had her acting campy (like Gina Demott of Santa Barbara fame) with Eva and subtle/hopeful with Anita.   I think the campy stuff is a front in order for SPS to protect herself from getting hurt.   The actress does try to infuse some layers in the character.. but she can only do so much with writing that veers into camp.

I don't think they always give her enough depth in the moment vs. trying to backfill it later. But I don't blame TMG for that (or Ambyr Michelle for how Eva has been inconsistent, as I said yesterday). I think the dialogue staff needs a lot of refreshing lol.

I will say I think Brandon Claybon was very good this week being the rock for the family and the voice of reason with Smitty. Martin was strong in that role, not cold or unstable as he started out.

Edited September 19Sep 19 by Vee

Awww darn you, Show! I was hating SilkPress all episode, but this scene with Anita turning into an actual serious conversation is doing wonders for her and Anita. This is what I want to see more of. And scheming. I just hope that Anita saying there would be no Articulates without Barbara to her does not come back to bite her since the Devon subplot is still out there. 

 

Bill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol. Not you throwing Vanessa under the bus. 

 

And here we go...Nicole vs Ted. 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Vee said:

Vanessa has been talking about that for a long time. As I mentioned the other day, she had some great scenes a few months ago with Nicole bitterly talking about being the lonely suburban wife at home who now felt empowered. She couched it as being about the affair, but this was at the same time she had just gone all in with Joey and his criminal dealings and told him she wanted a piece. It's the same arc we've seen Guza women do before.

True, but through all the other storylines and preemptions, it was really nice to get a refresher on where Vanessa's head is before the next beat in the storyline.

Okay, Show, I was about to get angry. Well-played with the fantasy.

 

I respect that Ted did not try to lie. That said...YASSSSS NICOLE!!! Free yourself!!!

 

And next week...Looks like we are finally going to get the next beat in the Doug/Vanessa/Joey storyline. Good.

I think the Doug/Vanessa/Joey is about to get good and messy.

 

Spoiler

With Doug's death looming. Vanessa may finally try and take Joey down meanwhile you have Randy who's most likely going to have some resentment towards Bill and will probably use Hayley to get revenge. Spoilers say Hayley will have a surprising family connection and I think its Randy

 

As it should be. Excited.

1 hour ago, Taoboi said:

And I am here for the USHER shoutout. I hate to say it...but Andre is going to wind up winning me back over, ain't he? Cuz him and Dani are great today. Yaaas Dani at loving Usher. 

Hahaha, I loved this.

1 hour ago, Taoboi said:

OMG, SHOW, QUIT!!! That Andre/Dani montage was everything. 

OMG yes it was.

1 hour ago, Taoboi said:

TAKE OFF THE EARRINGS, ANITA!!!

Is that a reference to

 

I do wonder if the Joey/Vanessa/Doug story is going to climax and/or hit the next stage in the story because Guza will soon be leaving the credits so I have a feeling he's going to set up the next stage of the story so that his replacement can try to guide it to the next stage (though my instincts say that this Tracy T replacement is too similar to MVJ when some of the best head writer duos have different strengths and don't always agree).

I'm also concerned about Thomson, who I don't remember as anything but a GH staffer in late Guza II. But whatever, great has come from less.

1 hour ago, MontyB said:

The Ted and Nicole scene got to me. I completely get why she walked away.

I loved the Andre/Dani scenes. I have to admit they are good together. 

My poor Dougie. It's not looking so good. 

The acting was sooooo good! Alot was said without much being said. The two have alot of chemistry

While Wednesday episode was a low point for me as a viewer, Thursday and Friday made up for it as both episodes built up anticipation for next week. Loved the dialogue and character interactions. Bring on next week! This one was where characters were set up to be players in the next phases of their stories.

2 hours ago, MontyB said:

The Ted and Nicole scene got to me. I completely get why she walked away.

I loved the Andre/Dani scenes. I have to admit they are good together. 

My poor Dougie. It's not looking so good. 

Yes Im rooting for those two crazy kids. Its a going to be a long messy road but they're gonna make it.

Dandre has me not gonna lie.

Man I better get me a new suit and put some PTO in because Doug finna go to glory 

Lord Doug is defintely a goner. He was so Smyrna and stupid today , it’s almost sad. He really has no idea how in over his head he is. Hopefully his death ushers his kids on canvas.

-- I enjoyed the Nicole and Ted scenes. Everything else? Not so much.

-- Doug seems to be hurtling towards death, but I hate that they're writing him as this stupid and careless. I mean, what is his plan? Go to Orphey Gene's and hear Randy LOUDLY bark "I might know somebody"?

-- Why is Randy acting like this?

-- Bill knows how dangerous Joey is. So why throw Doug under the bus in that way?

-- I DO NOT want to watch Joey and Vanessa in bed. I DO NOT want to see them screw. Please get Joey off my screen.

-- I'm all for Vanessa having a piece of the action, but as a realtor selling homes worth millions, isn't she already wealthy?

-- I want Eva to tell her mother something other than "Oh, maw-ma!" It's a constant enabling that's already tired.

-- I absolutely hated the Anita/Leslie scenes. The acting was fine. That's not the problem, which is that Anita should not be kind to Leslie -- not with the sh_it Leslie has pulled on her and on the family. Leslie wrecked her daughter's marriage, purchased the mansion across the street, and bought her way into Fairmont Crest. Anita should HATE her for all of that.

-- And no, Anita, Barbara did not come up with "Articulettes Strong." GMAFB.

-- Are Andre and Dani going to get drunk and get married in Vegas, a la Ross and Rachel in Friends?

-- Those previews don't do much for me.

-- Yes, BTG is 100x better than Y&R. But that's really a low bar. We all know Y&R is beyond horrible. I want GATES to be better than this, and I don't think this was a good week.