20 minutes ago, Vee said:

Oh, I wouldn't let her actually have it. I'd just do an affair and maybe a fake or quickly miscarried baby.

Okay.

How would that help Willow's agenda at all? 

I don't mind if breaking up BLQ/Chase is her only agenda, but I'd rather some nutty scheme that Willow thinks will help her get her kids back.

What are your ideas to play that story out?

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17 minutes ago, carolineg said:

How would that help Willow's agenda at all? 

I don't mind if breaking up BLQ/Chase is her only agenda, but I'd rather some nutty scheme that Willow thinks will help her get her kids back.

What are your ideas to play that story out?

I'd honestly just have her crash out and ruin their marriage spitefully because she could after what the Qs have done to her, lol. It's not that deep. But you make a fair point. Maybe she can work some angle where cop Chase frames up Michael in some way, or she gets access to the mansion in order to drug Michael or something or mess with his PTSD. idk, I'm flexible!

36 minutes ago, Vee said:

I'd honestly just have her crash out and ruin their marriage spitefully because she could after what the Qs have done to her, lol. It's not that deep. But you make a fair point. Maybe she can work some angle where cop Chase frames up Michael in some way, or she gets access to the mansion in order to drug Michael or something or mess with his PTSD. idk, I'm flexible!

I'd do something totally crazy like have Willow drug Michael with opiates and pretend to sleep with him.  While leaving the Q mansion Chase catches her.  He's drunk because he and Brook Lynn got into another fight about a baby and Willow seduces him.   Willow gets pregnant, tells Michael he's the dad, but also blackmails him about the opiates.  Michael, thinking he did take the opiates and slept with Willow gives her some form of custody, maybe even contemplates a reunion.  Willow loses the baby, but someone inadvertently finds out its Chase's.  Chaos ensues!  Brook/Chase breakup, Michael gets his kids back, and Willow goes off to the looney bin or jail for awhile.

A lot of details would have to be figured out, but I want maximum destruction from Willow.

18 minutes ago, carolineg said:

A lot of details would have to be figured out, but I want maximum destruction from Willow.

I do think Willow could con Michael into almost going for a reunion, but I would have her fúck with his mental state which has already been indicated to be on edge again since the bombing. Michael is at his most unpredictable and volatile these days since his teen years.

Through that torture of Michael (and possibly by leveraging Chase's PCPD connections to do so) she would get a shot at the kids. There's just so many options. Gaslighting Michael and wrecking Chase and BLQ would be just the beginning.

But ultimately I would probably have her shotgun marry Drew Q after all for awhile, purely out of convenience/power. And before she finally got her endgame comeuppance at some point, she would absolutely fake her cancer returning lol. I would play the long game and she when she does finally exit for good in a few years she goes out hard like Susan Moore, Heather in the '70s, etc. There's so much to play when the right good girl breaks bad.

Probably too far afield and campy, but you could even have her do a turn as a wellness influencer, trading on her tragic cult past and reinventing herself with her 'new beginning' after she claims to have been used and abused by Drew and Michael to become a kind of online/social media cult maven unto herself like the Apple Cider Vinegar, tradmoms, etc. scene to gain fame and fortune lol. Not unlike the cult she came from in a way.

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7 minutes ago, Vee said:

I'd honestly just have her crash out and ruin their marriage spitefully because she could after what the Qs have done to her, lol. It's not that deep. But you make a fair point. Maybe she can work some angle where cop Chase frames up Michael in some way, or she gets access to the mansion in order to drug Michael or something or mess with his PTSD. idk, I'm flexible!

This could be used as part of the story I wanted with Brook Lynn falling for Dante. Maybe Willow could somehow use Chase to cause conflict between Gio and Michael, with their Sonny connection.

14 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

This could be used as part of the story I wanted with Brook Lynn falling for Dante. 

I didn't know you wanted that - do tell.

A few years ago, when Setton was relatively new and Lulu was in her coma and the whole Mormon look hadn't fully set in, I definitely wanted to pair up BLQ and Dante for kind of screwball Nick and Nora/Thin Man-style mystery-solving romance (in the vein of stuff like A Simple Favor with Anna Kendrick), with Brook getting into capers and Dante helping her out of it. Then Lulu would wake up and that would be the obvious triangle. Today BLQ is so much more of a matronly wet blanket and Alexa Havins is here, so it's different.

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Obrecht is f.ucking delusional. I’m so sick of them trying to make Dante and Lulu the bad guys while this crazy bitch calls herself Rocco’s grandmother. Brook Lynn really opened up all of this craziness and deserves to be slapped again.

19 hours ago, Vee said:

I do think Willow could con Michael into almost going for a reunion, but I would have her fúck with his mental state which has already been indicated to be on edge again since the bombing. Michael is at his most unpredictable and volatile these days since his teen years.

Through that torture of Michael (and possibly by leveraging Chase's PCPD connections to do so) she would get a shot at the kids. There's just so many options. Gaslighting Michael and wrecking Chase and BLQ would be just the beginning.

But ultimately I would probably have her shotgun marry Drew Q after all for awhile, purely out of convenience/power. And before she finally got her endgame comeuppance at some point, she would absolutely fake her cancer returning lol. I would play the long game and she when she does finally exit for good in a few years she goes out hard like Susan Moore, Heather in the '70s, etc. There's so much to play when the right good girl breaks bad.

Probably too far afield and campy, but you could even have her do a turn as a wellness influencer, trading on her tragic cult past and reinventing herself with her 'new beginning' after she claims to have been used and abused by Drew and Michael to become a kind of online/social media cult maven unto herself like the Apple Cider Vinegar, tradmoms, etc. scene to gain fame and fortune lol. Not unlike the cult she came from in a way.

Oddly enough I can definitely see Willow becoming a tradwife social media influencer. That could be very interesting if done right. 

I'm mostly curious as to why so much of the story momentum was derailed just for these other elements. I guess once Frank knew he could bring Britt and Liesl back that was where his heart went. 

12 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I'm mostly curious as to why so much of the story momentum was derailed just for these other elements. I guess once Frank knew he could bring Britt and Liesl back that was where his heart went. 

I would be surprised if Frank is that enamored of Kelly T. at this point tbh given her many BTS antics. From my memory he has a limited tolerance for that, and I don't think she's one of his most treasured friends. He also had no trouble cutting Gati when Obrecht became irrelevant a couple years ago. I think they're just bound and determined to put Jason over again and justify Steve's contract and make him a primary player once more vs. hanging around the Quartermaine mansion supporting the family (where, oddly enough, he fits like a glove and has done his best work this time), and Britt is the Last Chance Saloon to make that happen.

As I've said recently though, I think their chemistry and the allure of the path not taken with Jason/Britt a few years ago has a limited shelf life. KT is not strong enough for A-story with Steve, she's not a star player like most of his past love interests, and I think the bloom will come off the rose and she'll go again eventually, possibly under the wheels of some other preferred partner.

On a side note: Hearing from Steve's podcast that KT has, once again, left most of her IRL belongings in London after moving there in a huff when she quit last time and still hasn't found a place in L.A. makes me just think 'yikes.'

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6 minutes ago, Vee said:

I would be surprised if Frank is that enamored of Kelly T. at this point tbh given her many BTS antics. From my memory he has a limited tolerance for that, and I don't think she's one of his most treasured friends. He also had no trouble cutting Gati when Obrecht became irrelevant a couple years ago. I think they're just bound and determined to put Jason over again and justify Steve's contract and make him a primary player once more vs. hanging around the Quartermaine mansion supporting the family (where, oddly enough, he fits like a glove and has done his best work this time), and Britt is the Last Chance Saloon to make that happen.

As I've said recently though, I think their chemistry and the allure of the path not taken with Jason/Britt a few years ago has a limited shelf life. KT is not strong enough for A-story with Steve, she's not a star player like most of his past love interests, and I think the bloom will come off the rose and she'll go again eventually, possibly under the wheels of some other preferred partner.

I definitely see his agenda about Jason...it's just weird to me they threw away a lot of natural drama with Dante, Lulu, Brook Lynn, Chase, for Liesl telling everyone she is a proud granny. I think the momentum with Gio in story with his bio parents is pretty much gone, which is a shame.

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5 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I definitely see his agenda about Jason...it's just weird to me they threw away a lot of natural drama with Dante, Lulu, Brook Lynn, Chase, for Liesl telling everyone she is a proud granny. I think the momentum with Gio in story with his bio parents is pretty much gone, which is a shame.

That's typical of GH and this creative team though, tbh. Like so many of us have said in the past, I don't think that story ever had a huge amount of heft beyond the big reveal - both Dante and BLQ are decent people. I think the performances around the reveal were excellent, I think Mazza is a star as is Braedyn Bruner and they're very good together, and I think they should definitely be featured more in central story, instead of this noxious redemption tour for Britt and Obrecht the Mengele fangurl. But GH and FV's priorities have clearly shifted to saving Jason's role on the show and justifying his presence, and that means going all in on Britt.

I don't think it'll last, though. One unintended side effect of all this for them is that while I may have hated Britt for over a decade, viewers who were previously lukewarm on her are turning on her hard over this hard sell and how Dante, Lulu, etc. are being treated.

30 minutes ago, Vee said:

On a side note: Hearing from Steve's podcast that KT has, once again, left most of her IRL belongings in London after moving there in a huff when she quit last time and still hasn't found a place in L.A. makes me just think 'yikes.'

From a woman who was once engaged to Bryan Craig and has quit 3 or 4 time "forever" this does not surprise me lol.  She obviously makes great personal choices.