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41 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

On the subject of sets (seems more interesting to discuss than the actual show) 

Some sets we don't see anymore

Lauren/Michael apartment (haven't seen that in years)

Victoria's house (are Marian/Tessa living there?)

Apartment above Crimson Lights (I think Chelsea was the last resident)

Penthouse (Lily's home)

Chancellor Estate (Devon/Abby)

Chancellor office (once Dark Horse)

Nick's house

GCAC room (used as residence/hotel room for several characters)

Some of these may pop up again. The tack house,for example, was not seen for many months before being used again.

Have I missed anything?

 

Victoria's house (that she long ago lived in with Billy) burned down (I think Aunt Jordan set it ablaze?).
Victoria briefly moved into the ranch after the fire, with Claire, Johnny and Katie, I think?

Mariah and Tessa and baby Aria had been living in the tack house but they bought a house we've never seen and moved there.

Victoria, Claire, and Cole then moved into the tack house as soon as Teriah left.

I guess Victoria's children Johnny and Katie would live with Victoria at the tack house eventually?
But Johnny and Katie went to boarding school during the school year. Not sure if we'll see Johnny and Katie for the summer vacation or where they would live.

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6 minutes ago, janea4old said:

Victoria's house (that she long ago lived in with Billy) burned down (I think Aunt Jordan set ablaze?).

Of course, how could I have forgotten those thrilling episodes depicting the fire?

Also we had the GCAC rooftop set that came out every Summer.

Moving on to Friday's episode. Victor is propped in his chair, answers his cell and tells the caller 'Let him in'.

Seconds later Kyle enters. So does Victor have security on the front porch?

It would have been better had Victor taken the call, and then said to himself 'Well Kyle, let's see what you have to say'and fade out. Next scene Kyle enters, indicating that the first call was from the Ranch entrance and time had passed .

Nit picky but I get frustrated when they do stuff like that.

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4 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

Duncan McKechnie Is Mariah’s mystery man….???? 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

GROSS. Michael Swan was hot back in his ATWT days. Now he's 76 and WAY past his hot years.

 

 

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https://x.com/JermaineRivers/status/1922782226317529409

 


 

 

https://x.com/JermaineRivers/status/1931204864136396907


 

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/DKlkAAruG3k/
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#theyoungandtherestless #damiankane #instagood

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

GROSS. Michael Swan was hot back in his ATWT days. Now he's 76 and WAY past his hot years.

 

 

I would enjoy it if Swan popped up on BTG as an old one time friend/mentor of Anita’s for a cameo. This is just 🤢🤢🤢🤢

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I think the gross ickiness is Josh Griffith's intention.

At birth, Ian Ward stole Mariah from Sharon, so that Sharon knew only of the Cassie twin and not the Mariah twin.  Sharon gave up Cassie for adoption at birth, never knowing that Mariah existed.
When Ian Ward stole baby Mariah, he had her be raised by a woman member of his cult. She grew up in his cult.

Years later, after Mariah was an adult in Genoa City and had left him, he tried to kidnap her to marry him himself, I sort of remember some icky scenes where he had arranged a wedding, but she escaped or was rescued -- it was so gross that I chose to forget it, and I don't want to look up the details.

Mariah is feeling traumatized/triggered by Ian Ward being in Genoa City several months ago, because he was obsessed with her, and he terrorized her loved ones, interacted with Tessa, and drugged Sharon, which ultimately resulted in the death of Heather -- causing the grief of Daniel and Lucy.

None of that was Mariah's fault. But she was so horrified by what happened, that she feels she did something wrong that caused this hateful villain to continue to obsess about her.  

Based on small comments that Mariah made recently, I think she feels completely worthless.
I gather that when she was away on the business trip a month or two ago, all of what happened with Ian Ward and Heather's death just hit her all at once and she was mentally/emotionally collapsing, and just felt unable to call for help.  During the business trip she sat in her hotel room and spiraled more, feeling more and more worthless and afraid.

Finally she started drinking at a bar, and that's when the creepy old man approached her.  By that point, she wasn't in her right mind, and started interacting with the guy.  Either she thought he was Ian, or she thought he was someone like Ian, and she would be *required* to flirt with him in a role play, and do what he commanded, almost like old programming being reactivated.  Or perhaps just simple self-loathing playing out.

I don't know if the guy actually knew Ian or Jordan, or if he was a random stranger.  But Mariah's fear/loathing/subconscious chaos kicked in. And then... well that's as far as her flashbacks have aired so far. She can't bear to face the rest of whatever it was.  I gather that in the coming episodes, we'll (eventually) find out what happened next as we see more of the icky flashbacks.

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The rest of this post is only my speculation: I think that she felt like she was supposed to have sex with him but didn't want to, and may have tried to kill him instead. Or he r*ped her.  Or they didn't have sex at all, but it's all convoluted in her mind.  Something horrible happened but I don't think it was her fault.  If the man died, maybe she covered it up?  I really don't know, I'm just speculating ideas.

At any rate, I'm totally convinced that this is NOT a conventional "cheating storyline" where someone willingly has sex outside their relationship.

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This is basically Josh Griffith's obsession with dark storylines, creepy villains, and terrible writing of "mental health issues".

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33 minutes ago, janea4old said:

This is basically Josh Griffith's obsession with dark storylines, creepy villains, and terrible writing of "mental health issues".

I appreciate your POV and ideas here. I don't, however, trust Josh Griffith to make this anything like a good story. My guess is that much of it will be off-camera and that we'll have to be happy with Mariah retelling the nightmare in bits and pieces.

Meanwhile, Tessa will still be strumming her damn guitar with Daniel. Ugh.

I know I'm negative about this show. I am hate watching with every fiber of my being, and there's nothing about it that's working for me. I never recall Y&R being worse.

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26 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

I don't, however, trust Josh Griffith to make this anything like a good story. My guess is that much of it will be off-camera and that we'll have to be happy with Mariah retelling the nightmare in bits and pieces.

Meanwhile, Tessa will still be strumming her damn guitar with Daniel. Ugh.

Yeah that's likely the case and it will all be awful.

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@janea4old Your detailed explanation and delving into the psychology and motivations is no doubt the opposite of what we will see onscreeen.

As @ranger1rg stated we will get a few scenes and some sketchy explanations.

Like the adoption of Aria, most of it will take place off screen.

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Isnt’t this storyline similar to the Cameron Kirsten situation though? Sharon thought she killed him. He ended up being alive and Sharon was being tormented with thinking she was seeing his face everywhere and that’s how we got that iconic scene with her and Nikki in the sewers.

 

I understand in Mariah’s case this is different circumstances but it does seem like a play on that whole thing. Maybe I’m wrong. I just wish if they were going to make any character follow in Sharon’s foot steps it would be Faith. Mariah wasn’t even raised by her, and her personality is different. I would expect her to take a different path. I understand I could be completely jumping ahead because the storyline hasn’t even played out yet but we’ll see. 

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1 hour ago, Ryanc2 said:

Isn’t this storyline similar to the Cameron Kirsten situation though? Sharon thought she killed him. He ended up being alive and Sharon was being tormented with thinking she was seeing his face everywhere and that’s how we got that iconic scene with her and Nikki in the sewers.

I understand in Mariah’s case this is different circumstances but it does seem like a play on that whole thing.


Oh yes defintely, Josh Griffith repeats and repeats the same storylines.

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6-3

 

I almost let my system just delete the episode just like with B&B. I am now questioning if I should have. lol.

 

I just can't believe that Cole sat there and started to get sick and then only Victoria off and ran off and everyone basically went back to what they were doing at Nikki's birthday party. Cole was too much of a vet character for that. And now story back off-screen.

 

I did chuckle at how much Victor pay Kyle dust. And now Kyle with this deal and a promise to leave town if he hurts Claire. smh. As if Victor isn't going to make that happen.

 

It was lovely to see Ashley. And actually (misdressed and all) Abby. 

 

And I liked Claire's dress. 

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On 6/5/2025 at 11:58 PM, Antoyne said:

Ooo @TaoboiI will say I just watched Amanda give it to Abby and I loved it. Honestly just made me miss Hilary more. I will never understand or get over that decision to kill her off.

Also call me crazy but I could definitely see the Damian actor playing NuTed on BTG. Very much still enjoying the Lily attraction.

Amanda has been giving it to Abby ever since her and Chance walked in on them together. So great to hear.

 

I can see that. Lily and Damian are always a highlight to me. 

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