I only saw part of the credits for today's episode but Rick Draughon was not listed with the breakdown writers. I didn't see the script writer list because YouTube vid was distorted. Can someone confirm if Rick was listed with the script writer? Wonder if it was a mistake and he was just left off. His linkedin profile still shows he's employed at Days. 

49 minutes ago, VelekaCarruthers said:

I only saw part of the credits for today's episode but Rick Draughon was not listed with the breakdown writers. I didn't see the script writer list because YouTube vid was distorted. Can someone confirm if Rick was listed with the script writer? Wonder if it was a mistake and he was just left off. His linkedin profile still shows he's employed at Days. 

Yes, he's the first after the space after Ryan Quan, so the first listed of the Breakdown Writers. Probably just got cut off the top of the next screen, if you know what I mean. 

The Cat/ISA thing is strange.  Her backstory is strange.  Cat seems too goofy to be an ISA analyst, but maybe they'll finally give the character some direction.

Kind of a dull show today.  I am glad at least Tony is slightly concerned about Stefan.

I don't know what's worse, Cat Greene in the ISA or Josslyn Jacks in the WSB.

I actually really enjoyed today's episode. Perfect everyday soap opera.

I'm all for Cat being an ISA agent because, if today is any indication, the material is much more in AnnaLynne McCord's wheelhouse, instead of her looking a demented idiot when trying to be romantic and cutesy.

It was good to see Tony again, finally! He should have been seen somewhere amidst John's death/memorial episodes. I was pleasantly surprised with the Stefan mention. I wouldn't have blinked if he wasn't, but it's smart to keep that plate turning in the distance, especially with Shane implying EJ had help in buying the hospital. 

Gabi/Chad were a refreshing interaction. I hope he stands his ground and doesn't go to work for DiMera. He feels much more rootable, and like a Horton living with Julie, working at The Spectator, being a family man. I don't want him corrupted. There were two things I hated during their scenes though, and both were said by Gabi. 1) When she said her date with Alex was boring, because I thought they worked well together and felt like they had the makings for a solid friendship. 2) When she said Chad didn't grow up with money, when he definitely did. He was a spoiled, privileged brat. 

Jennifer has always been a worrier, and it makes sense to me that after Abby was brutally murdered that her worries would be dialed up to 11 and she'd be a lot more concerned about who is let in to her family's lives. However, I've been enjoying JJ/Gabi and have been hoping to get back to them, so I hope this is just a good obstacle, and we can build a solid longing between them and not them being done for good.

50 minutes ago, janea4old said:

I don't know what's worse, Cat Greene in the ISA or Josslyn Jacks in the WSB.

Josslyn Jacks WSB.

At least Cat was an analyst and not working in the field like Joss is after a month of training.

42 minutes ago, Bright Eyes said:

 There were two things I hated during their scenes though, and both were said by Gabi. 1) When she said her date with Alex was boring, because I thought they worked well together and felt like they had the makings for a solid friendship.

I wonder if a Gabi/Alex relationship was part of Ron’s projection, but Paula/Jeanne decided not to follow up with it 

Edited June 23Jun 23 by AbcNbc247

Okay, I think I’ve finally cracked the Cat Greene timeline. This has been bugging me for weeks, and now that we’ve had a few more reveals, it actually does make sense.

So here’s what happened.

The Greene family—Mr. Greene, Katharina, Mark, Cat, Felicity, and Aaron—originally lived in Vancouver. For over 30 years, they were full-time Canadians. Then about three or four years ago, there was a major car accident.  The Greene parents were believed to have died, and Cat was badly injured. She needed extensive reconstructive surgery, which explains why none of her siblings recognized her when she resurfaced.

Now here’s the key bit: After her surgery, Cat was somehow informed—either by ISA or through her own investigation—that their mother, Katharina, wasn’t actually dead. She was being held captive by Clyde Weston. Enter Shane Donovan.

Cat gets recruited by the ISA as an analyst, not a field agent, which probably means she’s great with tech and surveillance (I’m picturing her in front of a laptop, breaking through Clyde’s crypto holdings). While she’s working this case, she likely pieces together where her mother is and who’s behind it.

She tells Mark. And Mark, who is already basically raising Aaron and Felicity, applies for a residency at Salem University Hospital—probably both for career reasons and to get closer to where Cat’s investigation is leading. He gets the job, and the whole family moves to Salem. That’s the first time the Greene siblings are actually in Salem full-time.

But then Clyde strikes. He kidnaps Cat—probably because she was getting too close to the truth—and holds her in the same place as John Black. Chad eventually rescues her, but that's a set-up for the entire “fake Abigail” plan.  Which the ISA must have known about.

This explains why Andrew told Chad that Cat wouldn't be prosecuted after he was in attendance at the wedding in Paris last year when Mark tried to shoot Chad.  Because Andrew would've known Cat was ISA.  IRL, it also explains the odd timing of Andrew's wedding occurring so soon after the funeral.  I predict they wanted Andrew and Shane to dump all this exposition now, so that explains Andrew's sudden urge to get married on a Monday in a public park, given that he's been engaged to Paul since Thanksgiving 2024.  I also predict @AbcNbc247  isn't going to like it if Cat becomes the focus of Andrew's wedding.

Unfortunately, poor Mark and his mother are still in jail---which is what Shane is probably using to get Cat to got back to her analysis work (it also would explain her being a good assistant to Marlena, she's good with schedules and keeping secrets  -- but given her ISA training she may have been vastly underpaid by Marlena for such a skilled work.

It also explains the inclusion of the meth angle to the Versavix story, and that might bring back Shawn's old schoolmate Asher.  Asher seems to have definitely been a more recent addition, which suggests to me that the retcon of Cat as an ISA agent was probably not part of RonC's vision for the character.  I realize the character of Asher was previously established.  But his proximity to the meth lab seems to be an invention of the writers who wrote John's death scene. 

That concludes by book report on Cat Greene….

Edited June 23Jun 23 by j swift

26 minutes ago, j swift said:

Okay, I think I’ve finally cracked the Cat Greene timeline. This has been bugging me for weeks, and now that we’ve had a few more reveals, it actually does make sense.

So here’s what happened.

The Greene family—Mr. Greene, Katharina, Mark, Cat, Felicity, and Aaron—originally lived in Vancouver. For over 30 years, they were full-time Canadians. Then about three or four years ago, there was a major car accident.  The Greene parents were believed to have died, and Cat was badly injured. She needed extensive reconstructive surgery, which explains why none of her siblings recognized her when she resurfaced.

Now here’s the key bit: After her surgery, Cat was somehow informed—either by ISA or through her own investigation—that their mother, Katharina, wasn’t actually dead. She was being held captive by Clyde Weston. Enter Shane Donovan.

Cat gets recruited by the ISA as an analyst, not a field agent, which probably means she’s great with tech and surveillance (I’m picturing her in front of a laptop, breaking through Clyde’s crypto holdings). While she’s working this case, she likely pieces together where her mother is and who’s behind it.

She tells Mark. And Mark, who is already basically raising Aaron and Felicity, applies for a residency at Salem University Hospital—probably both for career reasons and to get closer to where Cat’s investigation is leading. He gets the job, and the whole family moves to Salem. That’s the first time the Greene siblings are actually in Salem full-time.

But then Clyde strikes. He kidnaps Cat—probably because she was getting too close to the truth—and holds her in the same place as John Black. Chad eventually rescues her, but that's a set-up for the entire “fake Abigail” plan.  Which the ISA must have known about.

This explains why Andrew told Chad that Cat wouldn't be prosecuted after he was in attendance at the wedding in Paris last year when Mark tried to shoot Chad.  Because Andrew would've known Cat was ISA.  IRL, it also explains the odd timing of Andrew's wedding occurring so soon after the funeral.  I predict they wanted Andrew and Shane to dump all this exposition now, so that explains Andrew's sudden urge to get married on a Monday in a public park, given that he's been engaged to Paul since Thanksgiving 2024.  I also predict @AbcNbc247  isn't going to like it if Cat becomes the focus of Andrew's wedding.

Unfortunately, poor Mark and his mother are still in jail---which is what Shane is probably using to get Cat to got back to her analysis work (it also would explain her being a good assistant to Marlena, she's good with schedules and keeping secrets  -- but given her ISA training she may have been vastly underpaid by Marlena for such a skilled work.

It also explains the inclusion of the meth angle to the Versavix story, and that might bring back Shawn's old schoolmate Asher.  Asher seems to have definitely been a more recent addition, which suggests to me that the retcon of Cat as an ISA agent was probably not part of RonC's vision for the character.  I realize the character of Asher was previously established.  But his proximity to the meth lab seems to be an invention of the writers who wrote John's death scene. 

That concludes by book report on Cat Greene….

Good. But I believe the car accident happened because of her work with the ISA which is why they covered her surgery

Also Grandma Elizabeth was with them in Canada too as she had escaped from Konstantin with Catharina. Maybe Mr Greene was a local Vancouver lad

16 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

But I believe the car accident happened because of her work with the ISA which is why they covered her surgery

I considered that, but she must have been recruited after the accident, because it is inferred that Shane's promise to help retrieve Katharina (who Cat thought had died in the accident) is the reason Cat joined the ISA. 

Thus, the car accident must have been truly an accident.  But, Clyde and the ISA used the Greene's unawareness of Katharina's survival of the accident as leverage to get Cat on their side.  

Amusingly, she's the daytime version of Chloe O'Brian from 24, except of course, in Salem even the data analysts look like supermodels.

Edited June 23Jun 23 by j swift

47 minutes ago, j swift said:

it also explains the odd timing of Andrew's wedding occurring so soon after the funeral.  I predict they wanted Andrew and Shane to dump all this exposition now, so that explains Andrew's sudden urge to get married on a Monday in a public park, given that he's been engaged to Paul since Thanksgiving 2024.

But Paul said *John* encouraged getting married as soon as possible, but he told Marlena he'd wait, because it might seem insensitive after the funeral --  and Marlena said go ahead, John would have wanted you to -- so they're getting married now while everyone is in town.
  Pretty sure that's really what Paul is thinking.  I don't know what Andrew would be thinking, but I assumed that he's just supporting his love.
Regarding getting married in the park, well that's common for Salem in the summertime, due to unwillingness to use extra sets.   The spoiler pics show a lot of thought went into the wardrobe of the wedding party.

I really hope the wedding is happening now -- for love and family reasons.  I don't want it to be tainted by an ISA plot.

Edited June 23Jun 23 by janea4old

36 minutes ago, janea4old said:

But Paul said *John* encouraged getting married as soon as possible, but he told Marlena he'd wait, because it might seem insensitive after the funeral --  and Marlena said go ahead, John would have wanted you to -- so they're getting married now while everyone is in town.
  Pretty sure that's really what Paul is thinking.  I don't know what Andrew would be thinking, but I assumed that he's just supporting his love.
Regarding getting married in the park, well that's common for Salem in the summertime, due to unwillingness to use extra sets.   The spoiler pics show a lot of thought went into the wardrobe of the wedding party.

I really hope the wedding is happening now -- for love and family reasons.  I don't want it to be tainted by an ISA plot.

I think we're conflating two different things.

You're recapping Andrew's on-screen reasoning for getting married.

I'm suggesting how the writers and producers might have planned to get the maximum amount of content given budget limits.  I assume it was probably cheaper to kill three birds with one stone.  That way they could film, (1) the funeral, (2), Andrew's wedding, and (3) fit in Cat's backstory, while only needing the actors to appear in a limited amount of scenes.  In other words, while it would be nice if we could bask in the glow of Paul and Andrew's love.  It would've cost more to have Shane and Andrew come back at a later date to fill in Cat's backstory.

My attempt at humor may not have landed.  But, I was commenting on the idea that Paul and Andrew got engaged before Sofia knew she was pregnant.  So, they've already waited awhile.  Thus, they didn't need to get married two days after one of the groom's father's funeral.  But, it was convenient given the real life status of the actors and their availability. 🤭

Furthermore, if we extrapolate from Cat being re-set as an ISA analyst (like Chloe from 24), it also provides a clever way for DAYS to tell espionage stories in the future.  Cat could be in contact with agents in the field like Andrew, and communicate their whereabouts and capers to viewers, without having to build shoddy sets and pretend it looks like a Parisian hotel suite.  I mean, the series 24 could've been made for $24 an episode if the whole story was told from Chloe's POV at CTU-Los Angeles. 🥸

Edited June 23Jun 23 by j swift

One more thing (sorry in advance for being so long-winded today)

Okay, but here’s the part of EJ’s logic that doesn’t make any sense.

He says he found the hidden camera, removed the memory card, and then he was shot. The footage on the card shows Johnny in the room, possibly with a gun, before EJ removed the card. That means the last thing the camera recorded was Johnny being there—not the shooting.

So if Johnny was on camera and EJ removed the card afterward, then Johnny clearly left before the shooting happened. He can’t be the shooter unless the camera magically stopped recording early—which it didn’t.

This isn’t ambiguous. The timeline on-screen actually exonerates Johnny, not implicates him. I’m not sure why EJ’s acting like this is proof against Johnny, unless he’s just panicked and not thinking straight.

Spoiler

I overthought it and wondered if Tony not mentioning the failure in logic to EJ (as the only other person aware of the contents on the memory stick) implicated Tony as the shooter (as if by focusing EJ's heat on Johnny, he is taking the suspecion off someone else.  Because it makes no sense that Tony would agree with EJ's theory of Johnny as the shooter.  Rachel can also exonerate Johnny because she never heard a gun shot after observing Johnny with the gun.

 

Edited June 24Jun 24 by j swift

*takes a very deep breath*

 

I done put it off long enough...

Eeeeeeeeee!!