@Taoboi I know Sean Freeman is not Shemar Moore level, but I don't put SF in the fake-ass Shemar category.

5 minutes ago, kalbir said:

@Taoboi I know Sean Freeman is not Shemar Moore level, but I don't put SF in the fake-ass Shemar category.

Well who can say? Shemar was green once. And he grew into his Shemar-ness. I am curious to see if Sean does the same.

9 minutes ago, DemetriKane said:

Right! I don't see any long-term story with Anita's singing career.

Completely disagree.

@Vee  Every time I see your new Anita-febreze avatar, I smile

I had assumed that Doug was just a gateway to Vanessa, who is the one with the connections due to her real estate business.  It's one of the main engines within the community so it makes sense that she's the main target to getting his foot within the gates of the community.. and then going from there.

I feel that as well.

 

And then to fall in love with the target? Classic soap.

28 minutes ago, Vee said:

Completely disagree.

Ah okay, what do you see them doing with it?

1 minute ago, Taoboi said:

I feel that as well.

 

And then to fall in love with the target? Classic soap.

And also Jacob is trying to nail Joey on something.. but his dad and his partner have some sort of deal with Joey that is putting a crimp in Jacob trying to nab Joey.

Nicole, Ted,  and Naomi have both remarked about Joey and his reputation so I think the show is slowly showing us that the Duprees are aware of Joey and his reputation.  

I think part of the reason Nicole is concerned is because she knows if Vanessa falls for Joey's charms and invites him into the community.. it will be someone that the Duprees might not be able to get rid of him since he also has money and power in his own right.

In fact, maybe the 2nd family should be built around him.  He just mentioned an ex wife.. but he could have been lying about the backstory just like he did about his mother.  Perhaps he does have a family that isn't aware of his connections and/or accepts those connections.

6 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

I feel that as well.

 

And then to fall in love with the target? Classic soap.

So old school Marian Coby to me. And she probably end up being the one to kill him/get him locked up.

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6 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

And also Jacob is trying to nail Joey on something.. but his dad and his partner have some sort of deal with Joey that is putting a crimp in Jacob trying to nab Joey.

Nicole, Ted,  and Naomi have both remarked about Joey and his reputation so I think the show is slowly showing us that the Duprees are aware of Joey and his reputation.  

I think part of the reason Nicole is concerned is because she knows if Vanessa falls for Joey's charms and invites him into the community.. it will be someone that the Duprees might not be able to get rid of him since he also has money and power in his own right.

In fact, maybe the 2nd family should be built around him.  He just mentioned an ex wife.. but he could have been lying about the backstory just like he did about his mother.  Perhaps he does have a family that isn't aware of his connections and/or accepts those connections.

Well I know the running theory is that what if the ex-wife is Jan, Ashley's mother. lol. But I would rather the 2nd family be Jacob's since we already have backstory (and potential chemistry) already established. 

 

I also think the show has done a good job of establishing Joey's reputation outside of the gambling storyline for the mentions you just mention as well. Jacob's side plot with his partner and his father. Other characters not even in that storyline like Ted (and the mom reveal was so well-done). So again...the cliffhanger works for me.

 

I mean...I'm not even sure if there IS an ex-wife given Joey has already lied about his mother. Look forward to finding out.

 

14 minutes ago, DemetriKane said:

So old school Marian Coby to me. And she probably end up being the one to kill him/get him locked up.

Ha

6 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

One day there is no Dani, Anita or Vernon!

Another day Dani is just a puddle that Andre chooses to deal with but no Anita or Vernon. 

Now, I don't intend to spoil, so that's all I'll say. Except for WELCOME BACK!!!! 

Thank you! Can't wait to get my hands on these episodes. I hope Ashley and Derek are at a minimum. 🪺

Jan could be Vanessa's  sister -Vanessa married well and moved up, Jan was a single mom that struggled.

Or Derek could be Vanessa's brother. Smitty related to Vanessa or Pamela etc

Just tying some of those isolated characters together.

Hayley needs more to do. She seems to have accepted Bill's request not to return to work. Let's see her isolated at home. What is she doing with herself?  Who could she befriend?

I still like the idea of Anita checking up on her and them forming a tentative friendship. Bill would be annoyed when he hears about Anita visiting, crosses paths with Anita and she sees she's looking out for that young woman. Bill v Anita would be a good watch. Bill might even decide to use it to his advantage.

24 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Jan could be Vanessa's  sister -Vanessa married well and moved up, Jan was a single mom that struggled.

Or Derek could be Vanessa's brother. Smitty related to Vanessa or Pamela etc

Just tying some of those isolated characters together.

Maybe it's just me but I don't think the problem with Derek is his being isolated. At the same time I'm not letting him bother me. I'm not letting anyone bother me. 

24 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Hayley needs more to do. She seems to have accepted Bill's request not to return to work. Let's see her isolated at home. What is she doing with herself?  Who could she befriend?

Oh, darn, I thought she said she was definitely going back to work! I think staying home, alone, with no hobby or avocation is going to be a mistake. She may need a friend but more she needs something that is her own niche or thing to claim. 

24 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

I still like the idea of Anita checking up on her and them forming a tentative friendship. Bill would be annoyed when he hears about Anita visiting, crosses paths with Anita and she sees she's looking out for that young woman. Bill v Anita would be a good watch. Bill might even decide to use it to his advantage.

Bill's going to use being thoroughly trounced by our tiger matriarch to his advantage?!! Best case scenario trouncing happens in private!! Bill's ego & self-confidence, sure it's strong but I don't think being  humiliated in public would add. 

Of course that's just my match prediction. 

 

I was under the impression that Hayley was still working at the law firm.  Since she was bringing pick up meals to go back to the office, and there was one scene where she was shown working in his office at a separate area from him.

I do like the idea of Derek/Hayley becoming semi friends and interacting on occasion with Ashley being bothered/insecure because she's afraid that Hayley is after her man LOL

47 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Jan could be Vanessa's  sister -Vanessa married well and moved up, Jan was a single mom that struggled.

 

I think it was established that Vanessa came from money during one of her talks with Joey while Jan works at Vanessa's house (I assume as a servant).

Edited April 20Apr 20 by Soaplovers

1 hour ago, Maxim said:

Thank you! Can't wait to get my hands on these episodes. I hope Ashley and Derek are at a minimum. 🪺

About Derek & Ashley, no comment. I am experimenting with a new outlook. I just am not letting anyone bother me. So far working like charm!

Happy Easter & you better have had a great time. You & your husband & Elmo in the forest primeval for a week! You are living your best life! Have you caught up yet on BTG?