3 minutes ago, Vee said:

Lulu is really not the science type. Remaining an adventurous journalist was fine with me.

Well yeah I don't want Lulu to be a mousey lab technician or math nerd.   I think she could do something brainy *and* adventurous with science.  (Just giving random ideas).
 

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22 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Joss as a WSB agent is one of the stupider ideas the show has ever had.  I am sure Jax and Carly's spoiled daughter will be great at saving the world.😂

Agreed, although I will say those Joss/Brennan scenes today might have worked for me if Charles Mesure was still in the role. He had a little twinkle in his eye that suggested he had a genuine soft spot for Joss and Carly. Chris McKenna, on the other hand, seems fundamentally shifty-eyed and untrustworthy, and I'm just counting down the weeks until he and his French assistant lady close down the Port Charles WSB branch and close the book on this whole silly storyline. 

5 minutes ago, prefab1 said:

Agreed, although I will say those Joss/Brennan scenes today might have worked for me if Charles Mesure was still in the role. He had a little twinkle in his eye that suggested he had a genuine soft spot for Joss and Carly. Chris McKenna, on the other hand, seems fundamentally shifty-eyed and untrustworthy, and I'm just counting down the weeks until he and his French assistant lady close down the Port Charles WSB branch and close the book on this whole silly storyline. 

But, we haven't had Jackly angst yet! Although not having Charles Mesure might be the angstiest of all. 

18 minutes ago, prefab1 said:

Agreed, although I will say those Joss/Brennan scenes today might have worked for me if Charles Mesure was still in the role. He had a little twinkle in his eye that suggested he had a genuine soft spot for Joss and Carly. Chris McKenna, on the other hand, seems fundamentally shifty-eyed and untrustworthy, and I'm just counting down the weeks until he and his French assistant lady close down the Port Charles WSB branch and close the book on this whole silly storyline. 

If GH is going there with Joss as WSB, I doubt if Chris McKenna is leaving anytime soon. Regardless, I think he's been a good recast. He's not Charles Mesure, but I like him in the role.

My problem is that any WSB agent could look at Joss and think "THERE'S our next agent!" Nothing in Joss' background or past screams WSB.

Brennan has always been bad news and a stopgap dayplayer character to fill a void in LW's airtime. It's a matter of time before he goes no matter who plays him.

Joss is too spoiled and too selfish to have a job that requires her to care about anyone other than herself.

This is a worse idea than her being a doctor 😂😂

9 hours ago, Dion said:

Though to be fair, in this situation the "annoying bald friend" is basically a warlord who tried to kill the police commissioner, the deputy mayor's new love interest, and the mayor's son. It's a case of better the devil you know.

I guess lol but all these public servants and LEOs being so content with Sonny will never not be ridiculous.

10 hours ago, Vee said:

I think it's undeniable GH is going to be tough competition. They are timeslot competitors and it has a very loyal audience which is trained to watch almost anything. But I think GH is so somnambulant at this point that BTG may indeed be a contender.

I think BtG will be better quality than GH, and I think GH has a very set audience, not likely to trample over BtG - many of that show's potential viewers would never go near GH these days. I just feel like the genre is in such a weak state that any of them will be lucky to survive, let alone be in competition. That's more a soap world of 40 years ago. And given how many at BtG helped make GH what it is today, I think people who are expecting a big change may be in for a surprise.

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

Joss as a WSB agent is one of the stupider ideas the show has ever had.  I am sure Jax and Carly's spoiled daughter will be great at saving the world.😂

Given how cold and selfish she tends to be, I'd think she'd be more suited for DVX.

Taj Bellow was out of the credits today.

1 minute ago, DRW50 said:

I think BtG will be better quality than GH, and I think GH has a very set audience, not likely to trample over BtG - many of that show's potential viewers would never go near GH these days. I just feel like the genre is in such a weak state that any of them will be lucky to survive, let alone be in competition. That's more a soap world of 40 years ago. And given how many at BtG helped make GH what it is today, I think people who are expecting a big change may be in for a surprise.

I'm not sure here where the surprise would be. GH or BTG?

Do we agree that GH did the Jennifer Hudson talk show because of all this activity?

Right now I think GH does better on Hulu than the Bell soaps do on Paramount Plus, but I'm not sure that predicts a single thing about BTG. 

4 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Right now I think GH does better on Hulu than the Bell soaps do on Paramount Plus, but I'm not sure that predicts a single thing about BTG. 

GH is regularly in the Hulu top 10 and DAYS is regularly in Peacock's top 10, but I never see Y&R or BOLD in the Paramount+ top 10 list.

That's really strange, TBH. Is there any chance Paramount+ doesn't include daytime shows?

8 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

GH is regularly in the Hulu top 10 and DAYS is regularly in Peacock's top 10, but I never see Y&R or BOLD in the Paramount+ top 10 list.

That's really strange, TBH. Is there any chance Paramount+ doesn't include daytime shows?

Not sure. I suppose anything is theoretically possible, but why?

I was thinking about your wanting GH or Frank to see commentary about Amanda Setton/BLQ problems. Might happen but also might not. Supposedly Frank said that GH fans on social media are hammers looking for a nail. Which is a fair assessment of the most toxic on Twi/X. 

Their regular routine coverage is more like a stroke tally than anything else. I don't know if they're machine done or intern or the social media guy but they're just after total fan engagement. 

Frank's posts are not from Frank. That's either his asst. or the social media guy. 

54 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

GH is regularly in the Hulu top 10 and DAYS is regularly in Peacock's top 10, but I never see Y&R or BOLD in the Paramount+ top 10 list.

That's really strange, TBH. Is there any chance Paramount+ doesn't include daytime shows?

There is also subscriber base to consider. It took some digging to find US numbers, but according to what I saw on two media tracking sites Hulu and Paramount+ have significantly more monthly subs than Peacock. That could be a benefit to BtG. Hulu lets us know GH has a loyal following on their platform, and I also don’t remember seeing Y&R in the P+ rankings, so time will tell there.

GH is going to be competition, but folks here are discounting the loyalty of the CBS daytime viewers when it comes to Nielsen houselholds. They dominate from The Price is Right on through.

7 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

GH is going to be competition, but folks here are discounting the loyalty of the CBS daytime viewers when it comes to Nielsen houselholds. They dominate from The Price is Right on through.

I don't think GH in of itself is going to be a lot of competition as they likely have different audiences - GH caters to an older, conservative base who are likely disgusted by the idea of BtG - people like that fan who went on a racist rant against GH and Y&R last year. I think that show's biggest issues may just be the issues that have hurt daytime soaps so much, much-discussed - a social media world, many who don't have time now for soaps, or see them as old hat, etc. I wish they had tried a half-hour soap. But CBS asked for what they asked for and I hope they will stand by the show.

1 hour ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I'm not sure here where the surprise would be. GH or BTG?

I mean I am not sure those who want BtG to be a break from GH will get that full break given that so many who ran GH (into the ground) are working at BtG.

7 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I don't think GH in of itself is going to be a lot of competition as they likely have different audiences

I don't think so. GH still has a lot of non-elderly viewers who watched for Sprina and other things no longer visible there. They stay out of brand loyalty or love for a handful of actors (many of us included). The question is how many will move or watch both.

As for the writing team, I trust MVJ and her crew. Guza has a certain set of skills that make him valuable IMO, but it is Val Jean's show first and foremost. Any people who would immediately worry me are at the breakdown level and have no real creative power. Nor are they dialoguing.

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1 minute ago, Vee said:

I don't think so. GH still has a lot of non-elderly viewers who watched for Sprina and other things no longer visible there. They stay out of brand loyalty or love for a handful of actors (many of us included). The question is how many will move or watch both.

As for the writing team, I trust MVJ and her crew. Guza has a certain set of skills that make him valuable IMO, but it is Val Jean's show first and foremost. Any people who would immediately worry me are at the breakdown level and have no real creative power. Nor are they dialoguing.

I have a lot of respect for MVJ. I just don't have any trust in the other people involved. I hope it works out.

You're right that the Sprina fans may watch. I was thinking more about the current GH viewers as I assume most of them quit last year, given Trina's treatment. The scene alone of her groveling to Joss and calling herself a bitch would have driven me away if I had mostly been invested in the character or her relationships.