These Christmas episodes have been pretty good. A lot of nice family scenes and the utilization of the large cast to make the holiday feel real has been on point.

I love the way they’re playing Lucky clearly falling head over heels for Liz again and the scenes with him, Lulu, Laura, Dante and Rocco were nice. Tracy gave Lulu that speech on not forgetting Rocco and she still ended up leaving after Charlotte gave up her location, poor kid I felt bad for him at the end.

Brook Lynn leering at Tracy and Lulu bonding and telling Chase how jealous she is of her was funny and yeah they continue to drop the Gio is her kids hints heavily. I could have done without the impromptu singing, violin and guitar playing but whatever its Christmas

Gio and Emma interaction was too short for me to judge chemistry or her new actress but I’m excited to have the character back and already kind of shady with the pick pocketing plot. The Scorpio/Jones family is so deep on canvas now which is cool and I continue to be a happy Spixie fan.

Ric and Alexis decorating for Molly was a bit corny but I still enjoyed it. NLG and RH haven’t missed a beat chemistry wise.

I continue to like Jordan and Isaiah but I hope they get the ball rolling on an actual plot for them next year once this slow build is done. It was nice he sent TJ to be with her instead of at work

Jason and Ned talking about Edward was nice to see, I really love having him back at the Q mansion. His scenes looking at the stars with Danny were sweet too and I love how bothered he and Sonny are by Brennan and Carly. 😂 Joss seems to be smelling a rat too though I wonder where they’re going with the mention of him knowing about her and Dex

22 minutes ago, detroitpiston said:

Jason and Ned talking about Edward was nice to see, I really love having him back at the Q mansion. His scenes looking at the stars with Danny were sweet too and I love how bothered he and Sonny are by Brennan and Carly. 😂 Joss seems to be smelling a rat too though I wonder where they’re going with the mention of him knowing about her and Dex

I think he's in touch with Dex, who is undercover hunting for Sam's killer.

30 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

Yeah, not exactly a good look for Lulu. Do the writers even realize how this makes her look? How awful this treatment of Rocco is?

 

I'm guessing not. Basically they're not seeming to have a clue. But you're right that it looks really bad. I'm not at all sure what they are thinking. 

Jealous Jason & Sourface Sonny! It's so funny. They cannot stand Carly trusting Jack Brennan. And, Carly to Jason, I love you but you're not the boss of me! 🤣🤣🤣😇😉

1 hour ago, ranger1rg said:

Yeah, not exactly a good look for Lulu. Do the writers even realize how this makes her look? How awful this treatment of Rocco is?

It definitely sucks, but it feels on-brand for a Spencer.

Man could the Spencer’s be any worse at just treating their kids like [!@#$%^&*]. It’s literally second nature for them.

I was shocked the girl in the park was Emma. I didn’t see much of a spark there between the actors in the way I’ve seen with Trina and Gio. But we’ll see.

I know they won’t and they never should go there again, but Ric and Alexis had their old chemistry back like not a day had passed. Rick Hearst continues to just prove every day why it was smart to give this man a job again.

Ned and Tracy being this excited about Jason being back in the Q house is cute. With them being the only remaining elder Q’s appearing on camera though it just illustrates how many years too late this is to truly have an impact, while I do enjoy it. I do wonder because I’ve forgotten if Edward was alive or not at the time, if he would’ve been more receptive to Drew than Tracy and Ned are. In the BM Days, Monica loved having an Alan son actually actually acknowledge the family. Whereas it seems Tracy and Ned just always wanted it to be Jason.

 

The girl playing Emma seems solid, if slightly old for the part. I guess she'd work as a contemporary of Nicholas Chavez and probably William Lipton. It is hilarious the lengths they will go to to avoid ever pairing Trina with anyone white again, though. Gio gets a few more unexpectedly well-liked scenes with her and boom! New white girl hits the scene!

I like Gio and I have nothing against NuEmma so far (Brooklyn Silzer was adorable but could not handle dramatic acting as an adult, a recast was inevitable) but I don't care about them together. You're not gonna put over a very new guy like Gio and an all-new recast that easily. It just feels like something to cement him (and keep him away from Trina), and I'd rather see both parties tested around with others.

Alexa has really brought the spunk back to Lulu, without the hardness that JMB had to go with it. No, I don't love her quest for her hellspawn but the scenes with her breaking into Wyndemere, etc. really had spark and good chemistry with DZ.

27 minutes ago, Vee said:

The girl playing Emma seems solid, if slightly old for the part. I guess she'd work as a contemporary of Nicholas Chavez and probably William Lipton. It is hilarious the lengths they will go to to avoid ever pairing Trina with anyone white again, though. Gio gets a few more unexpectedly well-liked scenes with her and boom! New white girl hits the scene!

I feel like the reason is not just about Trina and a white man, but Trina as a character. The show is fine with a C-heroine like Jordan, similar to the way previous black B/C heroines like Claudia, Simone or Dara had been treated, but Trina had a very prominent place with some fans in the last year or so, and that rocks the boat. I've seen some fans decrying how Trina or Trina's fans ruined the place that Joss had on the canvas, and the wonderful glory days of her friendship with Spencer (and the whole Cam/Spencer/Joss unit). I wouldn't be surprised if a number of people at the show feel the same way. Emma can fit more into that vision of nostalgia which Trina can't, because Trina, like almost all black characters in GH's history, is permanently othered.

Emma and Gio and Joss can take the spotlight, and maybe another cornbread piece of ass to join them. Trina can either settle for scenes with Kai that keep them both firmly in their place, or leave, never to be mentioned again, which the show would likely prefer as that means they can recast Spencer and not have to deal with any fan complaints about Sprina.

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Just now, DRW50 said:

The show is fine with a C-heroine like Jordan, similar to the way previous black B/C heroines like Claudia, Simone or Dara had been treated, but Trina had a very prominent place with some fans in the last year or so, and that rocks the boat. I've seen some fans decrying how Trina or Trina's fans ruined the place that Joss had on the canvas, and the wonderful glory days of her relationship with Spencer (and the whole Cam/Spencer/Joss unit). I wouldn't be surprised if a number of people at the show feel the same way.

Emma and Gio and Joss can take the spotlight, and maybe another cornbread piece of ass to join them. Trina can either settle for scenes with Kai that keep them both firmly in their place, or leave, never to be mentioned again, which the show would likely prefer as that means they can recast Spencer and not have to deal with any fan complaints about Sprina.

I do think that's likely, unfortunately. And I think that's all true. It's just a sickness at the show. But I don't begrudge the new actors, who I think are fine. There's plenty of useless and tired white characters on the show but I'm not gunning for Emma and Gio. (Joss can stand to stay on the backburner for awhile.) And hey, I'd love to be surprised if Trina gets something truly substantial again.

Just now, Vee said:

I do think that's likely, unfortunately. And I think that's all true. It's just a sickness at the show. But I don't begrudge the new actors, who I think are fine. There's plenty of useless and tired white characters on the show but I'm not gunning for Emma and Gio. (Joss can stand to stay on the backburner for awhile.) And hey, I'd love to be surprised if Trina gets something truly substantial again.

I definitely don't begrudge any of the actors, who are just reading lines as quickly as possible and have no say and no value. It's all on the show, which saw popularity and passion and took it out on the character and actress, then saw racial abuse and again seemingly saw it as justification to just triple down all the more on the show that those same racist fans had been begging for. I guess that's just soaps today...and America at large, I guess.

(I suppose if we complain too much whoever at the show was so eager for Spencer/Esme will step in) 

6 hours ago, Vee said:

Alexa has really brought the spunk back to Lulu, without the hardness that JMB had to go with it. No, I don't love her quest for her hellspawn but the scenes with her breaking into Wyndemere, etc. really had spark and good chemistry with DZ.

I completely agree; I've always believed, since her debut, she's been a nice mix of both Julie Marie Berman and Emme Rylan, which you don't always get in a recast. And yet, she feels fresh in her own portrayal.

6 hours ago, Vee said:

I like Gio and I have nothing against NuEmma so far (Brooklyn Silzer was adorable but could not handle dramatic acting as an adult, a recast was inevitable) but I don't care about them together. You're not gonna put over a very new guy like Gio and an all-new recast that easily. It just feels like something to cement him (and keep him away from Trina), and I'd rather see both parties tested around with others.

I agree; plus, I'm going to need a history re-visit between Emma & Josslyn, and for Emma to let Joss have it for her treatment of both Cameron & Spencer. It's OVERDUE!

6 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I feel like the reason is not just about Trina and a white man, but Trina as a character. The show is fine with a C-heroine like Jordan, similar to the way previous black B/C heroines like Claudia, Simone or Dara had been treated, but Trina had a very prominent place with some fans in the last year or so, and that rocks the boat.

It is stupefying that GH has the most Black actors on contract in their history, and they do use them consistently, but still clearly not letting them center anything or feel significant to the fabric of the show. I would argue that the first two Simone’s felt more centered than any of the Black women do right now, and she was tied to the B story characters and a bland Tom Hardy.

You could argue that nobody on the show feels important right now, but they feel more dismissed than the rest of the disposable cast.

6 hours ago, Vee said:

And hey, I'd love to be surprised if Trina gets something truly substantial again.

Me too.

7 hours ago, Vee said:

It is hilarious the lengths they will go to to avoid ever pairing Trina with anyone white again, though. Gio gets a few more unexpectedly well-liked scenes with her and boom! New white girl hits the scene!

 

I can’t blame the show for moving away from a potential Trina and Gio pairing. Her “fans” (air quotes bc I think they only support with terms and conditions that include NAC’s Spencer) continuously rejected every scene Gio and Trina had together saying he looked like a little boy next to her. Their tone only started to shift once Kai showed up. 🙃 

12 minutes ago, detroitpiston said:

I can’t blame the show for moving away from a potential Trina and Gio pairing. Her “fans” (air quotes bc I think they only support with terms and conditions that include NAC’s Spencer) continuously rejected every scene Gio and Trina had together saying he looked like a little boy next to her. Their tone only started to shift once Kai showed up. 🙃 

It's the same thing they did with Rory, which was a superior partner for her over Spencer. 🙃

Eh, Rory was a block of wood. I never had anything against Gio, but there are some overzealous fans out there for any pairing.

Chemistry not forced is a funny thing.

1 hour ago, titan1978 said:

Me too.

And make me three. Even SOD was talking about this on their page for their now-online BEST OF.