@AbcNbc247  Do you think we haven't met Sophia's parents on purpose?  Like, maybe, she's related to a villain?  They've only mentioned her mother.  But, (while I may be doing my classic overthinking), who's the Daddy?

1 hour ago, AbcNbc247 said:

So, Kevin is forced as much as Leo is? 😂

It hasn’t worked since about 2019 lol 

I liked Leo when he first came on. I thought it was refreshing and something different to have a gay villain. But now, after everything that’s been written for him, I’m just done.

I’m curious though, how do you think Greg is at fault too? 

When GR was on contract, you would never know what a monster Kevin was at one point.  much like Leo all characters just got over it. Unlike Leo, Kevin actually would be sanctimonious at times which was eye roll inducing. And there was a period where he and his family ate the show. 

As someone mentioned earlier, I didn’t mind a gay villain. But Leo still being around, having more friends than a lot of characters, on his third love interest, and a successful job while never atoning for any of his behavior? That’s bull. And even when we’re supposed to feel for Leo, GR doesn’t make me feel a thing. 

2 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

 

Yes there is something about GR's onscreen persona that is grating to me.

Same with Michelle Stafford. Nina on GH was just as annoying to me as Phyllis.

Nina was essentially Phyllis in a new town.

55 minutes ago, j swift said:

On the one hand, Leo is written as such an immature goofball that it feels as if the actor is just playing what is in the script.

On the other hand, I thought his performance during weightier scenes, like those over the summer with his mother in prison, and pouring his heart out to Marlena about not feeling loved, were not as moving as I would have liked.  I actually thought Judith Chapman's performance felt more evenly toned next to GR's in their scene.  And that is saying a lot, given Ms. Chapman's fondness for hysteria.

Even this week, when Leo thought that Javi had stolen his scripts, it all felt inorganic.  We were told that this was Leo's dream job.  He had written three months worth of scripts, and we knew that he was committed to doing a good job.  But his screech at his laptop when he saw that the scripts had been leaked seemed to be played for laughs rather than pathos. 

So, I guess, I am left feeling that there is room for blame all around.  I don't expect every gay to be an accurate representation of the entire culture.  Nor do I think that they have to be likeable or worthy of empathy.  But, Leo remains a one-note-clown, despite multiple efforts to make us feels that he is a victim of his past, lonely, and desperate.

I also really don't understand why Bonnie would give him the time of day, given their history.  Everyone seems to forgive Leo, despite the fact that he is not very kind, nor charming.  Like, I can see why people would still tolerate EJ, but Leo is just a loser, a con artist, and keeps aiding multiple criminals.

I think you've pretty much explained how I feel about Leo. Could another actor do any better with that writing? I don't know, but I do know that I don't like what GR does with it.

I don't sense any depth in anything he does, in any relationship. It's all surface, and I never get the feeling that Leo really cares about anyone or anything. Someone this shallow all the time doesn't work as a major character on a soap.

9 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

I think you've pretty much explained how I feel about Leo. Could another actor do any better with that writing? I don't know, but I do know that I don't like what GR does with it.

I don't sense any depth in anything he does, in any relationship. It's all surface, and I never get the feeling that Leo really cares about anyone or anything. Someone this shallow all the time doesn't work as a major character on a soap.

Literally the way he says every single line should be followed by a laugh track.

5 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Literally the way he says every single line should be followed by a laugh track.

Yep. The character has no soul. It's like bad acting on an old Nick-at-Nite comedy series.

11 hours ago, te. said:

Hell, if they wanted to write him like a conniving grifter like they sometimes seems to allude to, he'd be a lot more smart than he usually comes across (except for the days when he gets to have The Salem Brain).  But all his schemes are Sami-at-15 at best.

That's almost an insult to Sami.

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9 hours ago, j swift said:

@AbcNbc247  Do you think we haven't met Sophia's parents on purpose?  Like, maybe, she's related to a villain? 

I haven’t thought that but it would be nice to see them be cast. It would give us a better understanding as to why Sophia is the way that she is. 

Maybe this handsome man could be cast as her father 😂😂😂

9 hours ago, Antoyne said:

When GR was on contract, you would never know what a monster Kevin was at one point.  much like Leo all characters just got over it. Unlike Leo, Kevin actually would be sanctimonious at times which was eye roll inducing. And there was a period where he and his family ate the show. 

If Greg is 0-2 when it comes to soap roles, then Days should just cut him lol Ron’s gone. We don’t need Leo anymore 😂

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The show has dropped to #10. I haven't watched since Monday. It hasn't been a good week for days.

I guess we were supposed to have sympathy for Kristen today, but I don’t. And her raging at Brady after everything she’s done made me laugh.

She acts like she owns him. It was good for a while but now it’s just overplayed and tired. Like I said before, the orchid thing should have been the final nail in the coffin for Bristen. Hopefully, this’ll be the thing that finally wakes Kristen up and gets her over Brady for good. The character definitely needs a reset. Or she can finally just be sent packing.

Hell, why does she even want a year 50 old recovering addict that’s in love with love and still lives with his parents? 😂😂😂

Philip and Stephanie’s reunion was nice, though I didn’t really see much chemistry between the two of them. But it was only their first scene, maybe that’ll change over time. Btw, wtf was that stupid ass sound that Philip made after Stephanie agreed to be his PR person? They really need to stop writing Philip like a big, campy joke because it’s not working. 

Johnny and Alex looked hot but Johnny’s lie to Chanel about his dream was stupid lol he should have just said he didn’t remember. But I’m finally liking the whole Chanel/Johnny/Joy/Alex situation. And now that Joy confessed everything to Alex, another dynamic is added to this storyline and I like that, even though I feel like Alex playing it like a dope today was the wrong choice too. Just like with Philip, playing, writing or directing some things like campy jokes ruins them. 

I still think it’s a big mistake for Alex to have been completely removed from the Kiriakis family storylines. He should be a part of the war between Philip and Xander over Titan, undermining one or both of them. And now that Philip and Stephanie are in each other orbits again, Xander and Brady have made peace and Sarah can walk again, all of these storylines could come together in one big mess that has huge effects across the canvas and for all these characters. 

55 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

The show has dropped to #10. I haven't watched since Monday. It hasn't been a good week for days.

It’s trending at #9 today.

Maybe Monday and Tuesday are responsible for the drop 😂😂

The only thing interesting is the Johnny hot comment. It means only one thing.😂

I actually think I'm skipping this episode too.

Next week looks so much better.

@AbcNbc247

2 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I guess we were supposed to have sympathy for Kristen today, but I don’t. And her raging at Brady after everything she’s done made me laugh.

Hell, why does she even want a year 50 old recovering addict that’s in love with love and still lives with his parents? 😂😂😂

 

This right here would be the red alert, early warning sign, DANGER WILL ROBINSON thing for most people. Grown-ass man but still lives at home with his parents. What is that even about? I know it's not having enough sets & also that little thing, called the budget. Poor Brady. Ends up as if he's a man-child not a man.

I don't know why the show doesn't give Tate/Brady Li's old apartment or something.  I assume the show still has that set.   I know John/Marlena love their kids and grandkids, but I personally would be annoyed if my 50 year son and teenage grandson were living with me indefinitely.  It's not like Brady doesn't have the money to move.  He's just being lazy lol.

6 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I don't know why the show doesn't give Tate/Brady Li's old apartment or something.  I assume the show still has that set.   I know John/Marlena love their kids and grandkids, but I personally would be annoyed if my 50 year son and teenage grandson were living with me indefinitely.  It's not like Brady doesn't have the money to move.  He's just being lazy lol.

That apartment set should be retired, lmao. If anything, put Brady back in the apartment he shared with Theresa for 2.5 seconds, which was essentially John & Marlena's apartment but re-dressed and a bit smaller. The set problems on this soap are DIRE! Beyond DIRE!

1 hour ago, Liberty City said:

That apartment set should be retired, lmao. If anything, put Brady back in the apartment he shared with Theresa for 2.5 seconds, which was essentially John & Marlena's apartment but re-dressed and a bit smaller. The set problems on this soap are DIRE! Beyond DIRE!

Honestly, I don't even care if Brady/Tate have a set.  Just say they live somewhere else.  The two of them can still just chit chat in John/Marlena's living room for all I care.

2 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Honestly, I don't even care if Brady/Tate have a set.  Just say they live somewhere else.  The two of them can still just chit chat in John/Marlena's living room for all I care.

Haha. Or put them in the Salem Inn. Everyone lives there. 🤣