18 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Are we surprised the show messed this up?  Lol.  It's clunky dialogue by an amateur guest star though.

I personally thought Kristina did identify as a lesbian, but I wasn't 100% positive either.  I think GH made it very murky.  It was very clear on Days Chanel/Allie were openly bi-sexual.  Did Blaze even clarify if she was a lesbian or bi?

I think dumping Blaze and keeping Natalia was an awful mistake.  I am not sure Mansi is guilty of anything here besides responding in a bitchy way to people negatively tagging her on the internet.

Me, I'm not blaming Kate. Although I will say it makes her look stupid. But, just as we have no business being surprised at the show screwing up, it's not as if we've never seen an actor say something where they seemed less than sharp. 

33 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I blame GH, a bad script, and bad leadership.  I don't blame Mansi about anything yet.

I agree. I think it's really pathetic to attack Mansi for any of this.

With everything that's wrong with the gay storyline on GH, Kate Mansi is the one who gets criticized? Are you kidding me?

9 hours ago, carolineg said:

I'll be honest, I still don't understand the story of Nina's baby(ies).  I don't get how Willow and Nelle are her children.  It's extremely confusing so I would hope that there was a better (or at least more clear) version of that story.  I also often forget Nina/Ava's weird ass backstory over Silas of all people. 

I’ve never even known how Nina managed to have twins, I believe when Stafford was on she never had kids right?

27 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

I’ve never even known how Nina managed to have twins, I believe when Stafford was on she never had kids right?

Someone like @Vee could probably help you out more with this.  I think this all came up when Nina was with Valentin.

5 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Someone like @Vee could probably help you out more with this.  I think this all came up when Nina was with Valentin.

Don't look at me. I stopped watching regularly in 2015 until earlier this year (and have since stopped). All I know is that Nina gave birth in her coma(?), I think, to what she thought was one child but turned out to be twins.

I believe they knew in Stafford's early days she had been pregnant but assumed she'd lost it when she ODed on pills after finding out about Silas' affair with Ava (which I think Donna Mills masterminded), and went into her decades-long coma. That's why I suspected from the beginning that RC had intended Kiki to actually be Nina's - Donna Mills/Madeline was willing to risk Nina's life to keep her from having Silas' child, as she hated Silas. I assumed Madeline had passed the child off to Ava to keep Silas out of her daughter's life.

Regardless, the saga of Nina's long-lost child/children went on for around a decade and I've never cared in the slightest, except for when it resulted in the Nina/Drew/Willow triangle which I've lost interest in with PM gone.

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

It really shows GH's lack of understanding about pretty much everything lol.   I blame GH, a bad script, and bad leadership.  I don't blame Mansi about anything yet.

I am not going to come out here calling Kate Mansi the c-word for people on the Internet being crazy. A lot of Soap Twitter is weird as hell. They act like all these mid couples and characters on GH now are super popular.

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8 minutes ago, Vee said:

Don't look at me. I stopped watching regularly in 2015 until earlier this year (and have since stopped). All I know is that Nina gave birth in her coma(?), I think, to what she thought was one child but turned out to be twins.

I believe they knew in Stafford's early days she had been pregnant but assumed she'd lost it when she ODed on pills after finding out about Silas' affair with Ava (which I think Donna Mills masterminded), and went into her decades-long coma. That's why I suspected from the beginning that RC had intended Kiki to actually be Nina's - Donna Mills/Madeline was willing to risk Nina's life to keep her from having Silas' child, as she hated Silas. I assumed Madeline had passed the child off to Ava to keep Silas out of her daughter's life.

Regardless, the saga of Nina's long-lost child/children went on for around a decade and I've never cared in the slightest, except for when it resulted in the Nina/Drew/Willow triangle which I've lost interest in with PM gone.

Ha!  You gave a much better explanation than I could have.  Mine would have been 🤷‍♀️ and I have no idea how one kid ended up with Carly's adoptive family and got a kidney bought by Jax and the other ended up in a cult.

Kiki being Nina's would have made a hell of a lot more sense.

I can't remember a single thing about Silas except Michael Easton.  He's related to Vampire Clay, but is he related to Finn?  

2 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Ha!  You gave a much better explanation than I could have.  Mine would have been 🤷‍♀️ and I have no idea how one kid ended up with Carly's adoptive family and got a kidney bought by Jax and the other ended up in a cult.

I don't know either nor care.

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I can't remember a single thing about Silas except Michael Easton.  He's related to Vampire Clay, but is he related to Finn?

Not to my knowledge. And yes, AFAIK Kristina has been bi for years. Anyone complaining about Mansi reminding them of that because they weren't watching before mid couple #300 can dip.

3 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Kiki being Nina's would have made a hell of a lot more sense.

I think it was also planned to cement both Stafford and Ron and Frank's beloved Kristen Alderson (before Kristen asked for a modest pay bump that is, lol). Remember, at that time Stafford was ascendant on the show as a new lead and they were pairing her with Roger and pushing the Franco/Kiki-Todd/Starr repetition hard. They kept on doing it with the three of them as a kind of loose family unit after Passanante took over while Hayley Erin was in the role for awhile. But I just never cared about any of them.

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12 minutes ago, Vee said:

I don't know either nor care.

Not to my knowledge. And yes, AFAIK Kristina has been bi for years. Anyone complaining about Mansi reminding them of that because they weren't watching before mid couple #300 can dip.

I think it was also planned to cement both Stafford and Ron and Frank's beloved Kristen Alderson (before Kristen asked for a modest pay bump that is, lol). Remember, at that time Stafford was ascendant on the show as a new lead and they were pairing her with Roger and pushing the Franco/Kiki-Todd/Starr repetition hard. They kept on doing it with the three of them as a kind of loose family unit after Passanante took over while Hayley Erin was in the role for awhile. But I just never cared about any of them.

You know I can remember something that happened in 1995 on GH clearly.  I watched the show fairly regularly during this period and it's like I remember none of it.  That's speaks to the quality of that era lol.  The Kiki, Nina, Howarth, and Easton's all blend in to me.

1 minute ago, carolineg said:

You know I can remember something that happened in 1995 on GH clearly.  I watched the show fairly regularly during this period and it's like I remember none of it.  That's speaks to the quality of that era lol.  The Kiki, Nina, Howarth, and Easton's all blend in to me.

A lot of it was pure trainwreck value to me, lol.

I’ve been nothing but supportive and SIGNED ON to tell this story from the beginning before it was even put into motion. I support my costar publicly and privately. There’s no there there folks. And once again - I’m flattered you all think I have that much pwr

— Kate Mansi (@KateMansi) August 16, 2024

1 hour ago, Vee said:

Kristen Alderson (before Kristen asked for a modest pay bump that is, lol)

Is that why she left?

4 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Is that why she left?

That's my understanding, allegedly. She wanted a pay bump and FV either froze her out or tried to get her to take a cut, and then it was byebye. I assume his paternal affections had shifted in full to Nicolas Bechtel.

Let me help you- the REASON I signed on for this role was BECAUSE it was an LGBTQIA+ story that was presented to me and I felt it was important to tell.and I speak on that constantly.

— Kate Mansi (@KateMansi) August 16, 2024

I understand why Kate Mansi feels the need to defend herself, but actors just need to stay off social media unless it's curated photos of themselves on Instagram with the comments shut down. 

I do understand why people feel offended how this story was handled but it's not a great idea to trust a soap on this topic. 

I'm also way of the idea of Kristina being "turned straight," although I wouldn't be surprised if the show just puts her with men from now on. 

Lord...I come home to mess. 

 

Oh, dear.