Jump to content

Y&R June 2024 Discussion Thread


Recommended Posts

  • Replies 148
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

  • Members

Like I said, I never want to see it on a soap again! In the last 14 years has been on 4 shows amongst  characters! 3 of those soaps written by one person! I'm sure there's some other stories in the soap world history, but that extreme!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

It is unbelievable, but slightly amusing, that they're still using the old DID soap trope of having each personality dress differently, so the audience can tell who is who.  As if, a mentally ill Ashley's first impulse after a trauma was to go shopping online for a new wardrobe for each of her alters.

Please register in order to view this content

  I guess it is progressive that there are no wigs involved.

Edited by j swift
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Alan and Martin’s fall off that balcony makes Dex & Alexis 1989 fall on Dynasty look like a James Cameron movie.

What a stupid way to end this story. It would have made more sense if Tucker was as darker than we thought and gaslighted Ashley to the point she broke instead of this utter ludicrous last minute twin twist that makes zero sense and hadn’t been addressed until this past week. 

Also Michelle Stafford didn’t deserve that Emmy and should never have been nominated in the first place. But I know the Emmys are a joke and play favorites. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

It really does seem like Josh writes week to week just spitballing to keep the lights on. First Ashley then had DID, then it was her doctor, now it's his twin, now they're maybe dead. How long did this even take?

Edited by Vee
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

This story began back in December/January with Ashley & Tucker having alternating memories of what happened in Paris, so clearly it was planned without an ending from the get go. Ashley referenced childhood trauma (Dina leaving?) but we don’t even know what this trauma refers to as not even a hint was given. 

I didn’t watch OLTL at the time but for  years and years before JG even came to Y&R I’d always see almost universal praise by online soap fans for his early 90s soap work with Michael Malone but obviously in retrospect that was just a one trick pony. 

All that needed to be said, Amen.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

 


Oh I hadn't put that together.

When Christopher Cousins was originally announced in April to debut as Alan Laurent, I looked up his prior roles on other shows.  So that detail about what he did as Cain Rogan and aliases on OLTL made me think "oh this actor has done subterfuge roles in the past, I wonder if he's doing a subterfuge role this time, too?" and then in fact, he did.

But I didn't realize that Josh Griffith had been part of the writing team that had written the Cain Rogan storyline on OLTL.  So thanks for pointing that out.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Seems like Josh Griffith got into this mode for the 50th anniversary of Y&R (from March 2023 - March 2024) that he'd bring back old storylines, but didn't know exactly what to do.  So he got some suggestions ...

Bryton James suggested that Michael Graziadei come back.  Bryton also suggested that Devon's biological mother Yolanda/Harmony do a return visit. 

I forget the details but I remember reading an article about JG literally wondering what else he could do and someone mentioned to him the original Eve Howard, which JG didn't know about... so he wrote Colleen Zenk as Eve's sister.  I think that must have come about around the time of the Y&R fan club weekend in August 2023 when J.Eddie Peck showed up at the "past cast" day.  I think Zenk said she got the call in early August.    It seems like the entire Aunt Jordan thing was thrown together (in my opinion).

Presumbably JG learned hat Susan Walters' husband Linden Ashby had played Cameron Kirsten...  so he said Let's revisit Sharon&Nick with Cameron Kirsten!   Let's do that, oh but wait, Linden's available for only a few days/weeks between his other projects, well then we'll just do a fast scary arc.  (thrown together).

And also rehashing old stuff.  When JG was at DAYS, he wrote the Bicentennial Gala for Salem for the 50th anniversary of Days of our Lives in November 2015 ... (despite there having already been a bicentennial on DAYS quite a few years before LOL.)
So of course in March 2023 JG wrote a Bicentennial Gala for Genoa City for the 50th anniv of Y&R.

So I'll just speculate/wonder if the current Alan/Martin storyline came about if somebody/anyone (? ? ?) told JG about Ashley's old storyline with Rick/Blade?  
Let's revisit another old Y&R storyline!  And with the orginal Rick/Blade actor Michael Tylo having died a few years ago,  then JG looked for another actor.
(And now that I know that JG was at OLTL when Cousins was there, yeah that must be it).  Or JG just thought about old storylines in various places he'd written and tried to find something that connected to a Y&R character, such as Ashley?

Edited by janea4old
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

 

You are on track. Eileen mentioned Ashley's mental health problems to Josh, because of course, he knows nothing about the history of the show (and I believe it was you who guessed that the October 2003 Gina's fire episode replays were really aired to remind the audience of Ashley's mental issues!). From there, I assume he decided to do the alters because it's like the multiple characters on Days, and probably saw something about Blade and Rick while doing his "research" (browsing his phone on the toilet, presumably), and voila, a story is born!

 

I just hope the "childhood trauma" doesn't end up being John molesting her, but I wouldn't put it past JG.

 

 https://www.tvinsider.com/1128792/young-and-the-restless-ashley-abbott-dissociative-identity-disorder-alters/

 The story began to take shape last year after Ashley and Tucker’s (Trevor St. John) marriage imploded in Paris. “Josh (Griffith, executive producer and head writer) and I had been talking, and I happened to mention Ashley’s mental health issues [from the ’80s],” Davidson recalls. “He remembered and got really inspired by that. So, it was an offhand conversation about the character that tied in beautifully with what he’d already been writing.”

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Ah so that explains why the story randomly changed from Tucker to someone else, LOL.

 

I've seen multiple speculations all over the internet -- 

Please register in order to view this content

behind spoiler tag until everyone is caught up watching

Edited by janea4old
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Except there are writers who also do/did that and did a better job of it!

Even if JG were working from a meticulously written two-year bible, I guarantee the stories on this show still would suck, because the s.o.b. just can't write.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

 

Well...I do like them big

Please register in order to view this content

 Silly dumb jocks with a dream.   Though I do agree with Khan that at his age, his family should call him out more.

Now don't hate on me cuz JM looks good for his age. Or it is probably my thing for Aquarius...not helped by their freak number.  

 

Not to much on the frat boy, Lover of frat boys.  

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

6-3

 

Can I take a moment to say how much I am loving the Paris 'remote?' It's been a minute since several characters organically winded up in the same place out of town so it was cute.

 

I have loved the various re-dressed sets. I've loved the different sets. Ashley's hotel room with all that space and the French doors. The elevator that Tucker and Audra were sparring in. Tucker's balcony. Now this little lounge...and the awesome overhead camera angle as Ashley, Traci, and Alan entered the lounge. I've liked it so much that every time the episode went back to Genoa City, I went le sigh. It's good to see that someone in design was clearly having some fun on this show.

 

Now that story...I gasped last week when Alan told Ashley he never talked to her that night. So either he's shady or there's another twist coming. Like I said to @Antoyne...I liked that there had to be something else to make Ashley split other than that Tucker/Ashley fight. And now this week looks like they are diving into what that is. Granted I have an idea now with the next week promo (ugh), but the foreshadowing is already there with Tucker and his weird encounter with Alan on the street. Eileen Davidson continues to give a masterclass and probably the only reason this story has been holding my interest over all the other stories.

 

Sally back in fashion design? YES, PLEASE.

 

Since I know I get picked on for it, yes, I enjoy Nick running around with his himbo self. But can we get him out of that jacket? js. lol. Speaking of fine, TSJ's muscles suuure have been looking good in that buttoned down of his.

 

Speaking of TSJ, I seem Tucker has been hit or miss as it's been Tucker vs Audra. And honestly, can you blame Audra now? It is seeming like breaking up to just get Tucker and Ashley back together at this point.

 

Last week I was loving all the drama with Diane. And we even got a Diane/Victor scene. They haven't really had any since she came back from the dead. And it seems like they are on the same page when it comes to Jack and Nikki. I do wonder where that could go...especially with Victor back in Kyle's ear again.

 

Jill and heart problems...say it ain't so? Though it's nice to know Snapper is there with her. 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Recent Posts

    • Loved Valerie Mahaffey as crazy as a box of frogs Sandy Cooper on Wings. 2025 needs to chill out already. May Ms. Mahaffey rest in peace.
    • She was great on there. And Wings. And so many shows. I don't feel like we get those character actors as much now.
    • Cady did have a southern accent as Dixie in her first few years playing the character... but it started to minimize the longer she played the character (which tracks because my aunt had a heavy southern accent when married my uncle and years living in the north has softened it quite a bit). Her initial stint playing Rosanna was partly due to mirroring the previous actress and eventually developing her own take on the character. And the thing about her take as Kelly on Y & R was that she was too sedate when she first took over playing the role (she was supposed to play a woman that had recently lost her child.. and trying to keep things together) and then went OTT crazy and didn't play it well.    And I don't care to remember her attempt at playing Jennifer on Days. I think this Pamela character is the first time she's playing a character from the start and I think she's like a kid at a candy store.  She's having so much fun trying different things... and I hope eventually she decides to settle on a more consistent character for Pamela (perhaps her love of accents is a character trait based on something traumatic that happened to her in the past maybe).
    • That's sad. I remember her mostly from ER and the shortlived, yet very funny, sitcom The Powers That Be.
    • As always loved seeing Ric with Liz. I hope the show forever keeps them in each others orbit even if it’s just platonic. I’m sure she’s going to cut him out when she finds out he’s blackmailing Alexis though. So darn.
    • I have to be honest I’m really struggling with this show. I love everything with Eva/Leslie/Ted/Nicole/Kat and enjoy Dani and Bill’s shenanigans (I’m on the Hayley needs to be recast train now tho), Chelsea is second to Kat as my favorite Dupree grandkid and I loved her coming out to her mom. The show was on a truly great run with the big Leslie and Eva reveal at Nicole and Ted’s anniversary party and the fall out has still been good even with the unnecessary Ted recast and them making Leslie kind of dumb by exposing herself too much unnecessarily. The real problem for me started when they rotated back to way too damn much screen time for Derek/Ashley/Andre (if anyone should have been up first for a recast it was these three IMO). They tried way too hard to drum up drama between Ashley and Derek and the actors were clearly fighting for their mediocre charisma less acting lives to make it work but none of it landed, just horrible. Naomi and Jacob and this weird homeless woman story are also BORING. I can see where its potentially going but IDGAF at all, my only hope for them is that they’re building a triangle with Naomi/Jacob/Kat because Jacob and Kat have stronger chemistry together than their current love interests (Eva is the only one who can make the awful Tomas work). Martin, his secret and still cringe worthy acting got kind of interesting with Bill dropping hints to Smitty but they completely lost me with that lil fakeout scene at the country club. The lame “teenagers” (air quotes because Samantha is no Bianca Lawson and never beating the black Andrea Zuckerman allegations) can get off my screen as well. Joey creeping on Vanessa is grossing me out at this point, I actually quite like Vanessa and Doug now but Joey falls totally flat as a villain and someone we’re supposed to buy Vanessa being enamored with. I’m glad they’ve finally set up something interesting for Vernon and Anita to do with this girl band reunion instead of Anita wringing her hands and telling us she feels darkness coming and Vernon giving a civil rights speech every episode but yeah… People who’ve posted with me for other shows know I’m not one for fast forwarding or hate watching either, if I find a majority of a show is not working I usually just quit but because of what this show represents for me as a Black male soap fan I really want to stick it out. Its just become a challenge lately. I saw Guza has left the building and I REALLY hope we hear about some more BTS changes. The additions of Tracy Thompson and Jamie Giddens don’t exactly inspire a lot of confidence from me tho. Honestly praying hard for a new EP to replace JHC, a lot of the stuff that annoyed about her PC and AMC runs has started to match up here. I’m giving the show through the Summer to rectify some things but IDK how long I can hold on tbh. Its been a struggle to even finish some of these episodes lately.
    • I agree. I liked the episode but it felt jarring to suddenly return to a bunch of plots that had been put on pause since the Nurses' Ball started. Although I did like Laura popping in at the end to tell Alexis that millions of dollars have suddenly disappeared from Ace's trust fund. One set of scenes that made me feel optimistic for the next few months were between Sofia Mattsson and Rory Gibson. While Rory has been good as a darker, colder Michael this week, I was worried that he might not have much range. But he really warmed up with Mattsson, and I thought that (for the first time) Michael and Sasha had some genuine chemistry.
    • Next week is going to be such a sad time... I just feel it based on what was shown today. I'm wondering if the whole John being bandaged thing being a throwback to how he first arrived on the show was a Ron C idea since it just seems as though this would be something he would come up with.  If so, it's good that Cwikly/Ford are in charge with the implementing of the idea instead of him. Just a delayed thought from the Ciara scenes earlier in the week, or last week.. and how she had an odd way of dressing/acting.  I chuckle because little Ciara did say that she admired and wanted to be just like Kristen when she grew up.  So the fact that her outfit choices are so odd/off beat and her manner is a bit OTT just fits.. especially since Eileen's Kristen had an odd sense of fashion and that frantic OTT undertone to her delivery. With that said, a part of me wonders how Eileen's Kristen would have handled the scenes being done this week in regards to John's situation.   
    • My god the smirking was back in full force today. He almost started smiling after Johnny mentioned he wouldn’t be there if EJ hadn’t raped Sami. I will say I did like seeing him with Dee as they’ve always had great chemistry.    They really are giving a lot of false hope with John getting better. I wish they hadn’t done that. Monday is going to be devastating. I really liked all the characters mixing and mingling today.  Nu-Rachel is still too sweet for me. Loved all the flashbacks. Everyone looked so young. Really enjoyed Brady’s scenes with John today.  
    • Valerie Mahaffey Dead: ‘Northern Exposure,’ ‘Dead to Me’ Actress Was 71 Loved her. I've never seen her Doctors work. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy