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God I hope we hear an interview from PM soon. 

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Sorry Errol. I'm gonna put that person on ignore. Always trolling in threads anyways 

Anywho nothing is going to change as long as Varni and Frank are in charge

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14 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

The show is locked into the same lose-lose position as Goutman at ATWT and Wheeler at GL - Frank is not going to improve the show, he is incapable, but he is also likely the only reason the show is still on.

It's on life support until ABC pulls the plug. It might come soon if The Gates blasts GH out of the water come January.

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Frankly, Frank is the common denominator for why this show has sucked through several writing regimes at this point. I’m not sure why ABC and Varni don’t see that and continue to safeguard his job.

Van Etten back is not going to change a lick, and Korte has been on staff for like 30 years - she’s a company woman that will write whatever she’s being told to write. 

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21 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Mulcahey was being undermined from the start as Frank didn't want him, like what Paul Rauch may have done to Claire Labine at GL

Or how Mal Young sabotaged Sally Sussman for a power grab at Y&R. (Granted, SS is nowhere near the talent that PM or Labine is.)

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Just now, BetterForgotten said:

Frankly, Frank is the common denominator for why this show has sucked through several writing regimes at this point. I’m not sure why ABC and Varni don’t see that and continue to safeguard his job.

Van Etten back is not going to change a lick, and Korte has been on staff for like 30 years - she’s a company woman that will write whatever she’s being told to write. 

This sounds like the show truly lost... a chance to be better... today. Which is devastating. 

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Just now, BetterForgotten said:

Frankly, Frank is the common denominator for why this show has sucked through several writing regimes at this point. I’m not sure why ABC and Varni don’t see that and continue to safeguard his job.

Because structurally he's keeping the show on air and profitable, and they're clearly not interested in finding anyone else who could possibly do that.

4 minutes ago, Errol said:

Can we not resort to using memes or even commenting whatsoever if we can't respond to others in a respectful manner with our words? I'm not ready to deal with B.S. right now.

If you were somehow offended by my posting a humorous GIF, I apologize. I will return to words. PDQ. 

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1 minute ago, BetterForgotten said:

Frankly, Frank is the common denominator for why this show has sucked through several writing regimes at this point. I’m not sure why ABC and Varni don’t see that and continue to safeguard his job.

Van Etten back is not going to change a lick, and Korte has been on staff for like 30 years - she’s a company woman that will write whatever she’s being told to write. 

and she's supposedly the historian of the show and doesn't even act like she knows anything. WE get crap like Kristina and Joss acting like they don't know what Sonny really does for a living. *smdh*

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1 minute ago, Faulkner said:

Or how Mal Young sabotaged Sally Sussman for a power grab at Y&R. (Granted, SS is nowhere near the talent that PM or Labine is.)

It has felt very similar from the beginning. And I say that as someone who found a lot of improvement in the show and that the glimmers (I think) of what PM was trying to do mostly worked.

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1 minute ago, Soapsuds said:

It's on life support until ABC pulls the plug. It might come soon if The Gates blasts GH out of the water come January.

I think the days of soaps being that level of competition to each other, or anyone else, are long gone, although if it gives ABC an excuse to pull the plug and put on GMA Part 394 they might try. Ideally I would have thought that they brought Mulcahey in and made some other changes, like dumping Howarth, because they knew they had to shape up with a new soap on the way, but clearly that isn't the case. 

Good a writer as Mulcahey is (even if not necessarily as headwriter), he alone was never going to be enough to genuinely fix the show. I guess that will never happen, but if it does, it's going to take a big turnover. Not Korte, Von Etten, or other grinding mediocrities waiting out the clock.

1 minute ago, BetterForgotten said:

Frankly, Frank is the common denominator for why this show has sucked through several writing regimes at this point. I’m not sure why ABC and Varni don’t see that and continue to safeguard his job.

Van Etten back is not going to change a lick, and Korte has been on staff for like 30 years - she’s a company woman that will write whatever she’s being told to write. 

Yes, all of the good that we have seen, we'll have a very few more weeks of & then back to what we saw for 7 years with D&C. IMO. 

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18 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I wonder if Mulcahey was being undermined from the start as Frank didn't want him, like what Paul Rauch may have done to Claire Labine at GL

 

10 minutes ago, Vee said:

That is absolutely the sense I've gotten.

 

12 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

There was a clear power struggle at play - and the show was suffering for it and it showed on-screen IMO.

I agree with all three of you.  It's clear Frank didn't feel the need to replace Dan & Chris, and resented that the network did (and with someone who had history with GH and a reputation for not being easily controlled), so he did what he could to sabotage PM's work and force him to quit, while keeping Van Etten around as "breakdown writer" for the moment when PM inevitably would quit.  IOW, whether or not PM was "headwriter material," the deck was too stacked against him anyway.

Whatever.  I'm choosing to look ahead to THE GATES (where I have no doubt that PM will land, as a writer on Michele Val Jean's first staff) and saying sayonara to the rest of these sorry-ass shows.

18 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

This may be the last we ever see of PM in daytime. 

In a way, I hope it is.  Because, it's clear the industry doesn't want an intelligent writer like him around anymore.  Years ago, I said he was better off trying his luck in primetime and streaming shows.  My opinion still stands.

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