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12 hours ago, Liberty City said:

I like the name The Gates. They could always rename it to Gated or whatever the community is ultimately called, but I don't see a problem with the name.

Yes, and again, years ago, ABC aired a primetime supernatural thriller/soap that went by the exact same name. Those characters also resided in a gated community. The name of the show didn't change, although I always thought the creators wanted the audience to think "The Gates of Hell" given that it was kind of creepy.

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Everybody’s gonna try to get in on this. I’m interested in who is going to be doing casting duties.

In the old days of P&G soaps, it was common to see certain actors circulate their soaps (EON, ATWT, AW, GL, etc). Back then, it was not uncommon to even see an actor appear in a commercial for one of their products before later appearing in one of their daytime soaps. It’s been nearly 15 years since P&G has produced a daytime soap so I think we can assume that things will be slightly different this time around, and P&G appears to be assuming the role of partner, rather than primary production company as they were in the past. 
Still, the list of actors who once performed in P&G soaps is pretty impressive- Tonya Pinkins, a pre-Y&R Victoria Rowell, Amelia Marshall, Petronia Paley, Count Stovall and Tamara Tunie, to name a few. 

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2 hours ago, janea4old said:

From Gavin Houston who played Portia's brother Zeke for a few GH episodes.
(He posted a screengrab of part of a soaps.com opinion column)

https://www.instagram.com/p/C4jMok-POxj/

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Oh, I would not hate this, especially if Elizabeth Korte & Patrick Mulcahey have no interest in returning Zeke back to the canvas ⏤ which would be a crying shame, because he is one of the characters created by Dan O'Connor & Chris Van Etten that the audience as a whole seemed to really enjoy.

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Everybody’s gonna try to get in on this. I’m interested in who is going to be doing casting duties.

In the old days of P&G soaps, it was common to see certain actors circulate their soaps (EON, ATWT, AW, GL, etc). Back then, it was not uncommon to even see an actor appear in a commercial for one of their products before later appearing in one of their daytime soaps. It’s been nearly 15 years since P&G has produced a daytime soap so I think we can assume that things will be slightly different this time around, and P&G appears to be assuming the role of partner, rather than primary production company as they were in the past. 
Still, the list of actors who once performed in P&G soaps is pretty impressive- Tonya Pinkins, a pre-Y&R Victoria Rowell, Amelia Marshall, Petronia Paley, Count Stovall and Tamara Tunie, to name a few. 

I honestly would love a mixture of veteran east coast soap actors, as well as newcomers. A mix of both worlds. I really want CBS Studios, NAACP and P&G Studios to focus on east coast talent. I genuinely do. Go into community theaters, colleges and acting schools, and find some raw talent with some real promising talents. No offense to west coast soaps, but the talent is different and it shows in final products. Will it be like the hey days of casting? No. But it would be a promising sign for the future of The Gates.
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If GH is smart they'll lock Gavin Houston down. But I bet it won't happen.

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7 minutes ago, Vee said:

If GH is smart they'll lock Gavin Houston down. But I bet it won't happen.

They would be... but, selfishly, I'd rather they go to Réal Anderws first.

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4 hours ago, Liberty City said:

I honestly would love a mixture of veteran east coast soap actors, as well as newcomers. A mix of both worlds. S

Oh of course, you absolutely need both! 

Fresh faces and experienced veterans and if this is to be a 60 minute serial as has been suggested, there should be sufficient room for both. That first episode, you need strong talent to do the heavy lifting.

4 hours ago, Liberty City said:

I really want CBS Studios, NAACP and P&G Studios to focus on east coast talent

I agree with this. No offense to the West but I have seen how B’way works up close and personal, as I once interned for a B’way producer and that discipline involved— actors, even the relatively young and newbies always show up prepared.

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19 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Oh of course, you absolutely need both! 

Fresh faces and experienced veterans and if this is to be a 60 minute serial as has been suggested, there should be sufficient room for both. That first episode, you need strong talent to do the heavy lifting.

Yes. Heavy talent should introduce the soap. At least, that's our viewpoint. It would make sense. Have two promotional campaigns: one with the vets, one with the newbies, and sell it from there.

19 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

I agree with this. No offense to the West but I have seen how B’way works up close and personal, as I once interned for a B’way producer and that discipline involved— actors, even the relatively young and newbies always show up prepared.

Yes. This is why east coast talent showed up. They had the talent. West coast, especially by the '90s, was models trying to act since they were maxing out their age groups.

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5 hours ago, Liberty City said:

They would be... but, selfishly, I'd rather they go to Réal Anderws first.

He'd be a great casting choice.

Shemar Moore's CBS show, SWAT, is airing its final season...I doubt he'd want a full time daytime return, but given it's CBS, perhaps he'd agree to help launch the show with a return of Malcolm Winters on Y&R, taking the character to The Gates for a 3 month arc.

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57 minutes ago, DaytimeFan said:

He'd be a great casting choice.

Shemar Moore's CBS show, SWAT, is airing its final season...I doubt he'd want a full time daytime return, but given it's CBS, perhaps he'd agree to help launch the show with a return of Malcolm Winters on Y&R, taking the character to The Gates for a 3 month arc.

Nah, if he were to join TG for a three-month arc, I'd want it to be as a new character.  Perhaps, as a successful businessman with a cool-sounding name like (sorry, Eddie Murphy) "Dexter St. Jacques," lol.

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3 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

I agree with this. No offense to the West but I have seen how B’way works up close and personal, as I once interned for a B’way producer and that discipline involved— actors, even the relatively young and newbies always show up prepared.

It is my fondest wish that the NYC actor/soap pipeline resumes in whatever altered way possible. It is a cultural heritage as well as an economic boon. I have bored so many young actors back East with this lol.

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On 3/14/2024 at 7:29 PM, Sapounopera said:

Perhaps the family will be called Gates as well. 

 

On 3/14/2024 at 10:51 PM, DramatistDreamer said:

The last daytime soap opera that used the family’s name that I can think of is Ryan’s Hope, which at least, wasn’t too straightforward thankfully. As soap fans, I think we’re generally used to titles that are a little more elaborate on some level. I think that’s why it comes off as a working title for so many.

Not only that, but RH's title worked (until it didn't, when ABC kept trying to sideline the titular family, but that's another story) because it was a half-hour show.  Every good story that show ever told tied back to the Ryans in some way.  I don't see how an hourlong, daily soap could feature one family nonstop, and I fear the rest of the characters' stories would feel like filler if the show were named after one family.

Anyway, I love being able to quibble over the title of a new, promising soap opera.

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I'd love to know where they intend TG's setting to be, because that could help in determining an actual title for the series as well.

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1 hour ago, DeliaIrisFan said:

 

Not only that, but RH's title worked (until it didn't, when ABC kept trying to sideline the titular family, but that's another story) because it was a half-hour show.  Every good story that show ever told tied back to the Ryans in some way.  I don't see how an hourlong, daily soap could feature one family nonstop, and I fear the rest of the characters' stories would feel like filler if the show were named after one family.

Anyway, I love being able to quibble over the title of a new, promising soap opera.

Interesting point about the fact that RH was a 30 minute serial.
In this day and age, I don’t see a network soap being able to center one family, unless they are going to make that world really cloistered, to the point of being nearly claustrophobic. A radio soap, sure- a script to screen with a beginning, middle and end, yes, but a continuing drama, somehow I don’t see viewers putting up with that. Today’s viewers definitely expect more.

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