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1 minute ago, Errol said:

During the Grammys, Beyonce said, " I think sometimes genre is a code word to keep us in our place as artists."

I know she was specifically referring to music, but I love this statement. I've long felt that soap operas as a genre are loved and adored by all of us, but at the same time, it is limiting when it comes to TV watchers and media. It's treated like the wicked stepchild with supposed "low-tier talent," as I've been told over the years.

With Beyond the Gates coming our way, I feel now more than ever that soaps should get the recognition they deserve as respected entertainment programs have kept fans tuning in for 94 years, starting on radio before transitioning to traditional television and now even on streaming.

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2 minutes ago, Errol said:

During the Grammys, Beyonce said, " I think sometimes genre is a code word to keep us in our place as artists."

I know she was specifically referring to music, but I love this statement. I've long felt that soap operas as a genre are loved and adored by all of us, but at the same time, it is limiting when it comes to TV watchers and media. It's treated like the wicked stepchild with supposed "low-tier talent," as I've been told over the years.

With Beyond the Gates coming our way, I feel now more than ever that soaps should get the recognition they deserve as respected entertainment programs that have kept fans tuning in for 94 years, starting on radio before transitioning to traditional television and now even on streaming.

Love this!

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Perhaps we can start giving BTG more grace and respect by asking people in this thread not to call it "officially trash" before it even airs, and spamming it with videos that call Michele Val Jean, a legendary soap scribe with decades of great work, 'a bootlicker'.

But that's just my take.

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9 minutes ago, Errol said:

During the Grammys, Beyonce said, " I think sometimes genre is a code word to keep us in our place as artists."

I know she was specifically referring to music, but I love this statement. I've long felt that soap operas as a genre are loved and adored by all of us, but at the same time, it is limiting when it comes to TV watchers and media. It's treated like the wicked stepchild with supposed "low-tier talent," as I've been told over the years.

With Beyond the Gates coming our way, I feel now more than ever that soaps should get the recognition they deserve as respected entertainment programs that have kept fans tuning in for 94 years, starting on radio before transitioning to traditional television and now even on streaming.

Amen to that. 

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It's going to have to be accepted at some point that people are going to say what they want to say. If BTG is destined to survive then it will, irregardless of any viewpoints that those may have. But we ain't seen nothin yet. Just wait until that first episode airs and then look for the plethora of online articles afterwards of those seeking to tear it down. This show has a PREDOMINANTLY black cast and there are those, perhaps many, who already despise it for that alone. So like Anita Dupree said "GET READY."

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I'm not talking about anyone else. I'm not discussing hypothetical articles. I'm asking why you think the show is 'officially trash' and are cosigning the opinion of some toxic YouTube troll who you said was 'totally right' that Michele Val Jean is a bootlicking sellout. Was it before or after they didn't set the show in the location you wanted? Didn't cast the actors you wanted, or didn't use the fanfiction characters you invented in this thread based on the version of the show you invented in your head, in this thread?

You're right that people have a right to their opinions. But this is the first new American soap opera on network television in over 20 years, and arguably the bulk of this forum is excited about it, including a lot of people who have been here a good portion of those 20+ years. I think they have a right to that space, and to not be inundated with preemptive negativity and nastiness. I don't have any authority to tell you what to post, where to post or how to post, and I can't report you for it. But I am going to call you on what you're saying, and ask you to back it up. And if you can't, you might want to consider reconsidering til February 24th.

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I've began accepting the fact that this beautiful project (now a reality) called "Beyond the Gates" will shine brightest and strongest... in moments when it's being surrounded by toxicity and trash. Even if God himself came and head-wrote the show... some particular people would find extreme faults or something to hate or ridicule. And I'm not talking about the normal constructive criticism or dislike of certain aspects (that is welcome and should not be repelled), but pre-directed, pre-planned, derogatory, passive-aggressive, all-kinds-of-phobic agenda that we've all seen and reacted to in this topic. Agenda whose main focus is to create a toxic atmosphere and distort the reality. To change the fact that... till now... the reaction to the show has been amazingly positive. 

And just like a stunning rose in midst of hideous weeds... becomes even more beautiful when she is being surrounded by ugliness... this obvious, transparent and quite laughable agenda will be just that... a boring weed you have to look at... sometimes... because it stands next to the rose.  

38 minutes ago, Maxim said:

I've began accepting the fact that this beautiful project (now a reality) called "Beyond the Gates" will shine brightest and strongest... in moments when it's being surrounded by toxicity and trash. Even if God himself came and head-wrote the show... some particular people would find extreme faults or something to hate or ridicule. And I'm not talking about the normal constructive criticism or dislike of certain aspects (that is welcome and should not be repelled), but pre-directed, pre-planned, derogatory, passive-aggressive, all-kinds-of-phobic agenda that we've all seen and reacted to in this topic. Agenda whose main focus is to create a toxic atmosphere and distort the reality. To change the fact that... till now... the reaction to the show has been amazingly positive. 

And just like a stunning rose in midst of hideous weeds... becomes even more beautiful when she is being surrounded by ugliness... this obvious, transparent and quite laughable agenda will be just that... a boring weed you have to look at... sometimes... because it stands next to the rose.  

Boorah! WTG! FTW!

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8 hours ago, Errol said:

During the Grammys, Beyonce said, " I think sometimes genre is a code word to keep us in our place as artists."

I know she was specifically referring to music, but I love this statement. I've long felt that soap operas as a genre are loved and adored by all of us, but at the same time, it is limiting when it comes to TV watchers and media. It's treated like the wicked stepchild with supposed "low-tier talent," as I've been told over the years.

With Beyond the Gates coming our way, I feel now more than ever that soaps should get the recognition they deserve as respected entertainment programs that have kept fans tuning in for 94 years, starting on radio before transitioning to traditional television and now even on streaming.

AMEN! LOVED THIS!

6 hours ago, Maxim said:

I've began accepting the fact that this beautiful project (now a reality) called "Beyond the Gates" will shine brightest and strongest... in moments when it's being surrounded by toxicity and trash. Even if God himself came and head-wrote the show... some particular people would find extreme faults or something to hate or ridicule. And I'm not talking about the normal constructive criticism or dislike of certain aspects (that is welcome and should not be repelled), but pre-directed, pre-planned, derogatory, passive-aggressive, all-kinds-of-phobic agenda that we've all seen and reacted to in this topic. Agenda whose main focus is to create a toxic atmosphere and distort the reality. To change the fact that... till now... the reaction to the show has been amazingly positive. 

And just like a stunning rose in midst of hideous weeds... becomes even more beautiful when she is being surrounded by ugliness... this obvious, transparent and quite laughable agenda will be just that... a boring weed you have to look at... sometimes... because it stands next to the rose.  

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

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10 hours ago, Errol said:

During the Grammys, Beyonce said, " I think sometimes genre is a code word to keep us in our place as artists."

I know she was specifically referring to music, but I love this statement. I've long felt that soap operas as a genre are loved and adored by all of us, but at the same time, it is limiting when it comes to TV watchers and media. It's treated like the wicked stepchild with supposed "low-tier talent," as I've been told over the years.

With Beyond the Gates coming our way, I feel now more than ever that soaps should get the recognition they deserve as respected entertainment programs that have kept fans tuning in for 94 years, starting on radio before transitioning to traditional television and now even on streaming.

I will keep it cute and simple (and to soap specifics), and say I agree. It's overdue that soaps get the recognition as a genre (overall) that they deserve.

8 hours ago, Vee said:

I'm not talking about anyone else. I'm not discussing hypothetical articles. I'm asking why you think the show is 'officially trash' and are cosigning the opinion of some toxic YouTube troll who you said was 'totally right' that Michele Val Jean is a bootlicking sellout. Was it before or after they didn't set the show in the location you wanted? Didn't cast the actors you wanted, or didn't use the fanfiction characters you invented in this thread based on the version of the show you invented in your head, in this thread?

You're right that people have a right to their opinions. But this is the first new American soap opera on network television in over 20 years, and arguably the bulk of this forum is excited about it, including a lot of people who have been here a good portion of those 20+ years. I think they have a right to that space, and to not be inundated with preemptive negativity and nastiness. I don't have any authority to tell you what to post, where to post or how to post, and I can't report you for it. But I am going to call you on what you're saying, and ask you to back it up. And if you can't, you might want to consider reconsidering til February 24th.

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It's funny how some troll on YouTube called MVJ a "bootlicker" and a sellout when YT is nothing BUT bootlickers and sellouts, lol.

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From the beyondthegatesCBS ig page on this post:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DFYfJc7Toay/
The IG post has five slides/images, each one is a screenshot of comments on their IG page.


There's another copy of the same on the
beyondthegatescbs facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/BeyondTheGatesCBS

 

Link to this facebook post
https://www.facebook.com/BeyondTheGatesCBS/posts/pfbid037LzhVE4C85RVpYvAGj5CDxEGcBuaewQLaLref5MVAaGW3puszqhmnRt3xV2FB1Axl

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28 minutes ago, Khan said:

It's funny how some troll on YouTube called MVJ a "bootlicker" and a sellout when YT is nothing BUT bootlickers and sellouts, lol.

Exactly; seems like that person is butt-hurt the NAACP won't acknowledge their lacklustre creations they try to peddle.

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That's exactly what it is. That low level troll is mad he isn't making it and it especially burns him up to see a Black woman have her ideas brought to screen. YouTube is full of Black woman hating Black men.

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