Members Markjeh Posted October 1, 2019 Members Share Posted October 1, 2019 What is the scrapped storyline you are talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted October 1, 2019 Members Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) I wasn't talking about their personal relationship, @Toups. I'm sure Sheffer was wonderful to a great many people in his life and career. Most everyone who had worked under him has attested to that fact. As a head writer and storyteller, however, his writing for Barbara was ABOMINABLE. He literally took one of my all-time favorite characters in daytime and turned her into an irredeemable monster whom I wanted off ATWT like yesterday. No, I think that was Passanante (although I could be wrong, and probably am). Believe me, though, the damage had long been done by that point. Exactly. Again, as engaging as Sheffer was with everyone, the man simply had no business BEING in this business. Thanks, @Franko. I hadn't read your post yet when I answered Chit's. Edited October 1, 2019 by Khan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted October 1, 2019 Members Share Posted October 1, 2019 Going by Tommy's Eulogy he was really a giving, generous man. @Khan, well, what do you get that from? Characterizations? Plots? Uneven/even? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faulkner Posted October 1, 2019 Members Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) Colleen Zenk was, alongside Nancy Lee Grahn, Lauren Koslow, HBS, Zimmer, and Susan Flannery, was one of the few actresses born before 1960 who got a platform in the aughts. It’s no wonder she feels eternally grateful for the showcase, even if she played a gargoyle. Edited October 1, 2019 by Faulkner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted October 1, 2019 Members Share Posted October 1, 2019 You don't count Crystal Chappell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faulkner Posted October 1, 2019 Members Share Posted October 1, 2019 She’s born in 1965. I thought about her too. There are other older actresses who got story as well (Jeanne Cooper, Slezak), but it was a dwindling number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted October 1, 2019 Members Share Posted October 1, 2019 Okay, just so there's an explanation for Crystal not being on a list! LOL Give me a bit & I'll remember what it's important to tell about it. And, Hi, By the way. Long time no see. I noticed in the clip where Hoagie was accepting the Emmy that when he thanked Goutman, Marcia McCabe was with him & gave him a big hug & kiss, so they had not split up yet at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted October 1, 2019 Members Share Posted October 1, 2019 More who died too young: Whitney Houston @ 49, Shell Kepler @ 50, Kathleen Layman @ 65, Taylor Negron @ 58, Nathaniel Marston @ 40, ... I am going to find more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted October 1, 2019 Members Share Posted October 1, 2019 The umbrella storyline they were going to do was going to be much longer. I don't remember who was responsible for scrapping it & changing Rose's death so drastically. Could have been network interference, could have been Goutman, could have been HW. I think you can ferret out a whole bunch about it from this Usenet newsgroup link, RATSc etc. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs/ATWT$3A$20Lily$20$26$20Rose$20Scrapped$20Story|sort:date/rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs/xafFxREG0r8/v5RtjqOj0-YJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Toups Posted October 1, 2019 Administrator Share Posted October 1, 2019 Alright. LOL Yeah, I totally misinterpreted your post. My bad. Please register in order to view this content As for the writing of Barbara, maybe Colleen just enjoyed playing a darker role and that's why she loved him/the writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted October 1, 2019 Members Share Posted October 1, 2019 I think Colleen and many others, across the board, enjoyed the airtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted October 1, 2019 Members Share Posted October 1, 2019 I agree. I remember when Martha first began to use her native New Jersey tongue & I truly thought that "Holden" was gonna bust a gut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted October 1, 2019 Members Share Posted October 1, 2019 Terry Lester @ 53, Richard Biggs @ 44, Ben Hendrickson @ 56, Tom O'Rourke @ 65, Jacqueline Courtney @ 64, Anthony Herrerra @ 67, Claire Malis @ 69, Virginia Vestoff @ 43, Carolyn Sue Jones @ 53, Charita Bauer @ 63, Grayson Hall @ 63, Samuel D. Ratcliffe @ 50, Robert Shaw @ 51, Vince Williams @ 40, Nancy Addison @ 56, Doug Watson @ 68, Rebecca Schaeffer @ 22, Emily McLaughlin @ 63, Michael David Morrison @ 33, Doug Marland @ 59. THE END Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted October 2, 2019 Members Share Posted October 2, 2019 Nancy Addison... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted October 2, 2019 Members Share Posted October 2, 2019 Yeah, she's above, died at 56 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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