Members DramatistDreamer Posted August 3, 2019 Members Share Posted August 3, 2019 This time in a Walmart in El Paso, TX. I'm going to wait to post anything specific because what I'm mostly seeing is not official yet but I hope it's not as bad as initial reports suggest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members DRW50 Posted August 3, 2019 Members Share Posted August 3, 2019 In this case I'm relieved at the lack of faux-piousness. It inspires people to fight harder, and I do think the last few years have had more gains on the gun control front (even though I don't believe gun control will ever stop most of the worst attacks) than I thought possible in the last 20 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted August 3, 2019 Author Members Share Posted August 3, 2019 19 Dead. Good Lord, what kind of country is this?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wendy Posted August 3, 2019 Members Share Posted August 3, 2019 A nation held hostage by the NRA and the GOP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ReddFoxx Posted August 3, 2019 Members Share Posted August 3, 2019 This shouldn't be commonplace, but it has become that way. The only way to get some decent gun control into place is for non-voters to start voting. These polls of all adults always show more liberal numbers on issues, but polls of voters are less liberal. There is room to change business as usual, we just need to engage more people. This is literally a fight for our lives. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted August 3, 2019 Members Share Posted August 3, 2019 I think the main issue at this point is beyond gun control and is into combating white supremacy. White supremacists will be able to get guns with or without stronger laws. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted August 3, 2019 Author Members Share Posted August 3, 2019 The sad fact of the matter is there is a distinct lack of will in the U.S., which will go to other countries halfway around the world, drop bombs in the name of anti-terror but doesn't recognize that these mostly white males are terrorizing the American public, who cannot go to an outdoor concert, a food festival, church, synagogue, temple, mosque (there have been two reports of mosques being set on fire), school or even to the mall without fearing for their lives. These guys are terrorists and the sooner the American public faces that fact, the closer we may get to a day where people don't have to fear being gunned down for doing the most everyday activities. Perhaps if it were American citizens Americans and the U.S. government might be a bit more meticulous and no so haphazard about how they drop bombs on people-- although the U.S. has been known to drop bombs on its own citizens (see: Philadelphia in the mid-1980s). The U.S. abhors having honest discussions on racism but if you mention the word "Terrorism" oh boy! Perhaps the answer is to mention these guys as being terrorists. Full stop. Then watch how the process in how they are dealt with develops. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Khan Posted August 4, 2019 Members Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) I'm literally shocked the security officer who saw him with the gun and the kids didn't shoot him on sight. Edited August 4, 2019 by Khan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted August 4, 2019 Members Share Posted August 4, 2019 Another mass shooting, this one outside a bar in Dayton. https://www.vox.com/2019/8/4/20753630/dayton-ohio-mass-shooting-oregon-district-gunman-what-we-know PBS Newshour recently went to Dayton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted August 4, 2019 Members Share Posted August 4, 2019 They need to remake the movie "While You Were Sleeping". This is a national crisis and nothing can be done because the folks radicalizing the white males are our "leaders". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted August 4, 2019 Members Share Posted August 4, 2019 As far as the GOP and the NRA are concerned, these lunatics are killing all the right people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted August 4, 2019 Author Members Share Posted August 4, 2019 I would say that Bernie is f*cking clueless but I suspect that he knows precisely what he's doing. (Also, perhaps trying to signal the disaffected Trumpers that he hopes to pick up support from, maybe?) Seems as if Bernie hopes the rest of us and the world are clueless to not figure out his game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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