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2 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

Yeah! It was a hot mess. And i doubt it would've improved.ย 

Terrible show. I have no desire to know what happened next to those characters. It had so much potential with the New Orleans setting, but it was completely squandered.ย 

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11 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

Yeah! It was a hot mess. And i doubt it would've improved.ย 

They were a forced-woke, trope-driven series with no underlying character connection/compassion/emotional pull. Re-watching the pilot from the 2000 Showtime series you just felt some kind of natural, emotional pull with the characters... you got NOTHING with this reboot.

2 hours ago, Liberty City said:

They were a forced-woke, trope-driven series with no underlying character connection/compassion/emotional pull. Re-watching the pilot from the 2000 Showtime series you just felt some kind of natural, emotional pull with the characters... you got NOTHING with this reboot.

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15 hours ago, Liberty City said:

They were a forced-woke, trope-driven series with no underlying character connection/compassion/emotional pull. Re-watching the pilot from the 2000 Showtime series you just felt some kind of natural, emotional pull with the characters... you got NOTHING with this reboot.

I actually think the โ€œwokeโ€ aspect of the show was the only thing that workedโ€ฆ sure, the characters realistically wouldโ€™ve faced more adversity in the face of being so othered, but it felt so refreshing to just have diversity in so many forms be featured, celebrated, and treated pretty authentically. ย But, ya, there was admittedly a lot of wish fulfillment on the flip side. ย And QaF was always a show that fearlessly faced bigotry, it didnโ€™t pretend it didnโ€™t exist (or minimize it).

My problem with this reboot was that it was on f-ing crack. ย They did EVERYthing in 8 or however many episodes. ย Literally burned through almost every couple combination and no one had to sit with any consequences from their or othersโ€™ actions. ย Thatโ€™s where I totally agree with your โ€œno underlying character connection/compassion/emotional pull.โ€

Also, it was a mind f having the Michael/Lindsay amalgamation character in Ruthie! ย Lol

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I grew to enjoy this show, but it was very uneven. I loved the diversity of the cast, but I wish there was more show than tell, if that makes sense. I felt like the dialogue was very clunky over explaining everything instead of letting us learn about these characters in a more natural way. Once they got all the explaining out of the way there was a good show to be found. I do wish they got a second season to see if it continued to improve.

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8 hours ago, DynamiteKiddo said:

My problem with this reboot was that it was on f-ing crack. ย They did EVERYthing in 8 or however many episodes. ย Literally burned through almost every couple combination and no one had to sit with any consequences from their or othersโ€™ actions. ย Thatโ€™s where I totally agree with your โ€œno underlying character connection/compassion/emotional pull.โ€

Yeah, Noahโ€™s problem with meth was brought up and dropped. Brodie was in love with Noah, then sort of in love with Argus, then discovered heโ€™s in love with his trans best friend, who also happens to be the mother of his kids. Brodie finding out that Noah was dating Julian was a big cliffhanger, then basically nada. Kim Cattrall was hooking up with the non-binary parent of her grandkids. Argus finds out he is HIV+.


None of it made sense or felt earned. Just a lot of plot-driven nonsense to add soapy appeal without understanding what soaps are about. It felt like he didnโ€™t really understand his characters and therefore didnโ€™t have a lot of confidence they would merit an audienceโ€™s attention without all the convoluted mess. Dunn needed to study Peyton Place and Knots Landing and write accordingly. But that type of approach probably wouldnโ€™t have gotten this project greenlit.

I love seeing characters we donโ€™t usually see represented, but if itโ€™s not backed up with the basics of good writing, or even just good entertainment, itโ€™s all for naught. The episode that focused on the sex party for disabled queer people had a lot of beautiful moments, but it would have hit harder if we had gotten to know Marvin a bit better beforehand. It felt like Dunn was writing this for short attention spans, thought he needed to address everything NOW, and self-sabotaged.ย 

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