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This topic got archived, so I will start it up again and bring over the info gathered on the previous thread, as well as updating.

 

Young Lives

ANEW syndicated soap opera may have found the ultimate approach to ''give 'em what they want'' programming. ''Young Lives'' is having a ''special preview'' this week at 5:30 P.M. on WPIX-TV, Channel 11. Viewers who watch all five episodes are being asked to answer several questions being published in the current issue of TV Guide.

Among other things, the producers want to know if the situations and characters are realistic: Which characters did you find most interesting? Most realistic? Would you watch ''Young Lives'' on a regular basis? Would you watch it with your family? Would you prefer to see it in the afternoon, early evening or after 10 P.M.? Presumably the answers to these burning questions will be carefully collated by the psychologists and family counselors who are said to have helped in the preparation of the show, and the producers will be left with a thoroughly computerized foolproof construction.

Judging from Monday's first half-hour episode, ''Young Lives'' is about as realistic as any other soap opera -and that observation is not intended to be snide. For years, the soaps have been tackling social problems well before they or the dramatic treatments of them were allowed into the more heavily patrolled precincts of primetime. Using a clever, carefully calculated mix of realism and fantasy, ''daytime drama'' weaves its own special spell.

The problem is that the plot lines, devised and usually written by committees, tend to be superficial and simpleminded, more concerned with milking a story for as long as possible than with exploring its more complicated ramifications. ''Young Lives'' would appear to be no exception to the hackneyed norm.

The series is being touted in the ads as being ''about young people, and the people who share their lives - about romance, rebellion, relationships.'' The people who share their lives seem to be parents. Susan's mother, for instance, is recently divorced and is being wooed by Johnny, the rough-edged owner of a nightclub. Johnny is not totally uncouth. He does recognize the name of Mikhail Baryshnikov when it's mentioned, though he quickly notes that ''Misha'' is a great athelete.

Problem No. 1 is that Susan, who is trying to get admitted to the American Dance Conservatory, does not like Johnny. When he tries to be friendly and says something about Susan having a job at his place, she shouts, ''I didn't take dance lessons for 10 years to work in your stupid club.'' Mother looks understandably apprehensive.

At high school, Susan and her friends spend most of their time in a luncheonette setting complete with booths and pinball machines. Here they talk about whether to have one or two ears pierced, or who has invited whom to the weekend party. Prominent in this group is Problem No. 2, a pretty young woman named Rachel, who is aggressive, bitchy and experienced. Slithering up to Brad, the local nice guy and allround heartthrob, Rachel begins nibbling at his face. ''C'mon, Rachel, not here,'' whispers embarrassed Brad. ''Well,'' smirks Rachel, ''let's go somewhere else.''

The third problem is Dirk, Melanie's younger brother who is obviously flying high on something as he listens, droopy eyed, to Bruce Springsteen in his loudly blaring portable radio. Melanie admits to her friends that ''Dirk is having a little problem right now.'' Meanwhile, there is Tony, a dark-haired ethnic type, who is also catching the attention of many of the girls. Obviously bad news, Tony seems to be a friend of Dirk's even though he looks several years older. But when Tony asks ''You wanna do something?'' visions of joints begin dancing in Dirk's head.

Clearly, a lot of plot was stuffed into the first episode of ''Young Lives.'' At fadeout, Dirk's mother was confronting him with a strange looking object - a water pipe for smoking pot - that she found in his bedroom. He insisted that it was an incense burner. She was deciding to show it to his father. He was looking increasingly glum. Would I watch this on a regular basis? I don't think so, but I probably would dip into it once a month just to see how things are going with the kids.

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I can't speak for Titus, but I think "Tribes" was an interesting concept that was ultimately bogged down by a mediocre execution (not to mention, lack of network affiliate clearance).  Same goes for "Swan's Crossing," which, despite its' brief run, developed a cult-ish following that I'll never understand.

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2 hours ago, Khan said:

I can't speak for Titus, but I think "Tribes" was an interesting concept that was ultimately bogged down by a mediocre execution (not to mention, lack of network affiliate clearance).  Same goes for "Swan's Crossing," which, despite its' brief run, developed a cult-ish following that I'll never understand.

I've heard of Swan's Crossing, but I've never watched. I believe it to be on YouTube though. Something about the title never really did it for me.

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Swan's Crossing.. SMG's audition reel for playing Kendall on AMC.  I was in middle school and it came on just as I got home from school.  I think it was left with a cliffhanger.

 

Tribes.. Created by leah Laiman (but headwritten by Trent Jones (I guess he played Ken George Jones on RH) and Mary munisteri (from Ryan's Hope)).  It was just getting it's footing when the show was canceled with none of their stories resolved (Michelle Stafford came on in the last few weeks and was slated for a romance with one of the lead characters in the show's main triangle when the plug was pulled).

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1 hour ago, Soaplovers said:

Swan's Crossing.. SMG's audition reel for playing Kendall on AMC.  I was in middle school and it came on just as I got home from school.  I think it was left with a cliffhanger.

 

Oh, well.  We'll always have the jean jackets, bubblegum cards and zit removers to remember it by.

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I always envisioned a teen soap airing multiple times a week at night on cable, around the time when the networks are airing their nightly newscasts. Tons of characters but never too many all at once, sorta how the British soaps are modeled in way where there are a lot of characters officially in the cast, but they move pretty regularly from the backburner to the frontburner. For a few weeks, you might have stories running focused on the cheer squad, the stoner kids, and a group of kids who work together at a supermarket, but then later, you'd have a major story focused on the basketball jocks and their girlfriends, then the band kids, etc. Some stories would last a long time, others would be short, some would be comic relief, others would be really deep, human issues. Degrassi did this well, but there were things that could be improved upon, IMO.

The main thing is that a teen soap worth some investment would have got to get over the obsession with cartoony stereotypes and cliques. High school kids are more alike than they are different, and that would have to be the central theme of the show. That head cheerleader is no more confident or "powerful" than the quiet girl in the corner who cuts herself.

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That sounds like a really good concept for a teen-oriented soap.

 

18 minutes ago, All My Shadows said:

High school kids are more alike than they are different, and that would have to be the central theme of the show. 

 

I always felt like that was the main point of "Freaks and Geeks," a show that I love and miss to this day.

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7 minutes ago, Khan said:

That sounds like a really good concept for a teen-oriented soap.

 

 

I always felt like that was the main point of "Freaks and Geeks," a show that I love and miss to this day.

I've never gotten around to watching Freaks and Geeks. I've always been turned off by what I perceived as an "us vs. them" narrative but that's just a surface-level judgment. I'll probably give it a shot soon.

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I watched Swans and Tribes but scheduling/shuffling made it hard for me to keep up with either as a sixth grader. The one teen soap I watched most consistently was Nickelodeon's Fifteen. Every Sunday afternoon after church. I was obsessed with that show. When I met Ryan Reynolds at a screening of Van Wilder in D.C., that's the first thing I asked him about. He played far-from-heartthrob dorky Billy, Canadian accent and all ("What are you talking aboot, Brooke?")

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5 hours ago, SFK said:

I watched Swans and Tribes but scheduling/shuffling made it hard for me to keep up with either as a sixth grader. The one teen soap I watched most consistently was Nickelodeon's Fifteen. Every Sunday afternoon after church. I was obsessed with that show. When I met Ryan Reynolds at a screening of Van Wilder in D.C., that's the first thing I asked him about. He played far-from-heartthrob dorky Billy, Canadian accent and all ("What are you talking aboot, Brooke?")

I totally remember Fifteen! I had my whole family watching! Wasn't Brooke the bitch?!

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I'll have you know that "Swans Crossing" debuted exactly 26 years ago today, and I didn't look that up! For some reason, I remember it debuted on June 29th, 1992.  I was a wee boy of 9 years old and I loved every cheesy moment of it. Yes, the entire 2 month run can be found on YouTube. It's atrociously cheesy and 90's as all get out, but has an endearing, innocent charm to it. I don't think any couple was ever shown even kissing onscreen. It was always a case of "leaning in, then fade to black."   It gave us Sarah Michelle Gellar, Shane McDermott (whatever happened to him?), and one of the Sweet Valley twins, Brittany Daniel. 

 

They aired it locally in Chicago at 2pm on an independent station (which later became UPN). Then, reran it a couple times in the wee hours of the morning. As a youngster who didn't know how television worked at the time, I kept hoping it'd return the following summer and held out hope until the summer of '93 when the same station brought on another syndicated soap, "Paradise Beach" (which gave us Ingo Rademacher, pre-GH). 

 

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I loved me some Paradise Beach. As I’ve said before Ingo and Manu Bennett made me realize some things about myself.

 

Swan’s Crossing had the most ridiculously ‘90s opening credits, though, with everyone awkwardly dancing.

 

Also loved Fifteen and cheered when Kelly stabbed her evil bestie Brooke in the back. It’s funny that Enuka Okuma has had the most enduring career of any cast member (aside from Ryan Reynolds, of course).

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Swans Crossing was in the early 90s... the early 90s was a weird hybrid of 80s styles with a more 90s modest twist to it.  The hair wasn't as big, the shoulder pads weren't as big, etc.

 

Fifteen.. I never could get into that show only because it seemed to change from season to season.  I recall when Kelly stabbed Brooke in the back at the end of season 1 with Brooke vowing to get even.. and than season 2 started and Kelly was nowhere to be found and she had a new side kick.  The only consistent plot thread was Ashley/Matt.  Laura Harris (who played Ashley) had a decent career for awhile post-Fifteen including being in the Faculty (1998 horror movie) and was on a short-lived ABC drama Women's Murder Club.

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I still remember, “I now pronounce you SANDY... SWAN!” “NO!”

 

Shane McDermott and SMG had a nice Valmont/Merteuil chemistry, sort of presaging SMG’s role opposite Ryan Phillippe in Cruel Intentions.

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