Are the Julius & Vivienne on contract?

 

 

No, but they have beefed up their airtime.  Wonderful addition to the show!

In a year they'll be on as much as Marcus, Dayzee & Justin.

In a year they'll be on as much as Marcus, Dayzee & Justin.

Might be the case, but they already had MUCH better material than those characters ever got. Actually, the Avants are the first actor's of color to ever portray proper characters on this show. And they all are doing splendid jobs! Too bad that the actress playing Dayzee is no longer with B&B. She would ignite fire in those circles.

In a year they'll be on as much as Marcus, Dayzee & Justin.

Might be the case, but they already had MUCH better material than those characters ever got. Actually, the Avants are the first actor's of color to ever portray proper characters on this show. And they all are doing splendid jobs! Too bad that the actress playing Dayzee is no longer with B&B. She would ignite fire in those circles.

Marcus & Dayzee were proper characters.

 

They just weren't written for (and in Marcus case needed to be recast).

 

B&B is also sticking to the usual minority quota. There's no reason that because the Avants have a story that Carter can't as well.

Marcus was a worthless character that should have never existed. I would kill him off and use that as a springboard to bring Dayzee back. She should have been around for the transgender reveal. She could easily be paired up with Carter who she leans on following Marcus' death

There's nothing wrong with the Marcus character (who is related to three core Y&R/B&B families) that a good recast wouldn't fix.

 

 

There's nothing wrong with the Marcus character (who is related to three core Y&R/B&B families) that a good recast wouldn't fix.

 

 

I also disagree. He was pointless from the beginning, then suddenly propped as a "Forrester" - although he was DONNA Hogan's son and the acting of Texas Battle didn't help much either. The Dayzee girl tried to save him - but of course Brad Bell had zero interest in these characters, so...

There's nothing wrong with the Marcus character (who is related to three core Y&R/B&B families) that a good recast wouldn't fix.

 

 

He served zero purpose and IA with what Sheilaforever wrote.  Carter with as little as he's been given feels better defined. I didnt like how he was a retcon for Donna who we saw in her teen years. She had no black baby that she gave up. I also hated that they had Eric adopt his grown ass. Being played by the terrible Texas Battle was the least of his problems. The writing surrounding him was just terrible and it was embarassing to watch

Basic and unimpressive. 

There's nothing wrong with the Marcus character (who is related to three core Y&R/B&B families) that a good recast wouldn't fix.

 

 

He served zero purpose and IA with what Sheilaforever wrote.  Carter with as little as he's been given feels better defined. I didnt like how he was a retcon for Donna who we saw in her teen years. She had no black baby that she gave up. I also hated that they had Eric adopt his grown ass. Being played by the terrible Texas Battle was the least of his problems. The writing surrounding him was just terrible and it was embarassing to watch

It's not an either/or situation.

 

Carter as a character isn't anymore well defined than Marcus & wouldn't even be on the show if it wasn't for Marcus.

 

The only difference between the two characters is that Carter is played by a marginally more talented actor in Lawrence Saint Victor & if shoddily written retconned sons (played by mediocre actors) are a problem for B&B audiences to accept then the entire Spencer family needs to be shown the door.

 

Basic and unimpressive. 

Just like the show lately

There's nothing wrong with the Marcus character (who is related to three core Y&R/B&B families) that a good recast wouldn't fix.

 

 

He served zero purpose and IA with what Sheilaforever wrote.  Carter with as little as he's been given feels better defined. I didnt like how he was a retcon for Donna who we saw in her teen years. She had no black baby that she gave up. I also hated that they had Eric adopt his grown ass. Being played by the terrible Texas Battle was the least of his problems. The writing surrounding him was just terrible and it was embarassing to watch

It's not an either/or situation.

 

Carter as a character isn't anymore well defined than Marcus & wouldn't even be on the show if it wasn't for Marcus.

 

The only difference between the two characters is that Carter is played by a marginally more talented actor in Lawrence Saint Victor & if shoddily written retconned sons (played by mediocre actors) are a problem for B&B audiences to accept then the entire Spencer family needs to be shown the door.

when the show is only 30 minutes with limited time, it almost is. We'll just have to agree to disagree bc I dont think the character of Marcus is worth investing in. Thankfully they brought Zende on and there's Carter still there on the sidelines

Edited November 15, 201510 yr by Cheap21

There's nothing wrong with the Marcus character (who is related to three core Y&R/B&B families) that a good recast wouldn't fix.

 

 

He served zero purpose and IA with what Sheilaforever wrote.  Carter with as little as he's been given feels better defined. I didnt like how he was a retcon for Donna who we saw in her teen years. She had no black baby that she gave up. I also hated that they had Eric adopt his grown ass. Being played by the terrible Texas Battle was the least of his problems. The writing surrounding him was just terrible and it was embarassing to watch

It's not an either/or situation.

 

Carter as a character isn't anymore well defined than Marcus & wouldn't even be on the show if it wasn't for Marcus.

 

The only difference between the two characters is that Carter is played by a marginally more talented actor in Lawrence Saint Victor & if shoddily written retconned sons (played by mediocre actors) are a problem for B&B audiences to accept then the entire Spencer family needs to be shown the door.

 

when the show is only 30 minutes with limited time, it almost is. We'll just have to agree to disagree bc I dont think the character of Marcus is worth investing in. Thankfully they brought Zende on and there's Carter still there on the sidelines

Zende is a boring character IMO…the actor is not very good either….

There's nothing wrong with the Marcus character (who is related to three core Y&R/B&B families) that a good recast wouldn't fix.

 

 

He served zero purpose and IA with what Sheilaforever wrote.  Carter with as little as he's been given feels better defined. I didnt like how he was a retcon for Donna who we saw in her teen years. She had no black baby that she gave up. I also hated that they had Eric adopt his grown ass. Being played by the terrible Texas Battle was the least of his problems. The writing surrounding him was just terrible and it was embarassing to watch

It's not an either/or situation.

 

Carter as a character isn't anymore well defined than Marcus & wouldn't even be on the show if it wasn't for Marcus.

 

The only difference between the two characters is that Carter is played by a marginally more talented actor in Lawrence Saint Victor & if shoddily written retconned sons (played by mediocre actors) are a problem for B&B audiences to accept then the entire Spencer family needs to be shown the door.

 

when the show is only 30 minutes with limited time, it almost is. We'll just have to agree to disagree bc I dont think the character of Marcus is worth investing in. Thankfully they brought Zende on and there's Carter still there on the sidelines

Zende is a boring character IMO…the actor is not very good either….

to be fair, he is stuck in a terrible story and for the most part everyone is boring. The actor isnt that great but the role is still relatively new and has potential. Unfortunately I see Bell screwing up like many others

If the actor isn't that great & the writing is terrible for the character why aren't fans suggesting Zende be killed off?