But it really hasn't been awhile.

See that just shows you how boring, sh*tty writing becomes a blur to fans, but we can remember the great stories from A to Z. Point by point. Beat by beat.

Maria's reigns was hot ass garbage. She needs to be flogged and stoned for the drivel she produced.

Edited December 31, 201410 yr by Nothin'ButAttitude

Preach!!

Like Jack's lecture to Adam about no more evil or whatever and Nick's banishing Sharon. NEITHER of them had an real issues with Phyllis' history - past or present when they were together with her.

That's Y&R's constant need to try to justify Giggly's crimes to keep her hypocritical ass on the show.

It's been the pattern since she was introduced.

Do horrible things to innocent women, pretend to be the *real* victimized party, act surprised when women react.

Cricket, Gina, Sasha, Diane, Mackenzie, Jill, Drucilla, Ashley, Lily, Sharon, Victoria, Nikki, Nina.

The only female character she hasn't turned on (fully) is Lauren.

Edited December 31, 201410 yr by DeeeDee

That's Y&R's constant need to try to justify Giggly's crimes to keep her hypocritical ass on the show.

It's been the pattern since she was introduced.

Do horrible things to an innocent women, pretend to be the *real* victimized party, act surprised when said women reacts.

Cricket, Gina, Sasha, Diane, Mackenzie, Jill, Drucilla, Ashley, Lily, Sharon, Victoria, Nikki, Nina.

The only female character she hasn't turned on (fully) is Lauren.

But has most of this been purely the decision of Bill, who fell in love with Phyllis enough to keep her, or mostly the other writers?

Edited December 31, 201410 yr by YRfan23

Possibly Bill's decision BUT he made sure that Phyllis was supposed to be supporting. Not lead or a heroine. And not everyone kissed Phyllis' ass or ever viewed her as a victim. None of this didn't start till the LML years.

Edited December 31, 201410 yr by Nothin'ButAttitude

Possibly Bill's decision BUT he made sure that Phyllis was supposed to be supporting. Not lead or a heroine. And not everyone kissed Phyllis' ass or ever viewed her as a victim. None of this didn't start till the LML years.

EXACTLY.

I don't necessarily care for Kelly, but I am so over women going bonkers over saggy faced Jack. First Mari Jo. Then Diane (somewhat). Then Patty. Now Kelly. Jack's crusty ol' peen ain't that good.

TPTB's not so subtle way of dropping hints of Kelly's descent into the dark side. I now expect her to be riding that bus to crazytown soon.

Yea, DD. After today's show, you're right. She's on the bus...

I wonder if Kelly drained the gas in Phyllis' car since she did know Phyllis was supposed to be with Jack at the Athletic Club to celebrate. Maybe that's why she was acting all strange when she saw Jack because she wasn't expecting to see him....if so then I now am all for Phyllis being out of gas.

So Phyllis accused her of doing it, but it still doesn't make sense. She would have had to cause the reason for Phyl not riding with Jack, which was Summers dress, right? Unless she saw Phyllis and Summer pick out their dresses, then switched them? But Summers dress was said to be "old", so that's not it. AND Kelly drained the battery in P's phone? WTF?

If Kelly did do something, we should have seen it. Or they better give us some flashbacks to explain it. Kelly survived, and apparently coped with, losing her child. But because Jack didn't choose her, she goes bonkers? Lol. They will prolly turn Kelly into a cartoon villan like they did Carmine.

I liked Nikki talking to Katherine. It seemed very genuine.

JH and MCE look good together, but I'm not feeling the chemistry yet. But JH is selling the story. He's good.

Are we supposed to care about the chick that Noah was with? Has their story even been told?

I don't necessarily care for Kelly, but I am so over women going bonkers over saggy faced Jack. First Mari Jo. Then Diane (somewhat). Then Patty. Now Kelly. Jack's crusty ol' peen ain't that good.

I like this.

Edited December 31, 201410 yr by GMac

Finally A Chris,and GT Phyllis interaction!......great exchange between those 2 today!

Am I the only one who spent the first few minutes of today's episode thinking Kevin was Harding's NYE date? The writing, the banter, the chemistry . . . they'd make a cute couple.

I swear that's what II thought!

If Y&R had an ounce of creative honesty and a good set of balls, they'd go there.

At least Kevin would finally be in a pairing with chemistry. Not that it would erase his awfulness but it would at least be more tolerable.

Am I the only one who spent the first few minutes of today's episode thinking Kevin was Harding's NYE date? The writing, the banter, the chemistry . . . they'd make a cute couple.

I agree! Forget about Harding kissing uptight crabby Abby. Harding and Kevin feels much more right especially since Kevin has no hot vibes with women. And the writing, the banter, and the chemistry in the scenes seemed evident.

I liked Harding kissing crabby Abby! She could do with a guy that doesn't take her bullshit. Unfortunately I think I read somewhere that he's working on another show. Stich and Victoria were hot today too.

JH and MCE look good together, but I'm not feeling the chemistry yet

Does MCE ever have chemisty with anybody? She wasn't bad with Dylan but that's the only character I've ever seen her click with even a little bit. Smiling and giggling is not acting not matter how cute you are or think yourself to be.

i'm glad to see Neil's getting his sight back little by little. You'd think he'd mention that to his wife.

i'm glad to see Neil's getting his sight back little by little. You'd think he'd mention that to his wife.

Yes, this makes no sense unless he suspects her of something and wants to catch her. Otherwise, it feels like an implausible soap contrivance.