Shemar!!

 

Kay seems to be a strange situation, she only "retired" after Brad fired her at B&B. I don't believe she graciously retired from the industry, but was forced out.

What? What do you even base this "belief" on?

No idea if anything went down between them

But you just said she was forced out.

I know Kay didn't willingly retire, but Bradley didn't renew her contract option at B&B. No idea if anything went down between them, but I think it was mutual and Brad thinking she was expendable as he had Michael Minnis, who was technically more so his Co-HW than Alden was (she had more of an editing role).

No offense but this sounds like nothing more than wild speculation.

The only thing I ever remember being mentioned here about Kay Alden was that she was involved in some kind of propeller accident (!!!) and thus retired? Anyone can confirm this?

I recognize that CBS and Sony wanted the show to move in a different direction.

Different direction?

They wanted the show utterly decimated. And they got it (only to then desperately try to go back).

Edited August 30, 201411 yr by YRBB

Forced out as in Brad didn't renew her contract or ask her back to the show. If Brad still wanted her there, she would still be there. Kay is still healthy and willing to work, but no one wants her.

Also, if you reference Kay's comment to fellow ex Y&R writer Linda Freiwald-Schreiber in September of last year on her Facebook page, she clearly mentions being unemployed. So, please take that "wild speculation" elsewhere.

Her Facebook profile, she's a healthy/active woman: https://www.facebook.com/kay.aldennelson?fref=ts

So, please take that "wild speculation" elsewhere.

Don't give me that BS!

You made contradictory statements (she was fired/it was mutual) and speculated on the reasons she was "forced" out ("I think she was expendable") without a lick of explanation or evidence initially.

So, please, take your wild speculation elsewhere if you don't like having your random claims justifiably questioned.

Edited August 30, 201411 yr by YRBB

Don't give me that BS!

You made contradictory statements and speculated on the reasons she was "forced" out without a lick of explanation or evidence initially.

So, please, take your wild speculation elsewhere if you don't like having your random claims justifiably questioned.

Upset I provided evidence, I see. Typical. I want to know how "forced out" contradicts not knowing the full extent of her relationship with Bradley Bell. No one fully knows why he didn't renew her contract (but Alden and Bell themselves), but he did and she's no longer writing for his show. Kay seems to have moved on and handled the whole thing well, but again, she didn't leave on her own accord, which was my point.

Where's your evidence of her supposed accident that forced her into retirement? OK, then.

Edited August 30, 201411 yr by BetterForgotten

Something about the way Kay immediately mentions not being at B&B and being "among the ranks of the unemployed" right off with a friend she is reconnecting with on facebook makes me think their may be some hard/bitter feelings. Maybe it's just me.

Upset I provided evidence, I see. Typical.

LOL! Upset? Over you? No.

Besides, I asked for it. If you weren't too busy defending your ego and speculating, you would have posted what you had and been done with it. It's not my fault you were ranting on and on, saying one thing in one post and another in the next.

not knowing the full extent of her relationship with Bradley Bell.

And that's exactly where you speculated... but you don't see that, do you?

Where's your evidence of her supposed accident that forced her into retirement?

The difference is that 1) I didn't state it as fact, 2 ) I asked for anyone remembering better to confirm/deny it, 3) I didn't speculate. See how that works, boo boo?

OK, then.

Bye!

Edited August 30, 201411 yr by YRBB

Something about the way Kay immediately mentions not being at B&B and being "among the ranks of the unemployed" right off with a friend she is reconnecting with on facebook makes me think their may be some hard/bitter feelings. Maybe it's just me.

It might not be just you. For years, rumors suggested how Kay Alden did not get along with Bradley or with Bill Bell Jr. She also (allegedly) clashed with Ed Scott when he was EP at Y&R, although I think most of us knew that already. That is why it floored me when she ended up working again with Bradley and Ed at B&B after her consulting gig at ABCD went nowhere. Surely, I thought, DAYS could have used her help? In fact, they still could.

Edited August 30, 201411 yr by Khan

LOL! Upset? Over you? No.

Sure.

Besides, I asked for it. If you weren't to busy defending your ego and speculating, you would have posted what you had and been done with it. It's not my fault you were ranting on and on, saying one thing in one post and another in the next.

Not my fault you didn't understand what I posted. Again, the whole point was Alden not willingly leaving B&B, which was confirmed by her "unemployment" comment.

This topic has been discussed before on this board, not my fault you may have missed it. I only brought in the evidence after your accusatory "wild speculation" comment. Incredibly ironic you're talking about "defending ego" here.

And that's exactly where you speculated... but you don't see that, do you?

And it was my opinion on the whole matter. This is a public message board where we're allowed to speculate on happenings, right? Brad didn't renew her contract, thus fired her, that's why she's "unemployed." Also, no one else has hired the woman since. Hence, she's been "forced out" of the industry. What's so hard to see here? Kay, as evident by her Facebook page, still seems to have many friends at B&B, and has seemed to moved on, she seems to be enjoying her post-soap writing life, hence why I said it it may have been mutual in the end for her.

The difference is that 1) I didn't state it as fact, 2 ) I asked for anyone remembering better to confirm/deny it, 3) I didn't speculate. See how that works, boo boo?

Maybe if If you weren't too busy defending your ego, you wouldn't have brought up some irrelevant hearsay.

Bye!

Adios!

Edited August 30, 201411 yr by BetterForgotten

Sure.

Yep, exactly. Try again.

Not my fault you didn't understand what I posted. Again, the whole point was Alden not willingly leaving B&B, which was confirmed by her "unemployment" comment.

I understood perfectly well. You just didn't like being questioned.

This topic has been discussed before on this board, not my fault you may have missed it. I only bought in the evidence after your accusatory "wild speculation" comment. Incredibly ironic you're talking about "defending ego." here.

Which I asked you not to take offense to but you couldn't resist.

Incredibly ironic you're talking about "defending ego." here.

Thank you for your attempt at wittiness but I am merely someone who refuses to let people be insubstantially rude.

Maybe if If you weren't to busy defending your ego, you wouldn't have brought up some irrelevant hearsay.

Well, unlike you, I have no problem taking a second look and confirming what I've said. Turns out--I was right. There was an accident but it much earlier than I remembered and not connected to her retirement. Which I stated from the very beginning. Are you ready for some cold, hard proof?

Edited August 30, 201411 yr by YRBB

Yep, exactly. Try again.

Again, sure.

I understood perfectly well. You just didn't like being questioned.

And again, this topic has been discussed before, so I didn't see the need to bring in old evidence from the beginning that some may have already seen.

Thank you for your attempt at wittiness but I am merely someone who refuses to let people be insubstantially rude.

Maybe you can follow your own advice then.

Well, unlike you, I have no problem taking a second look and confirming what I've said. Turns out--I was right. There was an accident but it much earlier than I remember and not connected to her retirement. Which I stated from the very beginning. Are you ready for some cold, hard proof?

This sidebar discussion was about Alden's exit from B&B. She may have had an accident, and I do hope she's fully recovered, but it has nothing to do with this topic/discussion.Maybe we'll debate her accident for some reason in another thread, but until then, not relevant for us to discuss here, so no proof needed from me.

Edited August 30, 201411 yr by BetterForgotten

I remember hearing somewhere Kay Alden was offered the HW position at All My Children

It might not be just you. For years, rumors suggested how Kay Alden did not get along with Bradley or with Bill Bell Jr. She also (allegedly) clashed with Ed Scott when he was EP at Y&R, although I think most of us knew that already. That is why it floored me when she ended up working again with Bradley and Ed at B&B after her consulting gig at ABCD went nowhere. Surely, I thought, DAYS could have used her help? In fact, they still could.

Y&R could use her help too but, no doubt that Days could, as you suggested. Hhmmm, this leads me to believe that maybe she has burned her bridges in the daytime industry. Or, for at least anything Bell, CBS, or Sony related.

Edited August 30, 201411 yr by ajsp35801

Again, sure.

The standard answer when you can't refute someone's point.

So predictable.

And again, this topic has been discussed before, so I didn't see the need to bring in old evidence from the beginning that some may have already seen.

Too bad. I don't read every single last post. TWO posters asked you to explain/expand and you immediately went on the defense.

Maybe you can follow your own advice then.

Oh, hunni, I'm never nice to anyone who's rude, especially for no reason.

This sidebar discussion was about Alden's exit from B&B. She may have had an accident, and I do hope she's fully recovered, but it has nothing to do with this topic/discussion.Maybe we'll debate her accident for some reason in another thread, but until then, not relevant for us to discuss here, so no proof needed from me.

HA! Didn't think so.

I guess "evidence" is important as long as you're the one to procure it?

I remember hearing somewhere Kay Alden was offered the HW position at All My Children

It would be interesting to see (in a hypothetical world) how she would have done with such a different soap from Y&R.

Let's get rid of egotistical unpleasantness and go back OT.

The standard answer when you can't refute someone's point.

So predictable.

Something you know all about clearly.

Too bad. I don't read every single last post. TWO posters asked you to explain/expand and you immediately went on the defense.

Actually, I didn't with Khan, he at least has a level of class to his responses and didn't accuse anyone of "wild speculation."

HA! Didn't think so.

I guess "evidence" is important as long as you're the one to procure it?

It's only relevant when we're talking about a relevant topic. Her accident is not relevant to why she's no longer at B&B. But go ahead and try to make it seem that way, if that makes you happy and helps to defend your ego.

Edited August 30, 201411 yr by BetterForgotten