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June 30 - July 4, 2014: Y&R Continues to Collapse; New Lows in W18-49 Viewers and W18-34 Rating

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ITA. Without the three o them eating the series, more characters are being developed [Hello, Devon], Killer Miller isn't smirking, Snarky Muhney isn't oozing around the show, and honestly, Phyllis needed a rest. If they could just drop Heinle for an actress with personality and a true idea of who Victoria Newman is. Drop the baby rabies with the character Victoria, and send her back to work at Newman, by her daddy's side. If Villy are going to work,Victoria needs to be Victoria again, and Jean P hasn't done that. That is not totally her fault, as no writer has known how to right the character for years. The show doesn't need those actors back, it doesn't need new characters, it needs a writer that knows these characters and writes them correctly.

I don't even mind Dylan being Paul and Nikki's son[although SB isn't the actor I'd have used].Between Paul's sense of humor, and Nikki's flair for the dramatic, an actor with more personality[like Sean Carrigan] would've been my choice. CM's Kelly is also not the character she was when CW played her. I would've cast her as one of Jack's former flames, maybe Mari Jo Mason.

Nick and Sharon work, along with Mariah. Tyler needs a better storyline. Why not have Cane and Lily fight and Lily turn to Tyler because Cane is not supporting her hatred of Hillary. Abby torn between fighting for Tyler, and her friendship with Devon turning into a ONS that leads to more. Neil realizing his relationship with Hillary has more to do with her Daddy issues than love. That leads Neil into a sizzling story where Ashley is back in his orbit[leading to Olivia's return]. Lose Noah and Courtney and bring them back for special occasions. Kick Ian Ward into a power role butting heads with Victor and Nikki. Allow Nikki and Jill to share scenes in which Nikki tells her about Ian so that Jill and Colin help her con Ian into a corner. Turn Nikki and Jill's past rivalry into a friendship based on their mutual love of Katherine.

Just some ideas I would rather see than the crap we're currently watching.

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For Jean P even if y and r let's her go. She will go back to GH as she's very close to Ron. I think it would be a mistake again to not try her as a co head wrIter of DAYS.

What crack are you smoking these days? Seriously. Why on earth should she be rewarded with DAYS after tanking Y&R? DAYS has attained stability under Tomlin/Whitesell/Broderick. It isn't perfect, but it's stable and the cast seems happy and much of the viewers seem happy as well.

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All will be right with world when BM, MS and MM return to Y&R. Isn't it clear that JFP had some sort of agenda dumping three of the biggest stars/characters within six months? C'mon you don't get rid of that many popular actors in KEY roles in such a short period of time. This hasn't been just a week or two slide - it's been happening for months.

I agree with you that those actors leaving has had an effect on the ratings on somewhat but this regime should be able write around that.
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Toups, are the Y&R ratings really so bad you think someone could be out? I do agree the ratings are in the dumps, but I just don't see it. We all know how Jill is. There is also that feeling that it will only get worse. I feel if they do replace the current terrrible team we'll simply get a new group of hacks and so on and so forth until Y&R finally loses that #1 spot. These execs don't understand this show at all.

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Jean could bring the added romance to

Days it's more her show than y and r. Romance galore is what she does best.

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Toups, are the Y&R ratings really so bad you think someone could be out? I do agree the ratings are in the dumps, but I just don't see it.

If the ratings fall were in Households or viewers, maybe not. But the huge falls are in the younger demos, so I do think there will be head writing changes. And this is not a one week or two week dip, this collapse has been happening since April.
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If the ratings fall were in Households or viewers, maybe not. But the huge falls are in the younger demos, so I do think there will be head writing changes. And this is not a one week or two week dip, this collapse has been happening since April.

I cannot wait for them to be fired. Please soap gods, have Bob Guza join Y&R. Dream come true! <3

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The thing is JFP never gets fired. In fact in her 2 years at y and r she hit 6 years highs in the winter and her ratings have been steady until this spring. She's so close to Steve Kent. I remember in 1998 she hit all time lows at OLTL and people said she would be axed after a year then she did her dead baby story got great ratings and held them through 2000 and was awarded GH where she stayed for 11 years. It's hard firing Jill.

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Jean could bring the added romance to

Days it's more her show than y and r. Romance galore is what she does best.

And if that's what she does best then where the hell is it on Y&R? And if it's so great, why are the ratings in the toilet? Face it, you just don't know what you're talking about.

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Miller was absent during key moments in Billy's life (Delia's illness, Bricky's kidnapping), but TPTB should give him anything he wants to retain him even though his excessive outs interrupt SLs? Now, if they scale back on Billy's airtime, fine, but we don't know that his outs won't coincide with a major story. Should YR work around his schedule? I [!@#$%^&*] hope not.

Stafford QUIT when JFP contained her, so should they have brought her back and allow Phyllis to devour the show whole? Phyllis was in everyone's SL and every character's face for no other reason than MAB allowed Stafford to dictate SLs. Don't take my word, just look at GH. If nothing else Stafford is smart enough to know how dumb FrankenRon are to believe there is value in bringing her to GH. There isn't!

Muhney - should someone who assaulted a co-worker be allowed back because 4 hacks have no talent to write a well rounded show with an ensemble cast? Should they take extra measures to make certain MM and Hunter are not on the set on the same day? MM is not worth that trouble at all! No one is. Besides, and I cannot stress this enough. Why would anyone (women especially) champion the return of this man? Folks were on Twitter the other day ranting because OpieBilly is having sex with his rapist Chelsea, yet these same folks put money together to fly a plane pleading for MM's return? Dumb asses!

YR was successful long before Miller, Stafford and MM, and can be again with a regime that understand the show and it's characters. The WRONG writing team is helming YR, and it is killing the show!

Those actors leaving still had an effect on the show. Should they bring MM back? Of course not but BM shouldn't have been let go at least not so close to another major actor leaving let alone after already losing MS a several months earlier. Could the show have maintained good writings despite losing those 3? Sure if the show was already well-written but it was not and therefore they should have at the very least kept BM and tried harder to woo MS back. At least Ashley is returning for good.

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If the ratings fall were in Households or viewers, maybe not. But the huge falls are in the younger demos, so I do think there will be head writing changes. And this is not a one week or two week dip, this collapse has been happening since April.

Right as the warmer weather started up. I and many others had said that Y&R was enjoying inflated ratings due to the winter storms and that once spring time hit, we will really see how the viewers feel about the drastic cast changes and writing that has happened over the past year.

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I cannot wait for them to be fired. Please soap gods, have Bob Guza join Y&R. Dream come true! <3

nbe.jpgI can't with this, do you want the show cancelled, wow seriously

And if that's what she does best then where the hell is it on Y&R? And if it's so great, why are the ratings in the toilet? Face it, you just don't know what you're talking about.

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She sure as heck didn't bring any romance on ATWT either

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If the ratings fall were in Households or viewers, maybe not. But the huge falls are in the younger demos, so I do think there will be head writing changes. And this is not a one week or two week dip, this collapse has been happening since April.

Collapse is so melodramatic. It's Tuesday. I'll wait for the announcement.

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The thing is JFP never gets fired. In fact in her 2 years at y and r she hit 6 years highs in the winter and her ratings have been steady until this spring. She's so close to Steve Kent. I remember in 1998 she hit all time lows at OLTL and people said she would be axed after a year then she did her dead baby story got great ratings and held them through 2000 and was awarded GH where she stayed for 11 years. It's hard firing Jill.

She was fired 2 1/2 years ago from GH. But with you facts do not matter. Carry on.

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