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Empire: Discussion Thread

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There's definitely many issues with pacing, yes, but personally, I was stunned they did Lucious and Cookie hooking up so quickly. I understand he's the [only] one for her, but his behind let her rot in prison for over a decade while he was making it and hitting it all over town. Typically, a show will keep that type of tension going for as long as possible - the hurt along with the deep attraction. I would have had them heavily making out, starting to disrobe, Anika heading home on the last episode of Season One.

It'll be interesting to see what they do with Season 2. They won't have the stresses attached that they may have had with this season so I expect to see a difference with pacing.

IA. They really could have and should have played up the sexual tension before caving so soon

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I hope they will to, but I didn't feel Hakeem was all that supportive. It's clear Jamal is the one who works the best in the mediator role. I think having Hakeem so close to his father is ruining his characterization. He's becoming unlikable to me to the point where I really just don't want to see his face or his little punk outfits.

What?? You sure we're watching the same show. Hakeem is more supportive of Jamal because it was out in the opening that Jamal is gay. Jamal seem more supportive of Andre situation because in this episode Jamal remember things that Hakeem was to little to understand. they even said that. Maybe You don't like Hakeem because you see his character as coonery. I don't know.

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What?? You sure we're watching the same show. Hakeem is more supportive of Jamal because it was out in the opening that Jamal is gay. Jamal seem more supportive of Andre situation because in this episode Jamal remember things that Hakeem was to little to understand. they even said that. Maybe You don't like Hakeem because you see his character as coonery. I don't know.

You are right, perhaps the problem is that Hakem is too young to be genuinely supportive. He has no frame of reference and is ignorant. I think my problem with him stems from the fact that he is a justification for all of Luscious' foolery. He's clearly the favored son, and I feel Hakeem justifies so many of his actions through Luscious molding and enabling of his youngest ridiculousness and idiocy on so many occasions, and it's bothersome. Hakeem doesn't have any of the issues, harships or problems that Andre and Jamal have to deal with on a pretty much daily basis, and yet he still ends up acting like the most entitled, pompous, fool of them all. He has low empathy, and doesn't seem to grasp or understand hardships and problems, which is what I saw in the elevator scene. Jamal was the one who really understood and comforted Andre and brought them together, while Hakeem didn't even seem to care what was happening till the end.

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In next week's preview on YouTube, Raven Symone's character returns with a new character that takes the Lyon family hostage. The new character points a loaded gun at Cookie's head. Supposedly, a bombshell is dropped. Just putting two and two together, but it looks like it is revealed that Jamal is not Lola's father. Anyone think the Lucious might be the father of Lola?

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In next week's preview on YouTube, Raven Symone's character returns with a new character that takes the Lyon family hostage. The new character points a loaded gun at Cookie's head. Supposedly, a bombshell is dropped. Just putting two and two together, but it looks like it is revealed that Jamal is not Lola's father. Anyone think the Lucious might be the father of Lola?

I think it's possible.

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In next week's preview on YouTube, Raven Symone's character returns with a new character that takes the Lyon family hostage. The new character points a loaded gun at Cookie's head. Supposedly, a bombshell is dropped. Just putting two and two together, but it looks like it is revealed that Jamal is not Lola's father. Anyone think the Lucious might be the father of Lola?

Spoiler tag pretty please...

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So now we're just posting spoilers point blank to ruin other people's enjoyment of the show? How rude....

i do wonder if they're gonna resolve the murder from earlier in the season and/or Cookie's hit by the end of this amazing first season. Seems like a lot to ask. I think they should draw it out into 2nd but given how fast paced the shows have been I won't be surprised if these issues are dealt with quickly.

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LOL She's my spirit animal

Which Character From “Empire” Are You?
  1. You got: Cookie
    Bad bitch contest, you’re in the first place. You don’t have time for people’s games. You’re a master of shade, which usually leaves your opponents bewildered, but if they try to come for you — watch out, baby.
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Did you know that Joseline from Love and Hip Hop ATL was originally cast as Cookie on Empire? She filmed several scenes before getting cut for being a bit too ratchet. She wouldnt follow the script and made up her own lines. She of course was replaced by Taraji and the rest is history. With that said, here is some gifs from her lost episodes

 

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