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Y&R: The characterization of Victor Newman

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YRBB nails it.


Bill Bell knew how to write Victor, Kay Alden Knew how to write Victor....the others really screwed the character up by having a once complexed anti-hero become a grumpy old bully.....(Just as Brad Bell did with Stephanie in later B&B years)

As much as we want to blame Braeden for letting the writers do all this damage to the character, I don't think it's ever been entirely his fault. I'm over whether or not he likes having the last word in his script of whatever, but I feel like from what he has said in interviews it's really hard to get the current writers to stay true to characterization, especially if he's at the point where he only wants to keep his job and is too "lazy" to make demands on where to take Victor....

It's easy to assume Braeden calls the shots. I'm sure he does have some say, like over certain scenes, but it's been clear that he has had little to do with any story in recent years. I know there was talk that he wanted Victor/Sharon, to seem virile, but I don't think he would really want to go there with Sharon. And the huge fallout with Braeden and Sharon Case, which I sense still hasn't gone away, likely exacerbated this.

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YRBB nails it.

It's easy to assume Braeden calls the shots. I'm sure he does have some say, like over certain scenes, but it's been clear that he has had little to do with any story in recent years. I know there was talk that he wanted Victor/Sharon, to seem virile, but I don't think he would really want to go there with Sharon. And the huge fallout with Braeden and Sharon Case, which I sense still hasn't gone away, likely exacerbated this.

The whole Victor/Sharon thing was icky. They build up this surrogate father daughter thing with them for almost 20 years and then they become involved... but I guess that storyline was kind of the end of the line of MAB..

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Wrong thread!

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It seems to me soap writers these days find character development boring. The biggest mistake they ever made with soaps was making them story driven instead of character driven. In terms of Victor it feels like they just went back to 80/81 era Victor and exaggerated those aspects, completely ignoring his character development for the past 30 years.

Same thing happened with Brooke on B&B. Bell characters are hard to write sometimes because he seemed to love the psychology of the character, none of his mainstay characters can be reduced to a couple of lines to describe who they truly are. Even when I heard actors from his shows describe their characters it wouldn't fully encompass the character as a whole.

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