I was pretty sure her Franco/Jason twin manipulation had begun before that though, no?

Heather didn't come back until Sam visited her in Ferncliff and got snubbed over the letter. From that moment on she hated her and was determined to make her pay, not bc of Franco. The source of her animosity and quest for revenge in terms of Sam always originated from Sam not delivering that letter to Steven Lars. That's why she went forward with making Sam think she was pregnant with her rapist's child and then took the baby away from her. She felt Sam tried to keep her from her child, so she kept her from hers; at least that was her rationale

Edited November 10, 201312 yr by Cheap21

Pushing up on William Shatner one minute and throwing shade at John Stamos the next.

Bitches be crazy.

Truer Words.

I think they both look ridiculous. Ron clearly has no social skills and needs to get out of conversations that don't involve him and John Stamos needs to stop harping over a cameo from 10 months ago. If he didn't like what they wanted him for (and the truth is more in between than what both parties say although JS is way closer to the truth), then turn it down and move on. They both look stupid.

I wasn't even aware John Stamos was some big draw or worth all this fighting over.

Who is? I mean who is some big draw? He's one of the more successful former GH stars IMHO. And he is still hot.

To be fair, Stamos was responding to a fan and RC decided to jump in.

Exactly. Ron should have just ignored it. And I do think Ron is detached from reality. Stamos may be as well. But Ron most certainly is.

I believe John Stamos.

I believe John Stamos.

Seriously. Why would he lie? I don't think it's all that important to him. He was answering a question posed to him by a fan. I just don't think he really cared that much to make [!@#$%^&*] up.

How many viewers know who Blackie is though? Full House is what made Stamos a name. I'm not sure why Ron is still harping on this!

oh Nancy

Nancy Lee Grahn ‏@NancyLeeGrahn3m

Ru following @carlivatiron GH head writer? He is mean, lean, smart and FUNNY as [!@#$%^&*]. He's one of us. Do it!

You know, even when some people are genuinely acting a fool - like Jack Wagner, who despite some very valid complaints about this spring's Frisco storyline, was not exactly putting in a brilliant performance himself at the time either, and seemed tone-deaf in the press to how it made Kristina feel - that doesn't mean that you, as the head writer on a major television program, have to get in there and act a fool too. (Wagner also supposedly told RC and the writers up front that the material was "pedestrian" or facile or something, and while it may be a dick thing to say and Jack Wagner may be a major dick all around, I can't really disagree re: that story.) Sometimes the best thing to do with obnoxious people is sit back and let them rage and bury themselves, instead of burying yourself in the process.

John Stamos's story, OTOH, checks out and he's been sticking to it since much earlier this year. He explained this in-depth in another recent article and I happen to believe it. Ron just doesn't like being questioned or told no.

I can see where JS comes from. He said on Jeff Probst show he wanted to revisit Blackie see where has been for 30 years. Wants a real story not playing drums for RS

Edited November 10, 201312 yr by John

you aren't dreaming and as always Carlivati's cheerleaders are saying that Stamos is bitter and all kinds of BS

Bitter about what? LMAO! Go John!

Nancy can STFU too!

Stamos was on the Jeff Probst show last March and was asked about GH. He said he would go back if GH wrote him an arc and he could revisit who Blackie was after 3 decades in prison.

RC/FV did say somewhere the plan for Blackie was that he was married to Jackie templeton but Demi Moore turned down the offer to return

as far as Stamos has said the GH offer was for Blackie to return for the NB and play Drums with Rick Springfield

Sad thing is, they could have done more with him even if Demi turned down GH

Seems to me Gh was more about getting the stars back and not about giving them anything to do once they got there

Edited November 10, 201312 yr by John

Jillian Bowe

38 seconds ago ·

• Uncle Jesse Parrish... Tsk Tsk..

Jillian Bowe

38 seconds ago ·

• Uncle Jesse Parrish... Tsk Tsk..

she has no room to talk

http://youtu.be/qH6kIo4DxwA

Heather didn't come back until Sam visited her in Ferncliff and got snubbed over the letter. From that moment on she hated her and was determined to make her pay, not bc of Franco. The source of her animosity and quest for revenge in terms of Sam always originated from Sam not delivering that letter to Steven Lars. That's why she went forward with making Sam think she was pregnant with her rapist's child and then took the baby away from her. She felt Sam tried to keep her from her child, so she kept her from hers; at least that was her rationale

You have the events backwards. Heather fed Sam the lies about Franco & Jason being twins BEFORE Sam left refusing to take the letter to StevenLars pissed off Heather so much.

That's the problem using the letter as the reason Heather lied. It's not and never was. It came after.

oh Nancy

Nancy Lee Grahn ‏@NancyLeeGrahn3m

Ru following @carlivatiron GH head writer? He is mean, lean, smart and FUNNY as [!@#$%^&*]. He's one of us. Do it!

She'll continue ass kissing him and if he ever gets ousted bash him right after.

Ron & Frank will helm GH til ABC cancels it