AMC

Add: Erica, Bianca, Kendall... they need to be there in some capacity especially Kendall once Miranda's paternity is revealed. If anyone could understand what Miranda will be feeling, it would be Kendall.

Lose: Human trafficking story, not gotten rid of AJ/Miranda but lessen their air time a bit.. and not have it pre-written

Rework: Instead of Branwell hall, i would have had Mrytle's boarding house be revived with Kelly Cole running it instead of Branwell Hall. I would have reworked Celia as a college student renting a room at the boarding house as an orphan.. and had gotten a tip that her mother had once lived in Pine Valley a long time ago and admitting to Kelly Cole that she also had a guardian she never met either that would send money to the boarding schools she used to attend. She has nightmares to memories of her young child-hood... and I would have had her be Billy Clyde Tuggle's grand daughter and Emily Ann's grand daughter. Emily Ann got out of the mental hospital and ended up in an abusive marriage.. when her husband tries to kill their daughter, she kills him in self-defense which young Celia witnesses but Emily Ann becomes crazy.. Billy Clyde Tuggle then 'kidnaps' his grand daughter, bent on revenge against Chuck/Donna for keeping Emily Ann away from him so he would return the favor.. and hides her in boarding schools. However, feeling guilt for doing this.. he keeps himself hidden as a guardian.

OLTL:

Lose: Tattoo story, Todd and Victor.

Add: More visits from past characters (i.e. Jessica, Tina, Cord, Roxy, etc). They don't have to stay long term.. but just visit or mention their whereabouts.. maintain continuity.

Having characters rotate in and out for visits or only mentions tells me it is sloppy writing with no consistency and no continuity or stability for the shows. A show demands continuity with focus. At the end of the day, AMC and OLTL might be shows that thrive on the 4 or 5 day a week, 30 to 60 minutes a day type of shows that fare better with more regularity and continuity. The serial drama "business model" that PP is attempting to persuade the fans to buy into and be a selling point, may die a natural death and/or collapse and fail naturally. To take a Daytime Soap from the 5 day a week business model and then go all the way down to just a 1 hour serial drama may or may not be right formula for AMC and OLTL. If AMC and OLTL were already a serial drama with 1 hour episodes originally or a recurring mini-series business model, PP changes could be more tolerable and acceptable for fans???

Is PP in over their heads? Is the PP Spin Cycle machine in full effect? Is PP on the verge of losing the trust and faith of the fans of AMC and OLTL with all these changes and the dishonesty in not being able to fulfill their original campaign objectives and agenda to the viewing public maybe perhaps finding out after the fact the bottom line reality of budgets??? PP better be prepared for an onslaught of lawyers/agents/managers when it comes time for casts of both AMC and OLTL to renegotiate contracts for a second signing coming up since most signed for 1 year deals only. I hope both casts will get everything they can out of PP in signing for a second contract. Up the ante PP. The casts deserve a lot better than what they are getting.

AMC

Add: Erica, Bianca, Kendall... they need to be there in some capacity especially Kendall once Miranda's paternity is revealed. If anyone could understand what Miranda will be feeling, it would be Kendall.

Lose: Human trafficking story, not gotten rid of AJ/Miranda but lessen their air time a bit.. and not have it pre-written

Rework: Instead of Branwell hall, i would have had Mrytle's boarding house be revived with Kelly Cole running it instead of Branwell Hall. I would have reworked Celia as a college student renting a room at the boarding house as an orphan.. and had gotten a tip that her mother had once lived in Pine Valley a long time ago and admitting to Kelly Cole that she also had a guardian she never met either that would send money to the boarding schools she used to attend. She has nightmares to memories of her young child-hood... and I would have had her be Billy Clyde Tuggle's grand daughter and Emily Ann's grand daughter. Emily Ann got out of the mental hospital and ended up in an abusive marriage.. when her husband tries to kill their daughter, she kills him in self-defense which young Celia witnesses but Emily Ann becomes crazy.. Billy Clyde Tuggle then 'kidnaps' his grand daughter, bent on revenge against Chuck/Donna for keeping Emily Ann away from him so he would return the favor.. and hides her in boarding schools. However, feeling guilt for doing this.. he keeps himself hidden as a guardian.

OLTL:

Lose: Tattoo story, Todd and Victor.

Add: More visits from past characters (i.e. Jessica, Tina, Cord, Roxy, etc). They don't have to stay long term.. but just visit or mention their whereabouts.. maintain continuity.

Having characters rotate in and out for visits or only mentions tells me it is sloppy writing with no consistency and no continuity or stability for the shows. A show demands continuity with focus. At the end of the day, AMC and OLTL might be shows that thrive on the 4 or 5 day a week, 30 to 60 minutes a day type of shows that fare better with more regularity and continuity. The serial drama "business model" that PP is attempting to persuade the fans to buy into and be a selling point, may die a natural death and/or collapse and fail naturally. To take a Daytime Soap from the 5 day a week business model and then go all the way down to just a 1 hour serial drama may or may not be right formula for AMC and OLTL. If AMC and OLTL were already a serial drama with 1 hour episodes originally or a recurring mini-series business model, PP changes could be more tolerable and acceptable for fans???

Is PP in over their heads? Is the PP Spin Cycle machine in full effect? Is PP on the verge of losing the trust and faith of the fans of AMC and OLTL with all these changes and the dishonesty in not being able to fulfill their original campaign objectives and agenda to the viewing public maybe perhaps finding out after the fact the bottom line reality of budgets??? PP better be prepared for an onslaught of lawyers/agents/managers when it comes time for casts of both AMC and OLTL to renegotiate contracts for a second signing coming up since most signed for 1 year deals only. I hope both casts will get everything they can out of PP in signing for a second contract. Up the ante PP. The casts deserve a lot better than what they are getting.

AMC

Add: Erica, Bianca, Kendall... they need to be there in some capacity especially Kendall once Miranda's paternity is revealed. If anyone could understand what Miranda will be feeling, it would be Kendall.

Lose: Human trafficking story, not gotten rid of AJ/Miranda but lessen their air time a bit.. and not have it pre-written

Rework: Instead of Branwell hall, i would have had Mrytle's boarding house be revived with Kelly Cole running it instead of Branwell Hall. I would have reworked Celia as a college student renting a room at the boarding house as an orphan.. and had gotten a tip that her mother had once lived in Pine Valley a long time ago and admitting to Kelly Cole that she also had a guardian she never met either that would send money to the boarding schools she used to attend. She has nightmares to memories of her young child-hood... and I would have had her be Billy Clyde Tuggle's grand daughter and Emily Ann's grand daughter. Emily Ann got out of the mental hospital and ended up in an abusive marriage.. when her husband tries to kill their daughter, she kills him in self-defense which young Celia witnesses but Emily Ann becomes crazy.. Billy Clyde Tuggle then 'kidnaps' his grand daughter, bent on revenge against Chuck/Donna for keeping Emily Ann away from him so he would return the favor.. and hides her in boarding schools. However, feeling guilt for doing this.. he keeps himself hidden as a guardian.

OLTL:

Lose: Tattoo story, Todd and Victor.

Add: More visits from past characters (i.e. Jessica, Tina, Cord, Roxy, etc). They don't have to stay long term.. but just visit or mention their whereabouts.. maintain continuity.

Having characters rotate in and out for visits or only mentions tells me it is sloppy writing with no consistency and no continuity or stability for the shows. A show demands continuity with focus. At the end of the day, AMC and OLTL might be shows that thrive on the 4 or 5 day a week, 30 to 60 minutes a day type of shows that fare better with more regularity and continuity. The serial drama "business model" that PP is attempting to persuade the fans to buy into and be a selling point, may die a natural death and/or collapse and fail naturally. To take a Daytime Soap from the 5 day a week business model and then go all the way down to just a 1 hour serial drama may or may not be right formula for AMC and OLTL. If AMC and OLTL were already a serial drama with 1 hour episodes originally or a recurring mini-series business model, PP changes could be more tolerable and acceptable for fans???

Is PP in over their heads? Is the PP Spin Cycle machine in full effect? Is PP on the verge of losing the trust and faith of the fans of AMC and OLTL with all these changes and the dishonesty in not being able to fulfill their original campaign objectives and agenda to the viewing public maybe perhaps finding out after the fact the bottom line reality of budgets??? PP better be prepared for an onslaught of lawyers/agents/managers when it comes time for casts of both AMC and OLTL to renegotiate contracts for a second signing coming up since most signed for 1 year deals only. I hope both casts will get everything they can out of PP in signing for a second contract. Up the ante PP. The casts deserve a lot better than what they are getting.

AMC

Add: For characters, Erica & Adam at least for a short-term arc with Brooke & Dimitri, Tad & Bianca long term. I'm still hoping Jane turns out to be a love interest for Bianca (maybe she's David's cousin Maggie with plastic surgery?). Tad needs to come back just as Dixie's kissing Dr Anders. It'd be nice if he brought Kathy back with him so we can finally see how she feels about both her parents.

For places, the Boutique, Miranda Center and Valley Inn.

Lose: For characters, Hunter, Heather and Zach. The first 2 just won't be needed long term, especially if AJ & Miranda finally realize they love each other. As for Zach, if he's not getting together with Lea, it opens the door for a Zzzendull reunion and I just can't go there again!

For places, Bramwell Hall. I'd like my gothic stories to revolve around a family home instead of a boarding school.

The door is wide open for a Kendall/Alicia Minshew return so Zach is going nowhere.

You are amazing.

Even though I'm a bit behind, some thoughts ...

AMC:

I'm not really having huge issues with AMC, just a lot of minor things.

-Give Jane a story.

-Ditch Hunter, get a better bad boy for Miranda/AJ than this guy. LOL. Seriously. How can anyone buy him as a bully?

-Add the Miranda Center and burn down Bramwell Hall. Celia can go cuckoo and burn it down (not saying to get rid of her though, I think she can work but it has to really start happening in "Season 2"). Evelyn should stay and they can find something for her to do. I still say we need a boarding house again. Evelyn could fill that role. I also agree we could use the Boutique back, all the women always running into each other is fun. What are they calling the restaurant? I want an established place back.

-David Canary please come for a visit! I want to see Stuart. And Marian.

-Stick to something with Anders

-Bianca needs to be on full time and with a story, I don't want to see any of this pop up crap again. Miranda was sooo isolated and it hurt her somewhat, IMHO, but not too badly. They either need to get a commitment from Alicia or address the Kendall issue and I'd be fine with a recast. I like her just fine but I feel that this soap has so many things 'up in the air' that need firm movement and addressing on.

- Erica's sort of needed. But I still have been enjoying the show without her. I think AMC actually benefited by not having Susan and having to restablish the show. It has done wonders. WONDERS.

OLTL:

-I agree about ditching the Tattoo mystery. Blah. Move on.

-Re-establish Kevin, Rachel and Marty as "new anchors" to help establish a new generation (not taking away from the vets in any way of course)

- Bring back RJ. I've always loved the character and think he is so necessary. And with RJ, they should pair him with Dorian. She needs to stay away from David.

-Give me actual story for Cutter/Natalie/Rama/Vimal

-Recast McBain and address it (and for selfish reasons I hope the new actor, if ever cast, would be popular enough where we never have to endure Easton again. Yes. I said it)

Erica is badly missing from AMC. OLTL has their matriarch with Erica Slezak but AMC is severely missing its Lead, Susan Lucci. Whether fans like it or not, Erica/Susan needs to be making appearances for legacy continuity sake. There is no way anyone can be dismissive of Susan/Erica when OLTL does have security in Erica Slezak.

There is no such thing as Erica Slezak.

Having characters rotate in and out for visits or only mentions tells me it is sloppy writing with no consistency and no continuity or stability for the shows. A show demands continuity with focus. At the end of the day, AMC and OLTL might be shows that thrive on the 4 or 5 day a week, 30 to 60 minutes a day type of shows that fare better with more regularity and continuity. The serial drama "business model" that PP is attempting to persuade the fans to buy into and be a selling point, may die a natural death and/or collapse and fail naturally. To take a Daytime Soap from the 5 day a week business model and then go all the way down to just a 1 hour serial drama may or may not be right formula for AMC and OLTL. If AMC and OLTL were already a serial drama with 1 hour episodes originally or a recurring mini-series business model, PP changes could be more tolerable and acceptable for fans???

Is PP in over their heads? Is the PP Spin Cycle machine in full effect? Is PP on the verge of losing the trust and faith of the fans of AMC and OLTL with all these changes and the dishonesty in not being able to fulfill their original campaign objectives and agenda to the viewing public maybe perhaps finding out after the fact the bottom line reality of budgets??? PP better be prepared for an onslaught of lawyers/agents/managers when it comes time for casts of both AMC and OLTL to renegotiate contracts for a second signing coming up since most signed for 1 year deals only. I hope both casts will get everything they can out of PP in signing for a second contract. Up the ante PP. The casts deserve a lot better than what they are getting.

I'm over this. Why is it so hard for you to comprehend that the 5 day a week business model is not feasible for PP/an online venue? Continuing serial drama IS soaps- it doesn't have to be a rigid 5 day schedule. Characters have been rotating in and out of soaps and visiting for years. That's how they've been able to last decades. I really believe based on these comments that you want the shows to fail because you dislike what they're doing with your couple & would write gleeful long I told you so speeches if they cancelled.

And because you clearly can't seem to hear any of our rational comments, I'll just say that I think Debbi & Darnell would find your comments very disappointing. They're very happy with PP & understand that conflict between them makes for good story.

Edited August 2, 201312 yr by greens_dupres

What does this post have to do with the thread topic?

Just making a point, that is all.

No, you're derailing the thread to rant about how much you personally need the shows to fail because the fictional characters of Angie and Jesse are having a hard time on their fictional soap opera.

You have many threads to do that in, Linda. This one is specifically not for that.

I'm over this. Why is it so hard for you to comprehend that the 5 day a week business model is not feasible for PP/an online venue? Continuing serial drama IS soaps- it doesn't have to be a rigid 5 day schedule. Characters have been rotating in and out of soaps and visiting for years. That's how they've been able to last decades. I really believe based on these comments that you want the shows to fail because you dislike what they're doing with your couple & would write gleeful long I told you so speeches if they cancelled.

And because you clearly can't seem to hear any of our rational comments, I'll just say that I think Debbi & Darnell would find your comments very disappointing. They're very happy with PP & understand that conflict between them makes for good story.

I did not bring up my favorite couple in my posting at all BTW.

If Soaps don't have to be rigid then why is Y&R, GH, B&B and DOOL still thriving on their respective networks?

I'm over this. Why is it so hard for you to comprehend that the 5 day a week business model is not feasible for PP/an online venue? Continuing serial drama IS soaps- it doesn't have to be a rigid 5 day schedule. Characters have been rotating in and out of soaps and visiting for years. That's how they've been able to last decades. I really believe based on these comments that you want the shows to fail because you dislike what they're doing with your couple & would write gleeful long I told you so speeches if they cancelled.

And because you clearly can't seem to hear any of our rational comments, I'll just say that I think Debbi & Darnell would find your comments very disappointing. They're very happy with PP & understand that conflict between them makes for good story.

I did not bring up my favorite couple in my posting at all BTW.

If Soaps don't have to be rigid then why is Y&R, GH, B&B and DOOL still thriving on their respective networks?

No, you're derailing the thread to rant about how much you personally need the shows to fail because the fictional characters of Angie and Jesse are having a hard time on their fictional soap opera.

You have many threads to do that in, Linda. This one is specifically not for that.

Yeah this was actually a really interesting thread where everyone was talking about what worked/didn't work story & character wise. Let's get back to that. I have another one.

I've really enjoyed watching Viki & Clint's relationship disintegrate. I don't need to see them back together for a long time so I hope they get some other good stuff before we begin the inevitable reunion story.

AMC:

+: Erica. There's a GLARING hole on the canvass. I mean, imagine the amounts of shade she'd throw to Brooke and 'Mitry.

-: Jesse Hubbard...that's only so that he can win an Emmy as Sarge on Y&R.

OLTL:

+: Jessica. Viki needs the daughter that takes after her. Also, I need my River (preferably with the acting talents and looks of Blake Berris)/Sarah (pull Liz Hendrickson from Y&R. She's wasted as Chloe.). More Dusky and Nikki as well.

-: Destiny as she currently is. The housewives want Shenell back and need someone with whom they can identify. Also, I'd cut my losses with David Vickeroshi.

Darnell Williams is a solid core legacy legend character on AMC. He is not going anywhere. Darnell was already on AMC before Debbi came along so he is solid.

Erica's sort of needed. But I still have been enjoying the show without her. I think AMC actually benefited by not having Susan and having to restablish the show. It has done wonders. WONDERS.

I agree with this. I look forward to seeing Erica again and I do miss the character but at the same time having Erica off the canvas has given the other characters a chance to breathe and grow.

AMC:

I want Jesse to die. Off screen. And never be mentioned again.

I did not bring up my favorite couple in my posting at all BTW.

If Soaps don't have to be rigid then why is Y&R, GH, B&B and DOOL still thriving on their respective networks?

I did not bring up my favorite couple in my posting at all BTW.

If Soaps don't have to be rigid then why is Y&R, GH, B&B and DOOL still thriving on their respective networks?

they are not thriving. They've all had major budget cuts, have had to can veteran stars and the viewership had declined in recent years. They are staying afloat but the business model isn't the slam dunk it once was

AMC:

I want Jesse to die. Off screen. And never be mentioned again.

+1. It would be great if season 2 opened up with Angie in bed with David talking about how she's grateful for him helping her getting over her tragic loss. That's all. Not even a direct explanation of what happened to Jessie

Edited August 2, 201312 yr by Cheap21

And then they get back to banging.